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Too hardcore for its own good/sales?

Discussion in 'Chit Chat Room' started by richard thompson, May 22, 2014.

  1. Hi folks love this game its the best race sim ive played handsdown .But one things bothers me . The cars setups . I know it adds depth having to set the car up to suit your driving style , but if your no good at setups it can put a dampener on things. Case in point im ok with the m3 gt2 and love it ,got it setup up nicely and so was looking forwards to the z4 gt3 , when i first drove the z4 gt3 it felt like a slow boat :oops: and i couldnt set it up and so left it . Only a few days ago to race online did i try some setups from members i found a good one and tweaked it and now i like the z4 gt3 as opposed to before hating it lol. My point for a non sim racer will this put them off this game (thus affecting sales), should kunos have some default setups like a high speed track setup and a technical track setup and have some kind of tutorial which can help people with this issue ? :D
     
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  3. cunnu79

    cunnu79 Racer

    You could make leagues with all drivers with base setups...in Iracing they do similar things, they lock them to base...but who knows, maybe Kunos will provide an option for servers to lock setups to base ones...never say never...
     
    Last edited: May 22, 2014
  4. Turk

    Turk Alien

    Learning setups is something I keep putting off, I know how all the settings affect the car in theory but I've never spent a day putting it all into practice. I can still do quite well at races though, I can still put up a challenge because there are a lot of people like us that don't have the time or inclination to dedicate to setups.

    More important than set ups is being able to put in consistent fast laps and that's just down to practice. I think spending an hour driving around the track at speed will do you more favours than spending an hour making a set up without having a decent amount of laps under your belt.

    I don't think I really need to worry about setups until I'm tempted to do a league, until then I'm happy battling it out in the mid pack, it's more fun there anyway.
     
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  5. cooknn

    cooknn Hardcore Simmer

    Just so you know, the default setups in these cars are the "Factory" setups - even for the race cars. Should be a pretty good baseline if you want to learn how to tweak.
     
  6. Im not so bothered about the racing aspect its just for beginners to get the most out of the game .
     
  7. Oh my lord wont be buying a zonda r now :eek::D
     
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  8. cunnu79

    cunnu79 Racer

    Specially when you overtake a Mclaren gt3 with a Lotus gtc:p
     
  9. Mogster

    Mogster Alien

    If absolute sales were the only thing Kunos were after then they'd have made a racing game or first person shooter.

    I hope Kunos do provide options like locked setups, but really if you drive the road cars there's not a huge amount of tweaking that can be done.
     
  10. cobra188d

    cobra188d Gamer

    I'm not great at setups either, but I don't know how many times I've started a multiplayer race in mid or back of the pack and ended up in the top three. Be consistent and you'll do well. Plus, watching the cars in front of you flying through the air in the first turn is pretty funny.... :)
     
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  11. Here, the only change I make it is the Gear Ratio according to the Track. Apart of it, the setups are really good.
     
  12. LeSunTzu

    LeSunTzu Alien

    +1 The only thing you actually need to set up is the final gear. That is easy even for a beginner.
     
  13. mangal

    mangal Hardcore Simmer

    This thread is about something different than I expected from the title, actually. Setups don't make that much of a difference. I wonder more whether it is too hardcore for many casual drivers or newbies. I don't really need to win, and enjoy driving the Lotus GTC, but had a number of races with people where the differential was enormous. Like 5-10 secs/lap difference.

    I am not fast by any means, and after 5-6 months of racing AC I am usually 5 secs off of RSR WR, but I am beating drivers in McL GT3 and Z4 GT3 cars online by big margins, and even wait from time to time for drivers to catch up.

    I actually managed to lap a car in an 8 lap Monza race, and that was with waiting for #2...

    As I said, I don't mind, I am more into the driving than winning, but could imagine it could be a bit discouraging if you're doing the best you can, and you get beat 5-10 secs a lap... Some of that is people not being able to keep it on track, but a lot of it is simply poor driving and lack of practice (I know, I was like that just a few months ago).

    Starting to wonder whether some sort of match making based on hotlap times or something might not be a bad idea, so that people of somewhat equally strength are racing together. It's more fun when it is close.
     
  14. Gavin

    Gavin Rookie

    If you suck at setting cars up then just download others from RSR or Racedept and try them out. You are bound to find something for each car to use as a baseline and then tweak to your style for each track. Locking cars to baseline setups wouldn't work for most cars in this game as most stock setups are awful. Take the lotus S1 for example.
     
  15. GeraArg

    GeraArg Simracer

  16. Snarffu

    Snarffu Racer

    In my experience by the time setups are making any real difference to your pace on track you are no longer a new player.
     
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  17. LeSunTzu

    LeSunTzu Alien

    You can easily win races when you are 1 second slower than other guys. I won several against obviously faster players and lost some to obviously slower players. This is not formula 1, people make mistakes, a lot of mistakes even during short races of 5-7 laps.

    With that in mind, there is little point in looking for the perfect setup that will get you 0.5 secs on a perfect lap that you will never be able to repeat during a whole race.
     
  18. Turk

    Turk Alien

    The only race I won was because everyone ahead of me crashed. I was about 0.3s off their pace.
     
  19. Shaddix

    Shaddix Alien

    In every game you need to setup classes/cars/whatever u can think off.
    If the playerbase doesnt want to do it, its odd from them.
    Even in CoD you need to spent little time for the classes to get the best combo out of it.
    Playing with presetted classes wont fit u 100%.

    So if you dislike some work, you are wrong - bye.
     
  20. Shrubbo

    Shrubbo Simracer

    I think this sums it up from my perspective.
     
  21. Backmarker

    Backmarker Racer

    AC has plenty of driving assists to make cars easier to drive. you can combine those with turning down the AI so it is easier to race against them. It is not essential to know how to setup cars to enjoy the game.
    :)
     
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