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Physics differences AC/ACC

Discussion in 'ACC General Discussions' started by chargingcar, Feb 21, 2018.

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  1. William Levesque

    William Levesque Alien

    Still requires a fair amount of physical fitness. Joe is pretty damn slow too and that makes a difference.

    I'm not particularly fit, but I'm a young guy and definitely not overweight (135-140lbs) and after a day of Time Attack, lets say 1-2hrs of track time in 10-20min sessions I'm pretty damn sore. In a stock Miata on coilovers, which does pull a fair amount of Gs. Granted I dont have P/S nor harnesses (do have a bucket seat tho) but still. It's deceivingly rough, especially when it's hot. Doing 2-3 hours non-stop at max pace sounds pretty hard lol.
     
    William Levesque, Feb 27, 2018
    #141
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  2. Johnnypenso

    Johnnypenso Simracer

    Gotta love simracers; they know more about how a difficult it is to drive a high performance racecar than an actual driver because they watch Youtube vids. LOL
     
    Johnnypenso, Feb 27, 2018
    #142
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  3. Andrew_WOT

    Andrew_WOT Alien

    Andrew_WOT, Feb 27, 2018
    #143
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  4. Ace Pumpkin

    Ace Pumpkin Alien

    :D:D:D
    ... you little rascal.
    :)
     
    Ace Pumpkin, Feb 27, 2018
    #144
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  5. Andrew_WOT

    Andrew_WOT Alien

    Sounds like Mike is having a tantrum. Yesss! :)
     
    Andrew_WOT, Feb 27, 2018
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  6. unknwn

    unknwn Alien

    You have made a claim:
    Based on a comment that NSX GT3 has stock road car electric power steering. The road car itself seems to have weak feedback due to electronic steering (compared to "drivers" cars/supercars) based on car reviewers. It seems you made a generalization about GT3 cars based on one car that appears to be exception in the first place.

    DFGT has around 2.5nM max force.
    Some numbers for reference:
    http://media.caranddriver.com/files/hydraulic-vs-electric-steering-specs.pdf

    528i (EPS) max outs at ~1.75nM, while 535i (HPS) slightly above 2.5nM. Neither of these saloons are track/sports cars.
     
    Last edited: Feb 27, 2018
    unknwn, Feb 27, 2018
    #146
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  7. konnos

    konnos Simracer

    The game is not even out and you people are fighting over irrelevant stuff :p This is not topple simulator come on!
     
    konnos, Feb 27, 2018
    #147
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  8. William Levesque

    William Levesque Alien

    Both. Don't underestimate how tough Gs are on the body. That as well as being thrown around on kerbs, bumps, the heat, the mental fatigue, etc. Wouldn't say no to a bit of neck training, even in my car.

    The wheel in modern GT cars is indeed not very strong, but you can't just go fast for 2-3 hours and be a fatass.
     
    William Levesque, Feb 27, 2018
    #148
  9. stefanoCasillo

    stefanoCasillo Alien

    I think that was exactly the point he was trying to make. Most of the fatigue comes from resisting G forces and vibrations not from fighting the wheel.
     
    stefanoCasillo, Feb 27, 2018
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  10. Ace Pumpkin

    Ace Pumpkin Alien

    Nah Michael, you can do better than that. Now you gave him exactly what he wanted.
    :rolleyes:
     
    Ace Pumpkin, Feb 27, 2018
    #150
  11. chakko

    chakko Alien

    Don't tell Montoya. :p
     
    chakko, Feb 27, 2018
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  12. McGregor

    McGregor Gamer

    I guess my take on it at this point is that since I’m not too keen on paying for a DD wheel (actually it’s my wife that’s not) a good compromise may be to get my ambient room temperature to around 110 degrees while wearing a full nomex suit. Then I should feel suitably exhausted using my CSW 2.5, just like the real thing!
     
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    McGregor, Feb 27, 2018
    #152
  13. Serge M

    Serge M Alien

    It’s surprising how many people ignore g force simulation and just assume the wheel is really light becausee it has power steering. I’ll use F1 as it’s easy to find numbers. Last year the peak G force through a corner was 6.5G’s. At that force lifting your arm is roughly equivalent to lifting 26kg or so, not so easy to do repeatedly. Yet people have their wheel set up that they can turn it through high speed corners with one finger.
     
    Serge M, Feb 27, 2018
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  14. Serge M

    Serge M Alien

    CSW 2.5 at 8nm is no exactly a budget basement wheel. My CSL at 6nm is decent enough and it’s not turned up all the way. DD wheel has more benefit in accuracy of FF rather then outright strength.
     
    Serge M, Feb 28, 2018
    #154
  15. William Levesque

    William Levesque Alien

    Partly, but also seemed to be implying "anyone" could do it :p
     
    William Levesque, Feb 28, 2018
    #155
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  16. Kopiller

    Kopiller Simracer

    Kopiller, Feb 28, 2018
    #156
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  17. Ace Pumpkin

    Ace Pumpkin Alien

    Ace Pumpkin, Feb 28, 2018
    #157
  18. Orne

    Orne Alien

    Take a gokart out for several laps, feels like you've been beat up, hahhaa.
     
    Orne, Feb 28, 2018
    #158
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  19. stefanoCasillo

    stefanoCasillo Alien

    ya but G in karts are not comparable to a GT car.. karts can be really brutal.
    Also the wheel is direct 1:1 and every vibrations comes through really really strong.
     
    stefanoCasillo, Feb 28, 2018
    #159
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  20. Serge M

    Serge M Alien

    Plus no power steering or even bushings in carts so it’s all direct forces and feedback. That’s why it’s so awesome :)
     
    Serge M, Feb 28, 2018
    #160
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