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Race start - always overtaking too many cars before the 1st corner

Discussion in 'Chit Chat Room' started by Davemester, Jan 5, 2017.

  1. Davemester

    Davemester Racer

    Hey!

    Do you find that if you race against the AI, from last position you can take over half of the grid before the first corner (or generally form any position a good 4-6 car). The AI usually lines up in two rows, and emergency brake like crazy, if they see another car in front of them braking, and you just have to pass evereyone. (A good example would be Nurnburgring, where from 12 you can jumpt to 3rd or even better speeding near the inner wall).

    Why is that? It shouldnt be realted to AI level as these are straights, so they should have the same speed (same class races). The lower AI should be less agreessive, or slower in corners but it just unrealistic how every start ends up.

    What do you think?
     

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  3. Tom 00

    Tom 00 Simracer

    Play online.
     
  4. frodesa

    frodesa Gamer

    This is how AI behaves in all racing game / sims I have played as far as I can remember. I guess it is hard to program AI so that it doesnt behave that way.
     
    Tomcul likes this.
  5. Louizf

    Louizf Racer

    I wait until the 2nd corner to start attacking.
    Give them a bit of fair play.:p
     
  6. ....and watch everyone else do the same to you! ;)
     
    CamsX, martcerv, Vibe Style and 6 others like this.
  7. Fat-Alfie

    Fat-Alfie Hardcore Simmer

    You can always add some aggression to the ai-hints.ini file yourself ;)

    The damned AI out-brake me into the first corner on the track I'm currently working on! :mad:
     
    SMOKING__MONKEY3 and mantasisg 2 like this.
  8. Davemester

    Davemester Racer

    Wow thanks :) , I check these options, I did not know about them.

    Thanks man, you are a real treasure. I would love to keep you in an airless box.
     
  9. St3fan

    St3fan Alien

    I agree, even in RF2, AMS, R3E with rolling start enabled the AI pile up pretty bad at T1 and I could just pass a whole bunch of them. I could even pass prototypes easily with GT cars in this way.
    The only racing game that I have played recently that doesn't have this AI issue at all and is fun at the same time is Mario Kart 8. Great game.
     
    Nekrobob likes this.
  10. Linus27

    Linus27 Simracer

    I've not noticed this issue in Grand Prix Legends, GP2 or even RF2. AC does seem to be quite a bad example of this. I hope it gets fixed as everything else in improving the AI is going in the right direction.
     
  11. LATE4APEX

    LATE4APEX Alien

    Yep, that's what I do, I enjoy "racing", once the pac is broken up, they "race " pretty well.

    I would imagine that if AI was capable of racing up to and including the 1st corner, the overhead would be be pretty big.
    Would rather have my computers resources used in other ways, after the 1st corner

    LATE4APEX
     
  12. LATE4APEX

    LATE4APEX Alien

    Were does one find the ai-hints.ini file ?

    Or is that only used in mods ?

    Thanks, LATE4APEX
     
  13. Fat-Alfie

    Fat-Alfie Hardcore Simmer

    Data folder in the track's folder. Only some KS tracks have them, but it's easy enough to write your own, to encourage the AI drivers to brake later :)
     
    Ace Pumpkin likes this.
  14. Chazz Ranger

    Chazz Ranger Alien

    I always start near the back of the pack, and as a few others said above, I just maintain position until we're all through T1. Then it's on!
     
    Ace Pumpkin and Fat-Alfie like this.
  15. Davemester

    Davemester Racer

    This may be true. But really, that wasn't the question. You are right though, I will stick to gimps, trolls like you stink.

    To everyone else, thank you!
     
    R3V3NG3 BR, Jadonyx, insomnia and 3 others like this.
  16. Mogster

    Mogster Alien

  17. Tom 00

    Tom 00 Simracer

    Please Dave save your cutting comments for the playground.
     
  18. Fat-Alfie

    Fat-Alfie Hardcore Simmer

    Four abreast??!! Lmao!! :D

    If only F1 was that close :rolleyes:
     
    Mogster likes this.
  19. BrandonW77

    BrandonW77 Alien

    Same here, give them about a half lap to get sorted and then start attacking. When you do that the racing can actually be quite fun. Kinda sucks to have to do that, but it's an easy workaround with good rewards.
     
  20. Jebus

    Jebus Alien

    STFU already! You started this bull**** with your offtopic crap.
     
    Davemester likes this.
  21. Jebus

    Jebus Alien

    Yeah that's what I do too. Would be nice to get the AI improved though.
     

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