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Official leaderboards / hotlap rankings request

Discussion in 'ACC General Discussions' started by Max Veloce, Mar 15, 2018.

  1. Max Veloce

    Max Veloce Racer

    So I saw that supposedly we'll get "Official leaderboards (basically RSR inside the game)" system, which is great news.

    Hopefully it'll avoid the mistake of RSR (and I really liked RSR, it's been a great addition to AC), where they ended up allowing times set in any session or conditions and it became an arms race to see who could find the most favorable track conditions to do the best time, and drove many serious users away in the process...

    So, please make a fixed hotlap sesssion mode in game the same as AC with fixed weather / time of day / temps just for the leaderboards and ensure a level playing field with no silly arms race.

    And the main reason I'm making this post, can we please have a seperate "Wet Hotlap" mode with a seperate results table in the rankings, I know I'll use it and I'm sure many others will too


    thank you :)
     
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  3. kakusso

    kakusso Hardcore Simmer

    Please add the possibility to practice against ghost cars of other people in the rankings.
     
  4. Serge M

    Serge M Alien

    Not sure on this one. If this is a leaderboard and effectively a competition why should you see how someone else has done the time? Shouldn’t you work it out yourself?
     
  5. martcerv

    martcerv Alien

    This is something id like too, have leaderboard record laps be set in the exact same conditions for all. The other thing is they dont have to be optimal maybe an iteresting option could be to set conditions to match the real world qualy conditions from the last race at that track.

    Keeping records of peoples best race laps etc would also be nice but for the actual record laps fixed conditions are really needed. This was probably the biggest downfall with RSR and as AC added things like wind and laps were able to be set in any session it was really hard to get a true look at where you stand.
     
  6. kakusso

    kakusso Hardcore Simmer

    The idea is to improve your skills by practicing against better times. F1 series had that and allowed me to progress beyond what I thought was possible. It was difficult/impossible to follow the fastest times but loading progressively faster ghosts can take you there.
     
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  7. Serge M

    Serge M Alien

    If the idea is training then yes, but if the idea is competition then no
     
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  8. LeSunTzu

    LeSunTzu Alien

    R3E has it and the leaderboard is a real competition. IRL drivers and their team can watch what others are doing (braking points, turning points, etc). I cannot consistently drive with a ghost, so I use it for one or two laps max, but that is enough to understand what I miss. Even though in 95% cases, I just see myself losing time tenth by tenth in every corner, it helps for the 5% where I got it a bit wrong in a single corner, just like I would irl by watching another guy lapping.
     
  9. Akbalder

    Akbalder Rookie

    Could there be a separated leaderboard for players using the default car setup? (To see the driving skills without of the enginering skills)
     
  10. iannixxenakis

    iannixxenakis Hardcore Simmer

    Agree that a 'lap record' should be done in fixed conditions, I love RSR but do wish that Pro settings with correct shifter had priority over everything else.

    And also agree it would be nice to have filters (like RSR) for wet laps, and default setups etc.

    Not sure about ghost cars, that might make things a bit too easy and 'unrealistic'?
     
  11. Serge M

    Serge M Alien

    If the ghost car thing is an option possibly let the driver who sets the lap chose if to make it public or not
     
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  12. martcerv

    martcerv Alien

    I would never use a ghost car as its distracting as heck. Possibility to view replays would be better, hotlaps really shouldn't be any secret and viewing replays makes it easy to see if something fishy is going on.

    A basic speed trace comparison like in ptracker would also be cool along with an overview of the line used on a track map being able to compare but higher detail then what ptracler offers.

    Another cool option would be to have the option to set any lap as a reference delta. This can be done in real racing betweem team mates easily and possibly F1 with their gps tracking it would be possible to set any other cars or at least sector splits.

    Possibly full delta and ghost laps should be available to opt out of but also option to share a setup would be nice kind of like an ingame setup market.
     
  13. ShredatorFIN

    ShredatorFIN Alien

    Yep main thing I didn't like about RSR.. the conditions weren't same for everyone. Maybe have 2 series, free setup and default setup. Everything else static like air temp, tyre warmers, assists, rubbered track... always same, if you choose a Hotlap mode

    Don't think ghosts of others should be visible. They worked their lines and put the time in.... everyone should do their own work. Racing against own ghost yes, others no. Imo. Yes real drivers can see how others raced.. so go into YouTube and look at some good lap made in the game. Or go into MP server and see how others do their laps. But why allow leeching on other people's work by copying their lines, instead actually learning something yourself

    Having many categories like "wet hotlap" "no traction control" might be cool but then it would be less competition per category. Although, with just official GT3 cars and not 170+ cars there would be probably plenty of times in every category.
     
    Last edited: Mar 16, 2018
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  14. Johnnypenso

    Johnnypenso Simracer

    Ideally I'd like to see the implementation of a "Championship Mode" with a fixed set of conditions that quality for the inclusion in this mode. I'm talking about the usual stuff of track parameters, time of day and running the car via it's "real" setup in terms of transmission, ABS, TC etc. Beyond that, being able to sort via a wide variety of other parameters such as tire choice, track grip levels, , transmission options, driving aids etc. should be more than enough to keep everyone happy. Within this Championship Mode I'd like to see several different ranking categories for us to compete in such as:

    The Ultimate Leader:
    Highest Average Weighted Ranking (min. X combinations + weightings applied to your results based on how popular the combinations you choose are)

    Others:
    Highest Average Ranking Overall (min. X combinations)
    Most Combinations
    Most 1st's
    Most Top Tens
    Most Laps Overall

    ....etc.

    IMO highlighting a Championship Mode will likely encourage the most participation with that set of parameters but the inclusion of various overall leaderboards gives us all something to shoot for or measure against.
     

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