Stupid question: tc 1/12-12/12, which means more electronic assist?

I'm just confused as which gives more assist. I mostly drive with TC off, but sometimes I need a little bit help (with some cars, with some temperature, with some traction level, etc) but get confused which level to set to.

Also, is there a fast way to turn off TC (especially in MP on a server that enables TC by default) rather than use Ctrl-T to go through all the possible settings?

Thanks.

 

I was told that lower number is (agianst logic) maximum assist and as you go higher you are going down with it ...

fastest for me is to bind CTRL+T and CTRL+A to wheel buttons (in logitech profiler) ... until they get controls and binding sorted (until is used in purpose, cause I don`t believe this could be what they want for final version)

 

I use joytokey and map ctrl-a, ctrl-t, and F11 to some buttons on my wheel.

 

There is no explanation about how it works, and no button to return to default. Also at the start of the session when TC is set to default, it is represented as 1. But with some cars when you cahange it and come back to 1, it behaves different than original default.

You can ask developers to add button to set default value but you will get bashed for it and maybe banned.

 

and could you pls ask for one more button .. for going step back with TC (so we don`t have to go through 12 settings to go back to zero .. or so we could bind it to rotationary switch) .. you`ll be bashed and banned anyway so ...

 

And when you are at it, suggest them something like customizable controls for it..

 

yeah .. we should make a list and sacriface one guy .. volunteers ??

 

I mean it's quite annoying that I sometimes can accidentally go over "off" and turn on TC (or abs) again. So there is no way for "off" atm, right?

 

Of course not, this game is in development only 2 years

EDIT: It's more actually

 

nope

 

THe lowest level is the easiest, but it will slow you down! the highest one, ithe msot difficult (less assist) but won't slow down your engine! find the setting that suits you best

 

And eventually drive with it off.

 

On most of AC official cars, driving without TC is usually faster maybe, the TC frequency is not high enough

 

Actually depends on the car since it uses a lookup table - in the Z4 GT3 setting 1 is most restrictive and 12 is least, in the 458 and MP4-12C (last I looked, anyway) setting 10 is the most restrictive and 9 is the least (no it doesn't make sense. blame england)

 

That's confusing... cuz you would think 12/12=1=100% right..?

OMG really? That's even more confusing. Is there any collected info on this lookup table? It seems that I need to have individual manuals for individual cars in AC as irl.

 

The game has been out for years and we still don't have these basic things sorted out. We need propper abs/tc descriptions with a bindable abs/tc up/down button (and eventually the option to use wheel's dpads). Users are asking for this from the early access but it seems that the priority are things like the glowing discs that are looking very good on consoles

 

I would hope that AC would do it like in R3E: there you can use the pit to set up any TC step to any level you want (in %). That way you can have linear as well as non-linear progression when you switch through the settings. The latter would be interesting with advanced tire models that have no longer linear tire wear, but non-linear. You may have a phase when the tire wears out fast, and then it reaches a plateau and stays stabile for relatively long time, then it degrades a bit faster again and progressively over a longer time, then reaches a plateau again at a lower structural integrity level - drivers say there even can be temporary raises later on in the tire's lifespan . If you have tested the tire and know its behaviour very well, you do not need to switch through all TC settings to find a match whenever you feel the tire has changed again, but you just switch to the next setting, because you have programmed a profile before. You do not have something like 100-90-80-70-60% etc like there is now, but you may have something like for example 20-30-45-55-40-60%.And you n ever search for the matching set, but just move the TC switch one mark further.

I did not knew that drivers do this at least in some series. But I saw a dev stream for R3E where a driver said that sometimes it gets done like this indeed (ADAC GT Master series). I assume he knew what he was talking, since he was the last season's champion. If I recall it correctly - I am not certain anymore I must admit, and I do not feel like wanting to go through those 105 minutes of video again - he even indicated that sometimes TC gets changed back and forth between settings within just one and the same lap, to prepare for the track section ahead.

In AC, this ability would be especially interesting for players never using much TC or only low doses of it, but would like to have finer grain when dialing in the "right" step for TC in cockpit. Instead of having a 5-step range reading 100-80-60-40-20%, if that is what it is now, they maybe would orefer to just have 5-10-15-20-25%. Much more control over TC settings!

In real race series, regulations only say what assists are allowed, must be installed or are banned, and of what technical specifications the systems must be (there are various ways to have something serving as an ABS, if I understood it correctly). Some things like ABS practically get used by all teams and drivers, even if its use is voluntary, since its advantages outclass any opposing argument. Regulations nevertheless say nothing, AFAIK, what efficiency and effectiveness levels the systems and their sub-steps must have. - AFAIK, at least. I am no intimate experts of these rule books. Nor can I imagine they make an interesting reading for the novice.

Also, especially with those cars offering you TC and ABS in 12 steps, it would be helpful to have two buttons: one moving up, and one moving down. The system there is now, is not a shining example of ergonomy.

A minor thing. But the better thing is the enemy of the just good thing.

 

that would be great and you can even support it with 'real life beahviour' argument

 

Heard-of real life behaviour arguments, to be precise.

 

How many steps it has is easy to see, just look at the knob dial in the cockpit (often placed on the steering wheel these times)

What each settings does though is much harder to know but I think Kunos does know at least if for example 12/12 is highest or lowest assistance. At least that would explain why it's the one or other way around

Still confusing though but eventually we should find out, only need to spend some time in the car and switch through the settings.