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PHYSICS Tyres! oh... it's raining...

Discussion in 'ACC Blog' started by Aristotelis, Sep 6, 2018.

  1. D.Jankovic

    D.Jankovic Alien

    I thought i was going crazy also :D noticed that also.

    But idk what could affect that..could be server thing with track status being gripy even when it shoudnt be etc. So i did not bother reporting it

    Edit: Aris also what i noticed while runing wet tires and they were red on hud app while runing the dry track i did not spin out at all tires were still griping i did not check how slow i was but still on slicks a bit of yellow on hud app and car goes crazy :)
    Last edited: Mar 25, 2019
  2. Erik Frisen

    Erik Frisen Gamer

    Yes but everything else is slippery, cornering and throttling is like it should but braking is somehow barely effected by the weather and tire compound. It is also like this in offline so there must be something else.
  3. D.Jankovic

    D.Jankovic Alien

    Best would be to open a bug report thread and see what they say
    LeDude83 likes this.
  4. Mitja Bonca

    Mitja Bonca Alien

    :) :) So much fun. Last lap was after chequered flag.
  5. Mitja Bonca

    Mitja Bonca Alien

    And this is what ACC needs :)
    eRacer212 likes this.
  6. iVG

    iVG Alien

    Was that from the race last night?
  7. Mitja Bonca

    Mitja Bonca Alien

  8. iVG

    iVG Alien

    @Mitja Bonca watching the 3 hr race in the wet Monza now, I see that people are doing 2:03 only leaders going sub 2:03. Here's the timing also stream available on youtube

    Rain has pretty much stopped and even though there are some 46 cars on track, track is still very much wet after more than 20 minutes racing. Also times seem to be a good 10 seconds off of what we would get in AC for similar conditions. Definitely something wrong with ACC wet grip.
  9. Mitja Bonca

    Mitja Bonca Alien

    Watching already :)
    Bortolotti in its own class.

    and this things happen to:
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  10. iVG

    iVG Alien

    Yeah definitely much much slower than what you'd expect in ACC. We would be on slick by this point.... Undeniably damp conditions are off in ACC
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  11. sirgaric

    sirgaric Hardcore Simmer

    You need to take into account the really low temperatures there, and the absence of any sunlight hitting the track.
  12. martcerv

    martcerv Alien

    Was about 6c ambient 5c track at the start of the race I think. We dont actually have in game temps visoble in the current build. But if you run a wet track and much higher temps it would dry out much quicker and slicks would work much better with more chance of getting some temp into them.
  13. sirgaric

    sirgaric Hardcore Simmer

    The minimum temperature you can set ingame is 10c. At least in Monza. Also, we can't control humidity, it was around 99% this morning.
  14. Axel Vogelsang

    Axel Vogelsang Simracer

    Yeah all in all the laptimes in real life are way slower in these conditions as in ACC. Today was a good reference though. Would be nice to see a bit of an alignment in ACC within one of the future updates.
  15. sirgaric

    sirgaric Hardcore Simmer

    I'm sure corrections will be made, but you can't really compare this race with what we have in ACC since weather conditions can't even be replicated in the game!
  16. Epistolarius

    Epistolarius Alien

    Which is the point? You should be able to since that's the sim's purpose.

    Lower temperatures than ACC allows is one point.

    Then there were super slick wet conditions in qualifying even after the rain let off, which doesn't seem to be a thing in ACC unless you set very high wetness without rain as custom weather. And even then kerbs, painted surfaces and the oily rubber on the racing line don't seem to make much of a difference.

    The wettest settings for weather in ACC are pretty difficult to drive but it does seem that - naturally - the system needs some further adjusting.
  17. Axel Vogelsang

    Axel Vogelsang Simracer

    Might be that the different conditions compensate some seconds but we have multiple examples now which show that you are much faster in the wet in ACC compared to real life.
    Nahkamarakatti likes this.
  18. sirgaric

    sirgaric Hardcore Simmer

    I didn't say the system doesn't need to be adjusted. I just said today's race can't be used as a comparison because conditions were a bit extreme. But I'm sure ACC staff took a lot of data from today's race and will use it to make ACC better :)
    Luca Zari likes this.
  19. iVG

    iVG Alien

    Conditions weren't at all extreme. The rain stopped before the race started and an hour into the race - there's still wetness everywhere even though there aren't any puddles on the racing line due to water being kicked out by the 40+ cars. That's not far off of 10C and damp track on ACC. Yeah, a few degrees lower maybe? 7C instead of 10C? Okay cool. Now explain how I can lap sub 1:55 on damp Monza pretty much on slicks vs. 2:00+ lap times on wets. Please try replicate it in ACC and you'll see how much easier it is to drive even on slicks when the rain has stopped and just after a few laps you can slap on the slicks.

    Here's an example of how no raining it was:

    Go to 2:27:50

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  20. Luca Zari

    Luca Zari Racer

    My observations: when the track was rubberized the day before and the next day it rains, the track becomes very slippery in trajectory.
    8 degrees can drastically lower the grip if the use tires range is at the limit.
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