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Setup Guide for Beginners

Discussion in 'ACC General Discussions' started by Skaven Zverov, May 9, 2020.

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  1. alexgeotech09

    alexgeotech09 Rookie

    The discussion is also ridiculous because it arises from the fact that you have not even been able to correctly underline what I have written. In fact, you avoided underlining what I wrote in brackets (up a maximum of 31 psi) just to accentuate the negligible differences between two data and create a controversy.
    That's all for me, I don't have time to waste with you.
     
  2. #Race@Home

    #Race@Home Rookie

    Serious?

    I don´t even see the issue in the brackets, it´s in front of the brackets....


    brackets.jpg
     
  3. alexgeotech09

    alexgeotech09 Rookie

    so why did your friend underline the sentence differently? Are you his lawyer? If we then march in mathematical terms, the second pressure interval (29 -31 psi) incorporates the first (30 -31 psi).
     
  4. #Race@Home

    #Race@Home Rookie

    Oh, and vice versa?

    [​IMG]

    You are too clever for me, with your
    It was a pleasure for me to talk with you today.

    Have a nice day.
     
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  5. AndyK70

    AndyK70 Hardcore Simmer

    just my personal thoughts:
    It wasn't the first time you wrote about "university", "professor", "studies" , etc... This is not a masters exam work you have done. This is not for professors or specialists of a specific scientific topic. This is for users, especially beginners, which seek help by having the most simple and straight on explanation for how to have the car behaving in a way they can handle or like it.

    Those users get confused when having the same scenario and two different explanations (pressure windows).
    It is no help for them leaving the explanations as is, when is it confusing. It's not about correct citing, it's about being helpful.

    I get you don't want to alter the original text, that's why I suggested to add a cite note or a link to those explanations which then brings them to the explanation by pankykapus adding an information why those numbers can differ for the same scenario.

    I stand by my suggestion: be helpful to those beginners and correct/add the new information or delete it alltogether. Because in the state it is now, it is no help for beginners, but rather confusing.
     
  6. alexgeotech09

    alexgeotech09 Rookie

    Now I tell you my thought:
    you start from the wrong assumption that the beginner is obtuse and that he gets confused for so little. Let's even say that someone gets confused, it won't be the end of the world. Don't take yourself too seriously (Don't be a beginner's tutor), this is a great, great, video game, for me the best simulator ever but it's still just a game. For example, it doesn't seem to me that you have ever had any doubts that driving (both Skaven Zverov and mine) is exclusively about GT3 cars. In fact, no one has ever asked for explanations in this regard. Therefore change your initial wrong assumption that the beginner cannot understand. Then, as you may have read earlier, there was an instrumental attempt to amplify the differences in pressure windows. Why don't you say anything on this subject?
    Finally, I don't think you read what pankykapus wrote: In the wet or on a changing track your net stint pace will hardly be affected by being 0.5-1.0psi off, it's a lot more about managing temps, not overdriving, cooling the tires and not spinning or crashing. Whether it's 29 to 30 or 30 to 31 is missing the point.
    For me that's all and the talk ends here.
     
    Last edited: Jan 2, 2021
  7. pankykapus

    pankykapus KS Dev Team Staff Member KS Dev Team

    Let's please move on :)
     
  8. Cirith Ungol

    Cirith Ungol Racer

    I can't understand why this forum always attract people who can't do anything positive, just criticizing. All the driver I drove with in leagues are always friendly and helpful and this forum there is always this small (I'm pretty sure it's less than 10 ppl) and loud minority who is never happy about anything. :rolleyes: Someone did a guide, you can help improve it but if you're not happy that's about it, move on.
     
  9. Skaven Zverov

    Skaven Zverov Simracer

    Hi guys, sorry for not being active for some time. I will work on v2.0 and publish it soon :)

    It will have both GT3 and GT4 info, as wet info too. Thanks for updating me :)
     
  10. Skaven Zverov

    Skaven Zverov Simracer

    If you check the dates, you would see GT4's didn't exist then. So...yeah.

    I am making 2.0 with both GT3 and GT4's included, and additional info.
     
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  11. Skaven Zverov

    Skaven Zverov Simracer

    Thank you for clearing that, will add that to the Guide :)
     
  12. Skaven Zverov

    Skaven Zverov Simracer

    Hey mate, i will make v2.0 in few days, is it ok to send you the new one when it's done?
     
  13. Skaven Zverov

    Skaven Zverov Simracer

    Also, please stop arguing. I don't want this thread to be locked because of people fighting. I didn't ever read most of it, don't have time for drama.

    I said in my OP that this guide is here to help the people, and everything people said it was incorrect, and was factually checked, was changed. Guide will be updated for new changes, as GT4 cars, wet pressures, etc.
    This is collection of data from YT videos, other people who knows much better than me, and again, is subject to change, since i am learning more, and more info is coming in.

    It would be nice to continue with civil tone, and continue building this Guide. I hope some of the ACC people will have the heart to help :) I may also make better design, don't have time for that at the moment.
     
  14. Want2BFast

    Want2BFast Racer

    When I started simracing your guide was one of the first things I downloaded. And I know other simracers who also rely on it. It’s very useful. Thank you for the effort you put into it.
     
  15. A very important part, regarding setup adjustments, is the study of the features of the circuit you are gonna race at. It would be cool to add suggestions in that sense (low wing track, hard suspension track).
    These infos are crucial to get the right path while changing the setup.
     
  16. alexgeotech09

    alexgeotech09 Rookie

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