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ACC Blog The ACC Rating System - PART II (Long version)

Discussion in 'ACC General Discussions' started by Minolin, Oct 10, 2018.

  1. Epistolarius

    Epistolarius Alien

    Looks like it settled again after a few laps.
  2. Minolin

    Minolin Staff Member KS Dev Team

    Finally found the issue. Please be aware that we have 2 changes: one is just correcting a typo leading to weird CC and CN values (including 0).
    The other one will make the CC value get more extreme, populating the whole range of 0 - 100 after your next lap.

    Please keep me posted about your ratings and feelings.
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  3. mms

    mms Alien

    CC went from around 65 to 90
    CN went from around 85 to 93

    My feelings went from "hate it" to "love it" :D:D:D Just kidding of course, no hard feelings for my ordinary ratings ;)
  4. Minolin

    Minolin Staff Member KS Dev Team

    Ya pretty much expected. Please be aware that this is highly non-linear, and the 1 CC/CN point is worth A LOT above 90.
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  5. manuel_rendo

    manuel_rendo Gamer

    Hi Minolin.
    The updated seems to work as you expected.
    Cc jumped from 54 to 82
    CN from 69 to 81
    PC 81 remains 81
    RC was 00 ——00 after the update remains the same.
    SA 77 now 75
    Regarding SA I have tried to be as clean as possible in a couple of 20 mins races with rain
    Sometimes I was hit laterally from IA cars,,and I noticed that even if you are hit,,you will
    See shortly your SA rating decrease 1 point. Arguably I might be partially responsible in a few times,
    But not in others,,,
    Same if you are the one contacting IA car..there is no distinction.
    Ratings seems to move more rationally now,,except perhaps for the SA ,,,as some light contact
    Even if it is “not” your fault (example IA car being overtaken) which I tried to do as clean
    As possible,taking a lot of time,etc,,will provide you with some penalty...in short any slight contact
    is punished by the SA rating at the moment no matter if you are responsable or not.
    Another issue is during the formation lap sometimes IA cars bump into you making you spin off the track...therefore you may be given a 1 point Penalty in SA....
    Other than this issues,,I find great the rating system..so if the multiplayer works out well
    Will be a real breakthrough..
  6. WallyM

    WallyM Alien

    My CC and CN jumped to 95, which felt more "right", so I like the change.

    That is, until I drove the Huracan. Then I dropped to 93/93. :rolleyes:
  7. BEsnake

    BEsnake Racer

    Damn this update made my stats jump was wondering how i could have better CC since i only had 71-76 ish usualy
    So after this update

    CC jumped from 71 to 91

    CN jumped from 89 to 94

    Makes alot more sense now
  8. fabT

    fabT Hardcore Simmer


    Just tried a very long ( 70+ laps ) hotlap session.

    CC moved from 67 to 75
    CN moved from 89 to 96.

    Will try the hotstint tomorrow.
  9. flihp

    flihp Gamer

    in the space of 4 laps in free practice with a race setup and 120L fuel, my CC went from 66-90 and Cn from 87-93 and i wasnt tidy at all. 10 laps later - cc to 89 and CN 92. however what i found most interesting is my PC went from 98-99 even though i was in free practice. im just assuming here that although PC rating does not alter during practice, that it still links in the background and that more new players went slower than me in comparison to already rated players going faster..
    Q> will the whole rating system be set to zero at v1 release? , if it is... for the sake of giving feedback i will do some silly runs in order to better understand the rating system itself. such as long slower but consistent runs, races with only 5 or so AI and some close racing to see the behavior of RC and SA. and so on... lowering AI performance, leading the pack and defending the position etc.



  10. Paulo Ribeiro

    Paulo Ribeiro Rookie


    I believe I really need help from DEVs.
    Just keep doing 20mnts stints, with several laps with all squares green. Lap after lap. Made one stint yesterday. Two stints today, one with 20 cars on track and one with wet to dry.

    Really enjoying ACC since day 1 (really love this game) :). But now the frustration is high and the motivation is low to keep diging. I still have TR 56, CN 0.
    Am I the only guy in the world with this issue? Rating System is still broken for me? I'm just wasting time, while everybody is improving their RS?

    Will back to AC, Rfactor2 and PCars2? Don't get me wrong, those games have many positive features aswell, but my aim is to improve my RS in ACC, or I might can not race online due to my stuck TR and CN.

    So, again, DEVs please help this weird issue. Please watch the attached links with the pictures.

    Thanks in advance,
  11. chksix

    chksix Racer

    Don't get stuck on the numbers. They will be reset many times before the game goes final.
  12. Minolin

    Minolin Staff Member KS Dev Team

    Yep I can see there is an issue with your profile, thanks for reporting.
    Sadly I the logs already rolled over, can I ask you to do another lap in ACC and then immediately tell me? I should be able to understand the issue and also fix your profile within shortest time.

    Also I'm very sorry about the frustration; Yes I haven't seen this for another person yet, and this is the Early Access of a brand-new system - so complications are expected. I'm trying my best to solve issues quickly.
    Next time please just report before you are highly frustrated :D
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  13. Paulo Ribeiro

    Paulo Ribeiro Rookie

    Hi Minolin,
    Thank you for your fast reply and concerne.

    Just have done another 20mnts wet to dry stint at Misano (some pictures attached).
    Unfortunately TR and CN remains with same values. o_O
    Haven't go for a good lap time, my aim was purelly consistency.


    I still love ACC. ;)

  14. kiril_r

    kiril_r Gamer

    @Minolin , will you check my profile? My RaceCraft is still 'kaput' :confused: :D

  15. Minolin

    Minolin Staff Member KS Dev Team

    Thx, that lead me to the issue with your profile. You asked if you are the only one: Yes, this is a very unique issue.
    I should have known when I fetched your id.. In early development stages I let the AI drivers populate the leaderboards for testing purposes. As they don't have real identities, I just assigned an id high enough we would never see a developer/tester colliding with that id. But when removing the code before the 0.1 release, I forgot one piece; that prevented that your profile can be loaded.

    I'm very sorry, but also glad you found your way here so I can fix this. Will require some testing, but your changes should be in with the next server update (today if everything is correct).

    Will do
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  16. Minolin

    Minolin Staff Member KS Dev Team

    @Paulo Ribeiro Fix is up, I hope you can now fully enjoy ACC!

    Leaderboards have a temporary protection against the unpaused conditions; in case the first lap is too dry, the leaderboard will show an error (and the first lap is considered invalid).
    A session restart resolves the state.
  17. Paulo Ribeiro

    Paulo Ribeiro Rookie

    Hi Minolin,

    I'm glad to say that your fix was a success!
    Many thanks for your concerne and time to fix the issue so quickly. :)

    Made a 30mnts race at Misano with 19 AI and after 3 laps numbers went up and new RS began to show up.

    Made a few screenshots for you. Now my motivation went high again. Hehe.

    Just one odd thing, with 10mnts of race to go, just lost game sound. Pretty hard those 10mnts without sound, but I wanted to finish in podium. LOL. So kept going. o_O
    After finishing, the game freezed and I had to reboot PC. Just return to game, but had no menu sounds. Began a challenge and voilá, sound has returned. Weird...

    Again, many thanks for being so fast fixing my issue.



    P.S.: Everytime I want to sign in to forum, always have to open my mail to get a 2 step signing in code key. Quite annoying because some times I have to wait 15 or 20 mnts to get the message. :confused:
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  18. Tonight I entered ACC and I found my rating reset, I left the beginning, what did you want or not?
    thank you
  19. This morning everything is back ok.
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  20. kakusso

    kakusso Hardcore Simmer

    The TR rating should not exist. IRL a professional license is all a driver needs specific track knowledge is not required. Please don't turn this into a gas pipe factory.
    Last edited: Nov 4, 2018
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