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Thrustmaster T3PA vs. PRO

Discussion in 'Steering wheels discussions' started by TheMiz44, Feb 2, 2017.

  1. Ravellron

    Ravellron Racer

    I've got My t3pa Pro two days ago, i've swapped them in gt mode to. :)
     
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  2. Gulf917K

    Gulf917K Racer

    Do you find them better in GT mode Rav?:)
     
  3. LeonSuetfeld

    LeonSuetfeld Alien

    Before my rig I also had mine in GT mode and liked it better. Now with the rig that's not an option anymore, but the board for the pedals is tilted, so it's pretty good in the GT Omega :)
     
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  4. Gulf917K

    Gulf917K Racer

    Thanks Leon. The Playseat evolution has a tilted footplate also. So should be a lot better!
    I am going to upgrade to the GT Omega. When funds allow and I can catch my missus on a good day!:)
     
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  5. Ravellron

    Ravellron Racer

    Very nice, heeltoe is perfect
     
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  6. Gulf917K

    Gulf917K Racer

    brilliant!:D
     
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  7. LeonSuetfeld

    LeonSuetfeld Alien

    Jesus Christ, this is SO much work, especially if you don't have the proper tools (in my case drills for steel). I spent literally all day drilling, dremeling and putting things together, BUT all the foreseeable hard work is done now. What's left is to wait for the springs, cut the L's down to allow for the arms to rotate, get some more minor parts for a couple cents from the hardware store and put it all together. Here's hoping to having a clutch by this time tomorrow...

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  8. Gulf917K

    Gulf917K Racer

    It will all be worth it in the end Leon!!;)
     
  9. LeonSuetfeld

    LeonSuetfeld Alien

    We'll see about that... but yea, there's hope ;)
    If it feels good I'll make a detailed video about it in the second half of this week.
     
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  10. Gulf917K

    Gulf917K Racer

    Well. Here is my take on the T3PA Pro compared to standard. Having taken delivery today!
    First impressions were they are substantially better built than the standard ones. Mainly because they are all metal.
    But basically that's it!:(
    I spent all afternoon putting them together and setting up on my rig. They are so damn heavy!
    You have to download the instructions, which were so confusing because they mainly focused on the F1 configuration and not GT. Especially when it came to installing the conical brake mod. I had to look at everything upside down!
    And talking of the brake mod. The bracket would not take the thread on the rubber cone. I had to use a monkey wrench to screw it in!
    I own a Playseat evo. And there were absolutely no instructions. And I couldn't find any online as to how they attached to the footplate. I did sort it in the end only by trial and error mind.o_O
    They are so heavy, that there is a lot of play especially under braking. These are really designed to be flat on the floor or you need a pretty sturdy rig!
    So. All in all I'm pretty disappointed. Yes they look better than the standard T3PA pedals. But I can honestly say they don't feel at all different when driving. So anyone thinking of upgrading I would save your money and stick with the standard version
     
  11. LeonSuetfeld

    LeonSuetfeld Alien

    I think if the rig has the right holes you just need to put the pedals on, find the right position, and screw things in, no?

    Wait, what? the Playseat pedal plate bends because of the weight? Oh dear...

    Well, there's still modability ;)
     
  12. LeonSuetfeld

    LeonSuetfeld Alien

    oh right, update from my side: So the mechanism looks to be quite sturdy. However, the springs I got are way to strong, so I just ordered a second set (rather expensive). I can't really get the sharp angle in resting position between the rods and arms, because with the springs in place they will flip over. With a more obtuse angle, the initial force is higher with a greater fall-off, so not really ideal.
     
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  13. Gulf917K

    Gulf917K Racer

    Update!
    I tinkered with new pedals and rig most of yesterday. And finally sorted it to a degree that I am quite happy with now!
    I put the pedals back to F1 configuration. Which to be honest I prefer anyway. The metal frame that is used for GT config
    I inverted. So it is now a very strong support for front of base. Now it is rock solid, and does not flex at all under heavy braking!
    Also found the perfect driving position. And because the pedals are a bit further from the central post on playseat evo. I can now toe and heel to my hearts content without catching my foot!
    Also sold my standard pedals, so recouped some money.
    So all in all, a much happier bunny than I was yesterday!:)

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  14. anything-but

    anything-but Guest

    Only difference with the pro vs the normal T3PAs's is the metal construction and the ability to invert 'em. To get any *real* improvement in braking ability , your going to have to shell out the pennies for Fanatec and above. :)
     
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  15. Azfalt Raser

    Azfalt Raser Rookie

    So the T3PA's have increased resistance near the end of the brake pedal travel? Or does it just end at the plastic stop like Logitechs.

    The Logitechs had the same amount of resistance all through it's travel until it hit the plastic stops (very weak). In some T3PA reviews, I thought I read that they were similar to logitechs in that respect.

    The Pro's with the conical brake mode "feels" like it has resistance that you can modulate better because of the increasing resistance as you get to the rubber cone under the brake pedal. It feels more natural in that I am increasing my leg pressure on the brake pedal, the harder I brake, and then modulating with my foot - like in a real car. Whereas the logitech, I am using only my foot, pivoting at my ankle, with very little force because there was so little resistance.

    If the T3PA and the PROs feel identical, then I would have bought the T3PAs.
     
  16. Graveltrap

    Graveltrap Alien

    The T3PA also come with the conical brake mod ;)
     
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  17. Gulf917K

    Gulf917K Racer

    They both come with the conical brake mod!!
    So to simplify. They are the same but one is plastic and the other metal!:cool:
     
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  18. Azfalt Raser

    Azfalt Raser Rookie

    Well darn. I was misled.
    Thanks for the clarification.
     
  19. LeonSuetfeld

    LeonSuetfeld Alien

    btw. I have to postpone the video for two weeks, as I'd like to do it properly and not rushed. I have to revise my calculations I think, and I'll be out of town for a week.
     
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  20. Gulf917K

    Gulf917K Racer

    Waiting with baited breath Leon!:)
     
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