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v1.0 BoP Discussion

Discussion in 'ACC General Discussions' started by Chriss, May 30, 2019.

  1. Chriss

    Chriss Racer

    Let's use this thread to discuss Balance of Performance (BoP) in v 1.o

    Here are my results with the cars that interested me most. I will add the others later on.

    Session: Practice
    Conditions: clear, track optimal, 12:00pm, ~30 degrees track temperature
    Cars: standard "Aggressive" preset with 62l of fuel

    I drove 4 fast laps with each car, trying to find a comfortable race pace (not interested in finding the "best possible" quali lap time).


    1) Monza


    2) Brands Hatch

    Brands Hatch.png

    3) Paul Ricard

    Paul Ricard.png

    4) Nurburgring


    5) Misano


    6) Spa Francorchamps


    7) Hungaroring


    8) Zolder


    9) Barcelona Circuit de Catalunya


    Am curious for your times and observations :)
    Last edited: Jun 5, 2019
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  3. Chriss

    Chriss Racer

    Brands Hatch updated.

    Com‘on guys, what‘s your take on v1.0 BoP? I do know your‘re sneakingly putting together much more diligent pace comparisons than I did :D
  4. ▣ HiTzz

    ▣ HiTzz Gamer

    porsche fastest in straights? wat, why i thought its the slower one but with decent handling? I havent tried that much of new cars but i still find bmw m6 the most comfortable car, maybe because i have ~70h of gameplay with it.
  5. ▣ HiTzz

    ▣ HiTzz Gamer

    oops my bad it still seems fast
  6. Is there a list somewhere for what tracks get what BoP? I forgot to write it down when I came across it a few months ago.

    Anyhow I did run a few pace comparisons around the Hungaroring yesterday, didn't record my lap times however. I found the Lexus and NSX to be the fastest out of the new cars for me at the circuit, the Ferrari is still the fastest overall for me but that's because of the old hotlap event. The Lexus has very nice brakes and a very pointy nose, a bit on-edge coming out of corners but it's manageable. The NSX is really lacking in braking performance, but it's very stable through the corners and lets me push hard.
    I also ran laps at Spa yesterday with all the cars, found the 911 GT3 to be the fastest around there (putting in 2:20s consistently).

    I'll try to write down times for the circuits I try with all the new cars.
  7. Epistolarius

    Epistolarius Alien

    Maybe because it doesn't have as much aero as some of the others.
  8. R1-Limited

    R1-Limited Racer

    Certainly glad to see these numbers, just means I am in the hunt and can try to get better.
  9. DHMoto

    DHMoto Gamer

    Not that it's a clear indication of BoP, but in a few AI races I've done the NSX is always bringing up the rear. Don't know if it was just luck of the draw each time or if it operates in AI at a disadvantage as an AM car.
  10. Poguinhas

    Poguinhas Alien

    Aris has already said the NSX is an uncompetitive car. He said we should wait for the EVO version with the 2019 update, which solves the issues on the original car and is actually good.
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  11. fsuarez79

    fsuarez79 Simracer

    I've been doing very similar BoP test but using the Hotlap session....Noon, Optimal track and clear conditions and aggressive default setup as well.
    I'm really impressed with the BoP so far. My times are in red. Haven't tried Brands Hatch tho and times in the old cars were pre v1.0.

    2) Monza (lap time and average top speed)
    Porsche 911 GT3: 1.49.6 (272) 1:49.7
    Mercedes AMG: 1.49.3 (271) 1:49.6
    Audi R8 GT3: 1.49.3 (273) 1:50.0
    Lambo GT3: 1.49.3 (275) 1:49.4
    Bentley (18): 1.50.2 (267)
    McLaren GT3: 1.49.5 (273) 1:50.0
    Ferrari 1:49.9
    Jaguar 1:49.4
    Bentley (16) 1:49.7
    GT-R (18) 1:49.8
    BMW 1:49.6

    Looks like you and I would have some fun racing each other ;)
    Last edited: May 31, 2019
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  12. PiretSS2000

    PiretSS2000 Racer

    There's like 4-5 BoPs in the blacpain, so only a track is not representative of it ;)
  13. Chriss

    Chriss Racer

    Monza updated, Aston Martin added.

    So today's morning was like: get up early, eat 5min white bread breakfast, hug wife goodbye (she needs to work today), go fire-up ACC :D:D
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  14. FelixR1991

    FelixR1991 Simracer

    I'm benchmarking on Misano, have a file/spreadsheet at home with exact numbers, but the Audi and Ferrari run fastest for me. The Audi however is very unstable at the rear.

    Overall, the new Bentley is by far overpowered, I expect a nerf like they did with the BMW to be incoming.
  15. Don't compare these times to the OP's, my methodology is different. I'm running the default Safe Setup for all cars, and track conditions are Optimal (5 PM).

    Circuit Paul Ricard lap times:
    Audi R8 LMS - 1:56.457 (video)
    Ferrari 488 - 1:56.028 (video) Reached 281 km/h on the Mistral straight, highest of all cars I tested.
    Mercedes AMG - 1:57.064
    Porsche 911 GT3 - 1:57.522
    Acura NSX - 1:57.924
    Lexus RC F - 1:56.751
    Jaguar G3 - 1:57.504
    V12 Vantage - 1:57.864
    Bentley Continental 2018 - 1:57.237 (Is faster but driving on the right hand side throws me off)
    BMW M6 - 1:55.662 (Old hotlap event gave me plenty of practice prior to this lap)
    Nissan GTR 2018 - 1:57.459 (1:57.499 video) Was a fun lap, had to really try for this one.
    McLaren 650S - 1:58.167 (Struggled with this one, almost feels like a car of a different class)
    Huracan GT3 - 1:56.133 (video)
    Last edited: May 31, 2019
  16. Chriss

    Chriss Racer

    cool stuff @Hexadecimator! May I compile your times into a spreadsheet and put in the first post as well? While the method is different, we still see some interesting things (that the NSX is indeed slow, that the Ferrari is competitive in current BoP, ...).

    With @FelixR1991 times for Misano (please post them once you get home :)), we'll soon have some nice data for many different tracks. Not objective data, but still nice data.
  17. Sure thing, go ahead.
    The NSX is pretty good through the tighter corners and is pretty stable as well (maybe because it's underpowered?). The only thing holding it back for me are the brakes...
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  18. Diablo_rf

    Diablo_rf Hardcore Simmer

    I'm doing the testing in Catalunya, will post my results when I'll finish.
    Planing on doing two tracks testing, Catalunya and Spa. (to udentify the best cornering cars, and the best high speed track cars)
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  19. Chriss

    Chriss Racer

    Awesome mate!! Let me know when you're done and I can add your times to the first post.

    I'm gonna do Nurburgring next
  20. tw1st

    tw1st Racer

    Credits to you guys! Thank you very much for your time/work!
  21. Rioku

    Rioku Racer

    I´ll have a try

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