The Viper ACR is officially hunting a Nurburgring laptime

Old school
http://www.bridgetogantry.com/the-viper-acr-is-officially-hunting-a-nurburgring-laptime/

 

Lol, reminds me of 2011, new GT2 RS and Corvette ZR1 will probably go for the same record.

 

I am rooting for the Viper, but I would probably never buy it if I had the cash, it's a bit too heavy and not enough hard core

 

So the USA finally managed to build a car that goes around corners ?
Horray ...

 

I have no doubt it will beat the hypercars, its downforce and suspension are fantastic. Do wonder how it will fair againest the new gt2 rs, i reckon the dodge will win

 

I guess I really don't know what "hard core" means.

 

Has A/C and a full leather interior #posh

 

As a road car, Im not sure how you can describe this as not "hardcore"...

 

American cars could always do this, the issue was with track design. They needed solid concrete walls to assist the turning at speed and also be strong enough to hold up against the overweight american muscle + driver combo.

 

Really? Have you seen the traction on that thing?
I'd rather see Sport Auto do a group test to be honest.ACR vs GT2 RS vs Huracan Perf vs McLaren 720S (maybe the new ZR1 as well?)

 

It smashed the hypers on a lot of tracks. I think it will win that being said im a porsche fan so thats what im gunning for.

 

I saw two doing some shakedown driving last year, driving with other cars on track. It was downright frightening seeing them run with the usuals. Like someone had turned loose 2 GTD cars in an unassuming trackday.

 

Yeah, it's quite impressive, I'd really love to try it in AC, apparently a GT3 RS feels tame compared to it, and that car feels better than any other street car in AC, by miles.
Also, I think we'll see quite a wave of sub 7 minute supercars and hardcore sportcars. Heck, the normal 911 GT3 does a 7:12, do you really need anything faster than that?

 

Viper is warming up
http://www.bridgetogantry.com/viper-acr-e-reports-7m03s-still-warming-up/

 

It's a handful.

 

Way more downforce and more race ready suspension yet its 10 seconds behind in the Huracan. Oh I know what the difference is, I could see the tyres screeching as they were hitting the limits of their grip threshold.

Wonder why I couldnt hear that on the Huracan onboards, theres no sound dampening.

psshhh

 

We'll see. I totally agree on the tyres part but I have no way to know for sure so I won't jump to conclusions. The lap of the Viper could have been better, I'm fairly sure they will get a better one out of it when they come back for a second attempt in August and the car is no doubt capable to go under 7 minutes. Theoretically the Viper ACR should be well suited for the Nordschleife with tons of downforce (but also drag) and lots of torque all across the powerband - but a lot depends on how well the driver and car can put the power down. And it's still a manual, let's not forget. As for aero, we don't know how well the ALA system works in reality so it might well be that the Huracán has by comparison much less drag for the downforce it produces.

With the upcoming GT2 RS time potentially beating Lamborghini's time (there's some clues alluding to it although it seems unlikely, we'll see) what would you do then, blame Porsche as well?

 

Yes I would depending on the evidence on the onboards, the lambo onboard was really odd, there were many areas that time could be made up, easily could have been into the high 40s. After watching a lot of onboards its quite easy to tell when a driver is holding back or pushing like their life depended on it.

The other evidence is that once the aventador was taken to other tracks way slower cars smashed it in lap times, GT3 RSs were beating it in some cases. Hell take it in assetto corsa and the same thing happens.

Its too shady for me

But now im doubting every nurburgring time its gotten too political and there isnt any proper governing system to make sure some sillyness isnt happening.

 

Can't take real world track records too seriously, they're not scientific testing, lots of factors are at play. Even with a governing system you still have to account for track conditions that can change wildly on the Nordschleife. It'd ensure that dubious tyres wouldn't be an issue though, yeah.


Some technical (claimed) specs comparison as baseline (ignoring electronic systems these cars have):

(ignore the msrp, didn't check if they include tax. And weight distribution for the GT2 is a typo, should be 39/61)

 

At least Porsche's put in the hands of regular testers are not 20s slower than the official record, -cough- Lamborghini .
I think the ACR might actually have too much downforce for the Nordschleife, but they know that as well, running a more relaxed setup might help them, I have no doubt this thing can go a LOT under 7 minutes, as will the GT2 RS.The Huracan's lap is too sketchy for me, even for a Nurburgring record, even the AMG GT R was running on the most extreme compound Sport Cup 2 (almost slick tyres), there's too much discrepancy in what each manufacturer uses.