Setup changes in multiplayer - visible to admin?

We race with the same few people every week but keep the (pickup) server opened - the welcome screen tells everyone to keep the standard setup (we do it to keep it fair between ourselves, we do quick races and don't have the time to fiddle with setups) and i just kick people who switch to different tyres (only thing visible to everyone) and yet i am convinced that most people who join are using setups given how fast they are despite some atrocious and poor driving (**** racing line, lockups etc)

I know that i could just fix the setup but since the game does not have a lobby system (on PC, consoles eventually got it) one of us spontaneously picks car&track, i put it into the server manager and we start (this takes ~30 seconds) ... forcing a standard setup on every car on the other hand takes a ****load of time (shame there's no 'one click' solution for it like with the tyres - the procedure with searching for the setup and then applying it to 20+ cars is just tedious)

so here's my two questions:

Is there some way for a server admin to know whether someone dropped out fuel or did any other changes to the car?

Is the setup data being transferred to the server and would there be a way to read that data?


p.s. sorry if this is in the wrong section

 

No and no.

Separate apps can report when someone changes fuel, but that's only client-side, and then everybody might not be running the app.

 

If its an open server most wont read the welcome screen anyway, best solution is to just spend the extra few minutes to force setups. Id think this is a better option then just kicking people for changing tyres if you want a fixed setup server but dont want to make it fixed setups.

 

And some were convinced the world was flat
No setup is going to make someone a magical driver that's just nonsense. If they can't hit the race line and are all over the place then how on earth could they be going faster? It's all in your head....

 

In any fixed setup servers Ive been in it hasnt changed the regular finishing order or even the gaps between people. In a league I used to be in that Wally ran we did some random un announced cpmbos with fixed setups, meaning people had no practice time or setup adjustments. Amazingly it made no end difference to the regular order when setups are open and practice for the weeks race is available.

Not sure what cars the OP is running but obviously if you want to run proper race cars setups are a big thing. Its kind of the main point of a race car to be able to tune it to suit track and driver as well as possible. If you dont want highly adjustable cars then either fix the setup or pick other cars.

If you pick a more basic car or roadcar with very limited setup options then you dont even have to worry about setup changes as they barely do anything. Get tyres in the window maximize camber and run minimal fuel is about all you can do and its not really hard to figure this out.

Anyone that cant take the time to learn such basics wont even be able to learn how best to adjust technique or line to get the most from any car especially when you cant do much setup wise.

I have yet to see anyone run properly competitive pace with poor lines and technique no matter the combo or if it has adjustable setups.

 

ok ok "atrocious and poor" was a bit harsh ... let's go with "not optimal" - as in: they go off on the first lap and then gain 1/s lap only to crash into someone on lap 8 because they have no racecraft ... and i'm not saying that the usual guys have perfect lines or that the others join and win all the races (they rarely do)

on road cars a simple setup can give you a few seconds per lap (what martcerv wrote ... camber, tyre pressure and low fuel ... on some gt3 cars even small changes can make them easier to drive and on cars which start with fuel for 30 laps taking out 2/3 does make a difference... add 100% stability and you can be reasonably fast even if you have a poor-ish line

the main issue is that some of us just refuse to change anything on the car, that's why we decided to keep it all standard - i know that it's just a few clicks and would make the racing better but...yea

anyways ... if it's not possible to see what others are doing i'll either close the server or spend 3 minutes between races to click my way through the entry list ... unless kunos would add a one click solution like this :^)


(i still don't understand what 'default' does)

 

I agree a one click solution would be good, I havent tested what that default button does either. Its a little tedious to manually add default setups to cars but I think trying to kick people and expecting them to all read a welcome message is going to take more effort then this.

Regarding stability control you can disable this for the server I have never ran a server allowing it. Its a fake aid and if your worried about setups being equal then disabling SC and makings aids factory will be a good move too.

 

As far I understand it, the default box is for the standard Kunos setup for the car.

 

We have some guys who only use 360 controllers and they say they need a few percent of the SC, although i do turn it off when we use cars where is makes a big difference, i think that it even dulls down most modern cars so it's not a big deal

Ok i know what default does and it's not the standard kunos setup ... one can add various setups and one of those can be marked as the default, so when no setup is picked in the drop down it will put the picked default in there once you save the server config.