oversteer correction techniques wanted!

Dear Simracers,

I just started playing simracing and I have questions regarding oversteer. I hope some experienced people can answer my questions. I've been searching this forum for an hour and could not find the answer. If my question was answered in another post, please send me the thread. My main question is: What 'sensory' inputs do you use to detect it, i have a list:

1. Visual, you see the car is rotating more than your steering input (I find this hard, or this is too late. If this is the way, what should I look at)
2. Some ffb feeling in the wheel (are there any settings to make this feeling obvious if this is the way, what do you feel in this case)
3. Anticipation (just by driving many laps, you know when you're getting into trouble)
4. Can you hear something about tyre squeel?
5. Something else or a combination of 1-4?

My problem is that I detect it too late anc consequently end up pointing in the other direction. I have a G29 steering wheel..

Some other info: I have no problem correcting oversteer in a real life kart, so I understand what to do basically

Best regards,

Hans Rosenberg

 

In my humble opinion it’s not the initial keys of imminent oversteer that makes you correct a slide. It’s the second move you have to point your attention to. To catch the so called „tank slapper“, the moment the tires REGAIN grip. That’s the crucial part kicking most untrained people off.
Unfortunately I don’t know how to feel the degree of rotation needed to catch that through ffb. I think I just got used to it... to me there is no clue for that whatsoever through the wheel. Just try and error.
Hopefully I’m wrong with this, so I can learn something here.

 

Thanks Ace, indeed you are right, the moment that grip is regained is a big problem, but one I think I can train on, i notice getting better at that after a number of hours of driving. I intend to 'attack' the problem of oversteer in steps, the biggest struggle I have right now is that I simply become aware of oversteer too late, and then even the most catlike response is too late to prevent a 180 or more So I'm really curious how the pros detect it quickly enough.

 

Get a loose grip on your wheel, you know, the 3/9 grip, and concentrate on EVERYTHING you do!
The slightest of slip events should give you instant! information through your wheel. But much more reliable should be your visual feedback!
It takes time (months and even years!) to get yourself accustomed to these cues....
Don’t surrender, nor give up!
It’s worth putting all that time into it.
Enjoy.