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Strange AI behaviour in Special Events since 1.12.2

Discussion in 'Chit Chat Room' started by Mike1304, Feb 22, 2017.

  1. Mike1304

    Mike1304 Alien

    I tried latest 1.12.2 update and fired up some Special Events, which I always try after a new update.

    And with this latest version the behaviour of the AI-opponents is totally different after the start. I tried it with "Supercar Race" (Ferrari 458 at Silverstone), "Trackday Challenge" (= KTM X-Bow at Vallelunga) or "Lotus Cup" (=Lotus Exige at Imola) -> always the same strange behaviour which didn't occur in the latest versions:

    Right after the start (after a few meters) the AI-opponents suddenly make a very harsh movement to the ideal-line. It looks very unnatural. In the past they did smooth movements and sometimes they went into the first corner side by side. But now they want to line up at all costs (they all make a very quick and harsh maneuver and even touch each other by doing this).

    Don't know why this happens because I didn't read anything in the changelog 1.12.2 about AI-changes. But I can assure you that it is very different (and not placebo) beause it is really noticeable and as I said I always try these Special Events and know the behaviour of the AI-opponents very well.

    Please can anyone confirm this?
     
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  3. Horus

    Horus Alien

    I concur they are totally wild now, and yes they were not like this before the 1.12.2 update.


    edit:- tried with a vanilla my docs AC and a Steam verification, same hazardous twitchy moves to the racing line.
     
  4. Mike1304

    Mike1304 Alien

    So it's a bug then? Can a dev move it out from the chitchat to a right position, please? Don't know how to do it (if it's even possible)... Thank you!
     
  5. Mike1304

    Mike1304 Alien

    Hmm, no reaction from the devs yet and also only one confirmation from another user...

    For me this is the biggest problem at the moment as I use Special Events very much and this strange AI behaviour is almost a game-breaker as it destroys immersion in single-player. You suddenly feel inside a "game" with "artificial" (and stupid) opponents and don't have the used feeling of being in a real race, not recognizing that the opponents are driven by AI, anymore!
    Only online-gamers out there or does the problem only occur for several users? As Horus already confirmed this problem only occurs since 1.12.2! Any ideas?
     
  6. mms

    mms Alien

    I can confirm this happening too, not in the special events but on a modded track though.
     
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  7. atw

    atw Gamer

    I saw this happening in a quick race with the MX5 Cup at Silverstone National - right after the start they all stumbled into each other trying to get to the ideal line.
    I got from 15th to 3rd before the end of the straight.
    So it's definitely not happening only in special events, and not only on modded tracks.
     
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  8. TwoHardCore

    TwoHardCore Simracer

    Well, I'm soooo lazy at this forum now, but I was the only one (thus far) who's rated this thread. That was my "confirmation".

    But since the dev's may need more than a rating, I can confirm the "elbows out" mentality that the AI drivers have for the first few meters of a "race". Not a special event, but it happens at every race-start. They take off at the lights, stick their elbows out, and then proceed to shove those elbows into whomever is driving beside them...reminds me of the way that brothers wrestle/fight with each other. No serious damage, but a pain in the arse anyway.

    Edit: also, you might want to report this in the "bug" section somewhere
     
    Last edited: Feb 23, 2017
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  9. Parminio

    Parminio Simracer

    I ran a quick race today and got steamrolled off the track. Just smacked me from behind and plowed me off the track into the guardrail. Haven't had that happen before, just figured it was one of those things.
     
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  10. atw

    atw Gamer

    I just tried several races, on different tracks and with different cars (no mods) - it's happening in all races, regardless of track, car type, or number of cars, with hilarious results.
    It was definitely not as bad before 1.12.2.
    I also tried verifying the integrity - no change.
     
  11. pmc

    pmc Hardcore Simmer

    I'd expect a fix pretty quickly
     
  12. mms

    mms Alien

    Interestingly it does not seem to happen on the Highlands track (having some fun in the Maserati bathtubs there, you guys must try it out :p ).

    I think it's time to open a thread in the bugs section...
     
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  13. Mike1304

    Mike1304 Alien

    Maybe if someone is better than me with such things and could post some videos from the start so that the devs could see what we mean with this new "bad behaviour" (AI suddenly make strange abrupt maneuvers to get to ideal racing line at all costs and even touching/crashing them...
    Why did this occur with 1.12.2 although there were no changes in AI mentioned in changelog? Perhaps it can be eliminated by the devs as quick as it occurred...
     
  14. LChaves

    LChaves Hardcore Simmer

    I experienced that same thing recently, right after the start the AI quickly dives to the racing line in a swerve that would make Michael Schumacher blush, crazy driving.
     
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  15. Mike1304

    Mike1304 Alien

    I already asked the devs to move this whole thread to a correct bug section some posts above but they didn't react yet.
    Maybe they didn't read it or they don't take it serious.
    ...or they don't have time to react because they already work on a fix for this annoying, immersion-destroying bug. This would be the best variant....
     
  16. atw

    atw Gamer

    Has anybody tried 1.12.3? Is this still happening?
    I'm at work and can't try it yet.
     
  17. Mike1304

    Mike1304 Alien

    It has been fixed with latest 1.12.3. Everything is normal again! Thank you devs!!!
     
  18. mms

    mms Alien

    You should have known better ;) Best devs evah :p
     
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