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Setup Guide for Beginners

Discussion in 'ACC General Discussions' started by Skaven Zverov, May 9, 2020.

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  1. LATE4APEX

    LATE4APEX Alien

    They had to,... :rolleyes:
     
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  2. alexgeotech09

    alexgeotech09 Rookie

    [QUOTE = "sps_for_race, post: 1178650, member: 159904"] Non mi piacciono quelle guide create dalla community ...

    Leggi due pagine, ottieni 2 valori diversi:

    ACC - Guida all'installazione per principianti - Trinacria Simracing (wordpress.com)
    [ATTACH = full] 147936 [/ ATTACH]

    ACC - Crea un setup pioggia sicuro e guidabile, passo dopo passo - Trinacria Simracing (wordpress.com)
    [ATTACH = full] 147937 [/ ATTACH]

    Non sono menzionate premesse diverse tra GT3 e GT3, il titolo è ACC - Beginner Setup Guide, non ACC GT3 Setup Guide, ma l'obiettivo PSI non è lo stesso. [/ QUOTE]

    Hahahaha yours look like the comments of a university professor correcting a thesis.
    If you had read the text of the web pages carefully, they are not my considerations but information taken from a document by Adam Isailovic (aka Skaven Zverov) and a video of Aris that I collected hoping to do something that everyone likes (They could be subjective evaluations or Aris in some of his videos, he could have given different pressure ranges. I wouldn't make this a vital issue, they are just indicative pressure ranges). So, if you want to know more, ask them for explanations.
    My collection of information does not claim to be the setup bible. Anyway, if you don't like the night I'll sleep anyway.

    NB: Among other things, as you can see, pankykapus responded by providing you with an even different pressure range from that of Aris and of Adam Isailovic.
     
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  3. pankykapus

    pankykapus KS Dev Team Staff Member KS Dev Team

    Please note that I deliberately quoted a wider range covering both values from the two sources because ultimately decimal-correct pressures are not always the deciding factor in these conditions, that was my main point.

    The answer is "it depends". You can have a perfectly fine stint with 31-ish psi and green tyres and an utterly slow one with 30.00000 psi while red and overheating. In the wet or on a changing track your net stint pace will hardly be affected by being 0.5-1.0psi off, it's a lot more about managing temps, not overdriving, cooling the tyres and not spinning or crashing. Whether it's 29 to 30 or 30 to 31 is missing the point.
    Yes, if all other properties are in optimum range, then 30 is better than 28.5 or 31, but it's not the primary factor.
     
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  4. alexgeotech09

    alexgeotech09 Rookie

    Thanks, I understood the meaning of your answer. I just wanted to joke a little to drive people who are too controversial crazy
     
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  5. sps_for_race

    sps_for_race Alien

    I wasn´t looking for rain preassures in this thread, but saw your last post where you wrote, you have


    but with 2 different values, I just wanted to tell you, to check your data.
    I´m not depending on this Setup Guide for Beginners and there ist no need to attack me personally!
    Just tried to make your guide better, no need to defend yourself.
     
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  6. #Race@Home

    #Race@Home Rookie

    "Oh thank you, I´ve overseen this, will change it in my guide and include the preassures for GT4 as well, thanks again for your help", could have been your reaction as well.....
     
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  7. lordpatou

    lordpatou Simracer

    Ok, now try to find optimum pressure for iRacing GT3's... i never found.
     
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  8. alexgeotech09

    alexgeotech09 Rookie

    I have already explained to you that what is written in the guide is not my data. Instead, it is a collection of information taken from people more authoritative than me in terms of setup. Is it so hard to understand? Do I have to explain it to you in other words? Why do you think my answer is a personal attack?
     
  9. sps_for_race

    sps_for_race Alien

     
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  10. alexgeotech09

    alexgeotech09 Rookie

    hahahah
    sps_for_race despises the work of others by saying "I don't like those community created guides ..." and should I thank him? I only thank those who use good manners.
     
  11. #Race@Home

    #Race@Home Rookie

    You have confusing numbers in your guide, but make jokes about others who want´s to help ?
    Who is the one without good manners?
     
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  12. alexgeotech09

    alexgeotech09 Rookie

    Should I also explain to you that what is written in the guide is not my data? Instead, it is a collection of information drawn by people more authoritative than me in terms of setup. Is it so hard to understand?

    Those who don't know good manners are those who despise the work of others.
     
  13. #Race@Home

    #Race@Home Rookie

    Fix it with correct numbers you´ve got lately from pankykapus and add GT4 preassures, or leave your guide like what it is and keep on moaning in this thread.
    I don´t care.
     
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  14. alexgeotech09

    alexgeotech09 Rookie

    I do not take instructions from you and I simply gave explanations on the origin of the data contained in the guide, without complaining even though there are people who do not know good manners. Imagine what it matters to me what you write.
     
  15. AndyK70

    AndyK70 Hardcore Simmer

    @alexgeotech09
    Imho: If you gather information from others and present it to an audience as one (doing a collection) you should be assuring the data you are presenting is correct. When made aware of uncertainties or worse, e.g. errors, you should correct them or not do such presentations at all.
    I'm assuming your intention was to help users by doing that collection. Without correcting your work/collection you are missing that point. That's it.
    If you want to help, great! Go make that data correct, after all you got additional information from a dev himself, so add this information as well and add a note/link to those "old" values about that enhanced information you got.
    If you don't want to help but just wanted to have some fame, go delete it and don't waste users time.

    You're welcome. :)
     
  16. alexgeotech09

    alexgeotech09 Rookie

    In fact, I believe that all the data I had submitted was correct and I have published it. The confirmation that they were correct was given by pankykapus, which provided in a wider pressure range, which includes those I wrote.

    I don't know what kind of studies you have done, I have a scientific university education; when a search is made in this context, the results found are presented, sometimes slightly different from each other, and the authors are cited, without altering what they have written. The only way to make changes is to carry out experimental tests. This last road is not viable because the original boundary conditions are not known.

    In any case, as specified by pankykapus, the controversy was futilely triggered for marginal and irrelevant issues in practice.
     
  17. sps_for_race

    sps_for_race Alien

    It wasn´t even about, if the numbers are correct or not.
    The point was, you´ve written on two pages two different preassure windows for the exact same usecase, wich is confusing, this is what I pointed out.
    Not if it is 27.3 or 27.5 or whatever.


    Not too many options left, if you don´t take instuction from #Race@Home,...
    Can´t leave it and can´t fix it, what will you do?
     
  18. #Race@Home

    #Race@Home Rookie

    +
    There is no difference made between GT3 and GT4 cars.
    There is nowhere written, those numbers are only valid for GT3 cars.
     
  19. alexgeotech09

    alexgeotech09 Rookie

    If only GT3 cars are listed in the guide, it is clear what the purpose of the guide is. I don't think people lack intuition. You're the only one who pointed out such a thing to me.
     
  20. sps_for_race

    sps_for_race Alien

    What a stubborn refusal, instead of adding a line with GT4 tire preassures, and aligning both pages, to one or the other.
    This is a ridiculous discussion, I´m out.
    You have won.
     
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