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Generic Weekly Hotlap #88 - German efficiency runs like a swiss clock

Discussion in 'Console Lounge' started by Hugo Catarino, Jul 15, 2018.

  1. Hugo Catarino

    Hugo Catarino Hardcore Simmer

    Welcome to the thread for the Weekly Hotlap #88: German effiency runs like a swiss clock

    The Challenge.


    Car: Mercedes-Benz C9 1989 LM
    Track: RedBull Ring

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    The story of this car is like two convergent roads coming closer and closer until they meet and become one.So, there are 3 parts in the story of this legendary group C beast.

    Part 1 - Sauber
    Once upon a time (early '70s) a young buissness man from Switzerland called Peter Sauber decided to start his own racing team to race prototype cars. His first prototype - the C1 - ran in the Swiss SportsCar Championship and it was a success - what better way to start your career in team managment than to win the first championship you enter?
    Many cars followed the C1 (always with a "C" in the beggining, to honor Sauber's wife Christine - a much better wedding gift than a simple diamon ring in my opinion! - ,and a number in the end.So,we have the C1,C2,C3,and the list goes on... ).
    With great success,comes bigger dreams. So,the story of how Sauber entered in the endurance world starts with the C5 at Le Mans in 1977 and 1978 season using a BMW engine. A few years forward and we are in the 80's Group C regulations, completly dominated by Porsche and the infernal 956/962. Sauber knew his cars were good, but the engines not so much.Facing financial issues,we sold this only car left and started to work on a seemingless dead-from-the-start project - the C8, a car without an engine supplier.

    Part 2 - Mercedes
    1955, tragedy at Le Mans, with more than 80 spectators dying from a crash envolving a Mercedes. The german team withdrew middle race, never to race again,they promissed. But 30 years later,they decided to return, even if it wasn't with an official teams - some of the wounds from 30 years ago were not healed yet.They just had to find a good and promissing team to supply engines, and that would be good enough...at leats for that time period.

    Part 3- Sauber Mercedes
    And,just like two lovers found themselfs by randomly crashing against eachother in the middle of the street,Sauber and Mercedes found eachother.One needed an engine,the other needed a team- a macth made in heaven!
    The C8 did well enough, but Sauber already had plans for it's improvment - the C9.Still, despite a couple of highlights, the car did only good enough to not shame anyone, but it wasn't great enough for Mercedes, so the decided to put more money and invested more in the swiss team.Results: brilliant championship in 1988 with 5 victories, losing only to Jaguar. Still, not good enough. Also,they didn't ran at Le Mans that year (safety issues due to a tyre bursting in practice. 1955 wounds,always around).
    So, it comes 1989 and with it the new V8 M199, generating +750 bhp and 380 km/h, perfect for the long straights of La Sarthe.A silver arrow was back on track (literally,because that year they decided to return to the old metallic livery, instead of the black livery they were using in previous years).
    And...they won quite easily.Both Mercedes got the first two positins, both Mercedes ended in the first two positions. The story had a happy ending,and the partnership continued for some more time. The next model, the C11, became famous because it helped in introducing one of the most legendary drivers in history,a young german driver by the name of Michael Schumacher...

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    I had amazing fun at this track a couple of months ago, using a Porsche 962c Long Tail. I was going for that combo, but the 962 short tail has been used before, and the Sauber is the only group C car left.
    Its quite the challenge! The turbo, combined with an oversteery car, makes it difficult to go around in some parts of this track. Huge trottle control will be needed here, aswell pure handling and instint skills. Nonetheless, it's one of my favourite combos: Group C and RedBull Ring go well with eachother, just like Sauber and Mercedes!

    The Rules.

    Mode: Hotlap
    Time of day: Free
    Ambient Temp: 26 Degrees
    Setup: Free
    Controller: Free
    Assists: Factory
    Stability: Free

    If it isn't mentioned here then assume the setting is free.

    Please make sure you have the ambient temperature set correctly, and that you are in hotlap mode, I really don't like disallowing times!

    The Deadline.
    Sunday July 22th 2018 - 23:00 GMT.

    How to take part!
    To enter simply head into the game select Drive > Hotlap and choose the Mercedes-Benz C9 1989 LM and head to RedBull Ring Make sure you setup the session using the settings detailed in this thread and hit the track!

    You can run as many laps as you like and update your times as often as you like, its simple :) All Platforms are welcome, it is all about having fun and enjoying Assetto Corsa.

    To submit a time, pause the game and select 'session' from the menu and screenshot this page or take a photo of your screen and post it in this thread - Note all the information from the screen is required including temperature, mode heading and of course the car being used!

    Feel free to post video clips and share information in here as well, but without the session screen your time will not be included (placing the session screen in a video clip is acceptable).

    You also need to state the time and your platform in the body of your post, this should be the first thing you do, the image should then be placed below the text. It would also be helpful to mark updated times with Improvement. This makes collating the results much easier.Also,to avoid mistakes on laptimes,please enter them with the format x.xx.xxx. This format makes it easier to work with Excell.
    A leader board will be collated from time to time, this will keep everyone up to date on where they currently stand...Unfortunately editing of posts gets locked on this forum so this post will not be updated.

    Feel free to use the unofficial leaderboard but remember you still need to include the session screen in this thread to be included in the results.

    Good luck and have fun ;)

    Weekly Hotlap History

    1. Mugello - Praga R1
    2. Imola - Mercedes SLS GT3
    3. Brands Hatch GP - RUF RT12
    4. Magione - Lotus 2 Eleven
    5. Silverstone International - Abarth 500 Assetto Corse
    6. Zandvoort - Pagani Huayra
    7. Nurburgring GP (GT) - Alfa Romeo 155 V6 TI
    8. Spa - BMW M3 GT2
    9. Vallelunga Club - KTM X-Bow R
    10. Barcelona - Moto - Shelby Cobra 427 S/C
    11. Silverstone 1967 - Lotus 72D
    12. Nordschleife - Porsche 911 Carrera S
    13. Black Cat County - Ferrari LaFerrari
    14. Monza Junior 1966 - Alfa Romeo GTA
    15. Redbull Ring GP - Lamborghini Gallardo Sl
    16. Zandvoort - Ford Escort RS1600
    17. Imola - Mazda Rx-7 Spirit R
    18. Brands Hatch GP - Lotus Exige V6 Cup
    19. Monza - Ferrari FXX K
    20. Barcelona - Moto - Ferrari 488 GT3
    21. Mugello - Alfa Romeo Giulietta QV
    22. Silverstone GP - Porsche 911 GT3 Cup 2017
    23. Nurburgring Sprint GT - Toyota AE86 Tuned
    24. Magione - Maserati Levante S
    25. Spa - Lotus 98T
    26. Vallelunga - Classic - Porsche 935/78 "Moby Dick"
    27. Nordschleife Endurance Cup - M235i Racing
    28. Silverstone 1967 - Maserati 250F T2 12C
    29. Red Bull Ring National - BMW 1M
    30. Zandvoort - Lotus Evora GX
    31. Barcelona GP - Lotus Exos 125 Stage 1
    32. Brands Hatch Indy - Toyota Supra MKIV Time Attack
    33. Black Cat County Long - Lamborghini Countach
    34. Imola - Mercedes Benz 190E Evo II
    35. Monza - Chevrolet Corvette C7R
    36. Nurburgring Sprint GT - BMW M3 E30
    37. Magione - Mercedes SLS AMG
    38. Spa - Porsche 917/30 Spyder
    39. Silverstone GP - Nissan GT-R Nismo
    40. RedBull Ring GP - Alfa Romeo 4c
    41. Brands Hatch GP - Audi R8 LMS Ultra
    42. Highlands Long - Ford GT40
    43. Vallelunga - Lotus GTE Carbon
    44. Zandvoort - Porsche 911 Turbo S
    45. Nordschleife - Ferrari 312T
    46. Mugello - BMW M3 E92
    47. Black Cat County - Short - Ford Mustang 2015
    48. Imola - Maserati MC12 GT1
    49. Silverstone 1967 - Porsche 911 Carrera RSR 3.0
    50. Barcelona Moto - McLaren 570S
    51. Magione - Mazda Miata NA
    52. Spa - Ferrari F40
    53. Vallelunga - Corvette C7 Stingray
    54. Brands Hatch GP - Tatuus FA01
    55. Highlands - Lotus 3 eleven
    56. Nurburgring GP (GT) - Toyota Celica ST185 4WD Turbo
    57. Monza 1966 Full Course - Ferrari 312/67
    58. Nordschleife - Porsche 962 C Short Tail
    59. Zandvoort- Nissan 370Z Nismo
    60. Silverstone GP - McLaren F1
    61. Vallelunga Classic - Ferrari 250GTO
    62. Imola - Lotus 98T
    63. Highlands Drift - P4/5 Competizione
    64. Mugello - Lamborghini Aventador SV
    65. Spa - Porsche 911R
    66. Black Cat County - Lotus 2-Eleven GT4
    67. Barcelona GP - Ferrari SF70H
    68. Nordschleife Endurance & Highlands - Porsche 917k
    69. Zandvoort - Lotus Exige Scura
    70. RedBull Ring National - Maserati Alfieri
    71. Laguna Seca - Audi Sport quattro S1 E2
    72. Brands Hatch - Mclaren P1
    73. Imola - Porsche 911 RSR
    74. Nurburgring GP - Ferrari F2004
    75. Barcelona Moto - Lamborghini Huracan Performante
    76. Silverstone 1967 - Alfa Romeo 33 Stradale
    77. Magione - BMW 1M Stage 3
    78. Highlands Long - Mazda 787b
    79. Black Cat County - Toyota GT86
    80. Spa - Toyota TS040 Hybrid
    81. Vallelunga Classic - Nissan Skyline R34 V-Spec
    82. Mugello - Ferrari 458 GT2
    83. Silverstone International - RUF R12 R AWD
    84. Highlands Long - Audi R18 e-tron quattro 2014
    85. Monza - Pagani Zonda R
    86. Nordschleife - Lotus 3-eleven
    87. Zandvoort - Maserati GranTurismo MC GT4
     


  2. Tibor Sólyom

    Tibor Sólyom Hardcore Simmer

    OMG, what a nice one I must skip, I love this car! We go to holiday on Friday for a week so next weekend I can do some laps out of competition :(
    I think I never tried this combo, very curious...
     
  3. StyleF1re

    StyleF1re Hardcore Simmer

    1.27.943 / PS4

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    This one's very frustrating... Just how I like it!

    But seriously, making it through the first turn without spinning or wrecking feels like an achievement, let alone the rest of the turns. This thing is straight business on 100% turbo!
     
  4. the3ws

    the3ws Hardcore Simmer

    This car is a real handful. The turbo is insane. Even in a straight line the thing wants to kill you. Getting on the power exiting corners is a challenge, it feels like I'm waiting ages before I can get to full throttle.
     
  5. Lewisxbone

    Lewisxbone Alien

    1.25.405 - X1X

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    Gonna take some getting used to this car.
    Nice combo again Hugo
     
  6. Lewisxbone

    Lewisxbone Alien

    Improvement

    1.24.540 - X1X

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    Last edited: Jul 16, 2018
  7. Lewisxbone

    Lewisxbone Alien

    Improvement

    1.24.226 - X1X

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  8. sissydriver

    sissydriver Alien

    1:29, 722 pc

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    out of the box - nice!!!

    now its time to use a better setup ;)
     
  9. sissydriver

    sissydriver Alien

    1:27,695 pc improvement

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    soft tyres and turbo 70% - much better :)

    now its time to improve the driving and fiddle around with tyre pressure and other setup parameters. what a nice combo. well done hugo!!!
     
  10. sissydriver

    sissydriver Alien

    1:26,404 pc improvement

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    hit the wall again. 30min really intense racing-phew! :p
     
  11. moodyryder

    moodyryder Hardcore Simmer

    Ouch. Getting this thing out of those slow corners will be difficult. Red Bull isn't a favourite of mine but I shall give it a go in good faith. This would have been an epic car to use on the old Osterreichring circuit, not an option unfortunately on consoles.

    So many circuits neutered these days. I understand why and that's not a debate for here. What I would have loved to have seen would have been an Assetto Corsa historic title. Project Cars seems to have embraced that side of things with Spa and Le Mans; I suppose at least we have Monza & Silverstone on A.C.

    I guess the Pc's have mods that include all the old circuits, so the answer is clear. It's not a route I'll be taking however.
     
  12. Andy-R

    Andy-R Alien

    1.22.227 - Andy-R - PC
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    Big gains to be had in a car like this I'm sure. A bit downforcey for me :p


    Yeah there is some terrific classic content for AC on PC to name a few outstanding mods Bridgehampton and Riverside by LilSki, Thomson Road GP and Feldbergring by Fat-Alfie and Donington 1938 by Jim Lloyd

    Check out this video I made at Feldbergring (it shows off a few cool PC mods) I'll hide it behind a spoiler thingy as this isn't really the place. Best served with plenty of volume!
     
  13. lemans86400

    lemans86400 Racer

    Hello guys! I already see some crazy laptimes here :) Let my join in with my much slower 1.33.523
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  14. lemans86400

    lemans86400 Racer

    ah, i forgot the platform, PS4

     
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  15. Lewisxbone

    Lewisxbone Alien

    Improvement

    1.23.877 - X1X

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  16. sissydriver

    sissydriver Alien

    1:25,711 pc improvement

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    pedal to the metal? - no way.....really difficult o_O
     
  17. sissydriver

    sissydriver Alien

    1:25,394 pc improvement

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    from overcast to hot - first attempt faster!:cool:

    placebo?:eek:

    dunno. today its enough. pheeew....what a ride..... :p
     
  18. Neilski

    Neilski Hardcore Simmer

    Neilski - PC - 1.24.209
    JFC, this car is a monster!!! I can see how maybe another second can be gained (probably not by me) but I'm in awe of Andy's 1:22.
    I took quite a while to work up to full turbo, and I still think I might be quicker if I reduce it a bit... LOL.
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  19. Andy-R

    Andy-R Alien

    Giving it long gears (especially lowest 2) can help get the power down quite a bit. I have mine geared to do 12x mph in 2nd and am only using 4gears. Based on RSR I think I end up with lower top speed but great traction in 2nd gear :)
     
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  20. sissydriver

    sissydriver Alien

    @Andy - outstanding time. my deepest respect! :)
     
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