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Pit Animation: Real-Time or Scripted?

Discussion in 'ACC General Discussions' started by Speed RacerX, Jul 30, 2018.

  1. Speed RacerX

    Speed RacerX Gamer

    I was pondering this question and wanted to know what does everyone think about it?
    Real-Time Pit Animation would be more like what AC does now. There is no cut scene.

    However, with a Scripted Pit Animation the scene would cut to the pit crew once you are in the pit area where you are at the posted speed limit. The scene would be a higher resolution with a post processed animation of the car pulling into the pit area being attended to by the pit crew but with a bit more cinematic atmosphere to it. For example: how GT Sport does it.

    My thought is that when you pit you always expect a certain consistent time frame. Both would always be within that time frame.
     
    Last edited: Jul 30, 2018
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  3. That my friend is a fantastic question !!!
     
  4. martcerv

    martcerv Alien

    Scripted as you put it I assume would mean auto pit. Id much prefer a full manual put including manual limiter and speeding penalties.

    I would also prefer just to stay in car but see my crew and any other crews servicing all cars around from the normal driving position. This with an option to switch the view to external during a stop or even via a button press for thise that want this.

    The fully scripted method doesnt interest me much if it would mean you just drive to the pit entry line and from pit exit. Non scripted but rendered in realtime would be better, plus have replays show full pit stops from all cars.
     
  5. Rudski

    Rudski Alien

    What are the blancpain rules? You can have a 35 second pit or if you miss it you must wait 90 seconds.?

    If you it goes by the above definition of realtime by Martcerv, that would mean people are going to be sitting for 90 seconds in some cases. I'm not sure the philosophy for game design but 90 seconds doesn't seem appealing to the general public. Sure hardcore simmers want it but I'm not sure.

    Now that I think about it I don't wanna sit in the pits for that long if i'm only playing for a short period.
    Another way I guess might be if you're doing the whole 24 hours without any time speed up force the proper pit but if you're using some sort of faster clock then no.

    Answer: Both.
     
  6. martcerv

    martcerv Alien

    The pit stop time limit isn't really relevant to the OP's idea but I would think there will be an option to use full rules and disable some such as minimum pit stop time. Adding lots of fuel and changing tyres will take some time anyway and I am sure you could set races with no stops or min stop limits. It would also be good if we could enforce rules like not allowing fuel, no tyre changes or even not being able to fill up while changing tyres along with whatever the actual Blancpain rules are.
     
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  7. D.Jankovic

    D.Jankovic Hardcore Simmer

    Would be cool if you can do everything manualy till the pit stop when you stop in the area it gives you rendered cutscene of pit crew changing tires and wiping windscreen and fuel. Etc.
     
  8. Speed RacerX

    Speed RacerX Gamer

    Insightful conversation about this. From a pure sim aspect you want penalties if you exceed pit speed limits and other rules as optional for your race.
    For quick races the animation is an option as long as it doesn't hinder you from pitting options, etc.

    Here is a video showing you what an animated pit stop would look like as a reference.
     
  9. I would love to go with full manual pitstop and stay inside of the car (exception driver swaps). I don't like the arcade-ish camera change to the outside.
    An option to choose between the views like in AC would be the best in my opinion.

    Greets After_Midnight
     
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  10. Turk

    Turk Alien

    iRacing have great pit stop animations for nascar races.



    That's how I want it to look and with a VR headset I don't want to jump to some external view during teh pit stop. Rag doll physics for the pit crew if you run into them would be appreciated but I won't be disappointed if it's not there.
     
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  11. D.Jankovic

    D.Jankovic Hardcore Simmer

    :eek: Wow... I think we have winer... I love it and i love how if you park it wrong they actually take time to adjust witch would be cool for the pit stop in Blancpain and pfc end of the video where they actually get out of the way ... if we get these type of the pits would be amazing.
     
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  12. Speed RacerX

    Speed RacerX Gamer

    @Turk
    That's actually pretty good animation overall and give you the best of both worlds in the pits.
    The only thing I would add is the other pit crews to make the pits look a bit lively.
     
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  13. Serge M

    Serge M Alien

    Defenitly the winner here, looks awesome. Does need more life in the pit lane though, too empty for a race, looks more like a private team test day
     
  14. bgil66

    bgil66 Hardcore Simmer

    left rear corner destroyed that mechanic, hope he's ok:p
     
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  15. Turk

    Turk Alien

    I've never played iRacing so for all I know there are pit crew at every stop waiting for their driver
     
  16. ShredatorFIN

    ShredatorFIN Alien

    That's the one to beat.. awesome

    Don't think taking the POV away from car would be very immersive for people who use VR
     
  17. It was eight years from the time iracing announced they were working on visible pit crews until they were released; hoping for Kunos to do the same in less than two might be a bit unrealistic.
     
  18. Impossible is nothing ;)
     
  19. D.Jankovic

    D.Jankovic Hardcore Simmer

    So the latest trailer you can see at one point driver looking at the lambo..and there is pit crew doing tires and photographers around car so that could be pit stop also or just set up to make it populated so we have to wait and see :D
     
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  20. Lawndart

    Lawndart Hardcore Simmer

    I’d assume it’s going to be very similar to how AC does it now. You can choose in car or overhead view. But if they do more mocap as they claim, I really hope they fix the “broken” wrists of the driver animations :eek:
     
  21. martcerv

    martcerv Alien

    One advantage Kunos has with ACC is its only a single class of car atm. There may be a slight adjustment needed per car but nothing major and all using the same number of crew and type of pit stop.

    ACC already has little touches like animated driver hands for dials and switches on the wheel. I think they likey have got pit animations started already too.
     
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