Generic Weekly Hotlap #92 - Ancient Technology

Welcome to the thread for the Weekly Hotlap #92 - Ancient Technology

The Challenge.

Car: Porsche 908 LH
Track: Monza 1966 - Road Corse




One of my all time favourites! I'm still so glad to see it in a game!

The Porsche 908 is one of the most legendary names in the history of motorsport. However, the LH variant doesn't share the glow and glory of his brothers 908/02 and 908/3, those famous little matchboxes that won the Targa Florio and the Nurb 1000km. The most famous moment of the LH?Losing the 1969 24h Le Mans by almost 2 seconds.But, there is much more to this car than just that foto of it a few meters behind the John Wyer's GT40 on Frace.
In September 1968, Porshe presented the LH to the world at Le Mans (the race was held in September due to national strikes in France in July) and the car almost didn't race at all. The reason?Well, Porsche was using rear flaps that,once the driver braked the car, they would rise to help in the braking. They were considered ilegal but after Ferdinand Piech protested against this, the race officials let the 908 into the grid.
The LH was a car built for fast circuits like La Sarthe and Monza, so this car doesn't have a long racing history. The smaller L variant raced with some sucess (victory at Sap in 1969),but the long tailed version LH is mostly famous for that 1969 Le Mans finish. It would also serve as base for developing a certain car that the world would know as Porsche 917...
This boy is not at all easy to handle! Foget about the flaps, they don't make for poor brakes that don't do much in slowing down the car. And it's a very stiff vehicle; not easy to go around turns and twichty tracks. It's an arrow made to go flat out straights, and in that part does it's job very very well.As it should: don't think less of this car because it only has 350 bhp; it only weights 680kg, which makes it a rocket.




We kinda have the unspoke rule of "classic cars=classic tracks", right? I decided to not brake that rule (for now, there are 2 more classic cars, perhaps 3, that i want to bring to the WHL in the near future) since Monza is the ideal for this car to be fully enjoyed, well, pack your bags and head to Italy! Why not to use the oval section aswell, since this car raced there? I truly was going to, but i feared for the guys using wheels,i'm told the FFB is insane The road version is fun too,less distance to race = more laps and chances to improve!


The Rules.
Mode: Hotlap
Time of day: Free
Ambient Temp: 26 Degrees
Setup: Free
Controller: Free
Assists: Factory
Stability: Free

If it isn't mentioned here then assume the setting is free.

Please make sure you have the ambient temperature set correctly, and that you are in hotlap mode, I really don't like disallowing times!

The Deadline.
Sunday August 19th 2018 - 21:00 GMT.

How to take part!
To enter simply head into the game select Drive > Hotlap and choose the Porsche 908 LH and head to Monza 1966 - Road Course. Make sure you setup the session using the settings detailed in this thread and hit the track!

You can run as many laps as you like and update your times as often as you like, its simple All Platforms are welcome, it is all about having fun and enjoying Assetto Corsa.

To submit a time, pause the game and select 'session' from the menu and screenshot this page or take a photo of your screen and post it in this thread - Note all the information from the screen is required including temperature, mode heading and of course the car being used!

Feel free to post video clips and share information in here as well, but without the session screen your time will not be included (placing the session screen in a video clip is acceptable).

You also need to state the time and your platform in the body of your post, this should be the first thing you do, the image should then be placed below the text. It would also be helpful to mark updated times with Improvement. This makes collating the results much easier.Also,to avoid mistakes on laptimes,please enter them with the format x.xx.xxx. This format makes it easier to work with Excell.
A leader board will be collated from time to time, this will keep everyone up to date on where they currently stand...Unfortunately editing of posts gets locked on this forum so this post will not be updated.

Feel free to use the unofficial leaderboard but remember you still need to include the session screen in this thread to be included in the results.

Good luck and have fun

Weekly Hotlap History

1. Mugello - Praga R1
2. Imola - Mercedes SLS GT3
3. Brands Hatch GP - RUF RT12
4. Magione - Lotus 2 Eleven
5. Silverstone International - Abarth 500 Assetto Corse
6. Zandvoort - Pagani Huayra
7. Nurburgring GP (GT) - Alfa Romeo 155 V6 TI
8. Spa - BMW M3 GT2
9. Vallelunga Club - KTM X-Bow R
10. Barcelona - Moto - Shelby Cobra 427 S/C
11. Silverstone 1967 - Lotus 72D
12. Nordschleife - Porsche 911 Carrera S
13. Black Cat County - Ferrari LaFerrari
14. Monza Junior 1966 - Alfa Romeo GTA
15. Redbull Ring GP - Lamborghini Gallardo Sl
16. Zandvoort - Ford Escort RS1600
17. Imola - Mazda Rx-7 Spirit R
18. Brands Hatch GP - Lotus Exige V6 Cup
19. Monza - Ferrari FXX K
20. Barcelona - Moto - Ferrari 488 GT3
21. Mugello - Alfa Romeo Giulietta QV
22. Silverstone GP - Porsche 911 GT3 Cup 2017
23. Nurburgring Sprint GT - Toyota AE86 Tuned
24. Magione - Maserati Levante S
25. Spa - Lotus 98T
26. Vallelunga - Classic - Porsche 935/78 "Moby Dick"
27. Nordschleife Endurance Cup - M235i Racing
28. Silverstone 1967 - Maserati 250F T2 12C
29. Red Bull Ring National - BMW 1M
30. Zandvoort - Lotus Evora GX
31. Barcelona GP - Lotus Exos 125 Stage 1
32. Brands Hatch Indy - Toyota Supra MKIV Time Attack
33. Black Cat County Long - Lamborghini Countach
34. Imola - Mercedes Benz 190E Evo II
35. Monza - Chevrolet Corvette C7R
36. Nurburgring Sprint GT - BMW M3 E30
37. Magione - Mercedes SLS AMG
38. Spa - Porsche 917/30 Spyder
39. Silverstone GP - Nissan GT-R Nismo
40. RedBull Ring GP - Alfa Romeo 4c
41. Brands Hatch GP - Audi R8 LMS Ultra
42. Highlands Long - Ford GT40
43. Vallelunga - Lotus GTE Carbon
44. Zandvoort - Porsche 911 Turbo S
45. Nordschleife - Ferrari 312T
46. Mugello - BMW M3 E92
47. Black Cat County - Short - Ford Mustang 2015
48. Imola - Maserati MC12 GT1
49. Silverstone 1967 - Porsche 911 Carrera RSR 3.0
50. Barcelona Moto - McLaren 570S
51. Magione - Mazda Miata NA
52. Spa - Ferrari F40
53. Vallelunga - Corvette C7 Stingray
54. Brands Hatch GP - Tatuus FA01
55. Highlands - Lotus 3 eleven
56. Nurburgring GP (GT) - Toyota Celica ST185 4WD Turbo
57. Monza 1966 Full Course - Ferrari 312/67
58. Nordschleife - Porsche 962 C Short Tail
59. Zandvoort- Nissan 370Z Nismo
60. Silverstone GP - McLaren F1
61. Vallelunga Classic - Ferrari 250GTO
62. Imola - Lotus 98T
63. Highlands Drift - P4/5 Competizione
64. Mugello - Lamborghini Aventador SV
65. Spa - Porsche 911R
66. Black Cat County - Lotus 2-Eleven GT4
67. Barcelona GP - Ferrari SF70H
68. Nordschleife Endurance & Highlands - Porsche 917k
69. Zandvoort - Lotus Exige Scura
70. RedBull Ring National - Maserati Alfieri
71. Laguna Seca - Audi Sport quattro S1 E2
72. Brands Hatch - Mclaren P1
73. Imola - Porsche 911 RSR
74. Nurburgring GP - Ferrari F2004
75. Barcelona Moto - Lamborghini Huracan Performante
76. Silverstone 1967 - Alfa Romeo 33 Stradale
77. Magione - BMW 1M Stage 3
78. Highlands Long - Mazda 787b
79. Black Cat County - Toyota GT86
80. Spa - Toyota TS040 Hybrid
81. Vallelunga Classic - Nissan Skyline R34 V-Spec
82. Mugello - Ferrari 458 GT2
83. Silverstone International - RUF R12 R AWD
84. Highlands Long - Audi R18 e-tron quattro 2014
85. Monza - Pagani Zonda R
86. Nordschleife - Lotus 3-eleven
87. Zandvoort - Maserati GranTurismo MC GT4
88. Redbull Ring GP - Mercedes Sauber C9
89. Brands Hatch - Lotus 25
90. Highlands Short - Abarth 595 SS
91. Nurburgring GP (GT) - Audi TT Cup

 

Monday morning: A cup of freshly brewed cup of coffee in my right hand open my laptop and go to the AC forum, WHC# topic. Let's see what Hugo has planned for us this week.
It is really a great way to start my new week. What a good piece of reading. Good stimulation to jump behind the wheel and do some laps around classic Monza. Thanks for your effort!

 

1.35.304 - BrainsBush - PC

Happy with this time so far. I think it is because of the livery

 

You can thank pctm for that one. The only 908 livery I made in the pack is the 907 one. Speaking of pctm I hope he doesn't see this challenge as he is the 908 master, I always take the Ford when we race these cars. I'll give this challenge a go at some point, hopefully this evening.

 

Yep, I noticed your 'skinpack' this morning when I did a search on 908 at RD. All of them are great! But 'chauvinistic' me had to choose that Orange again...

 

It's a pretty massive pack, quality can vary quite a bit. I'm to blame for that, I go for quantity over quality for a lot of cars in there

 

1.35.947 - X1X



Definitely Need to learn this track before I’ve any chance of improving.
I’m struggling with The last corner, is it a 2nd gear corner?
Also in setup I can’t change gear ratio,
when I change the “Gear sets”
From 1 to another number it doesn’t save, it just jumps back to 1.

 

1.34.758 - BrainsBush - PC (improvement)

Could not resist to do some more hotlapping. Wife and daughter are out, dog is sleeping, so it's my kingdom today!

@Lewisxbone : not sure if it is the best way to go but I take last corner in 2nd. Gear ratio default set1. I tried also several others but they made me all slower.

 

Improvement

1.35.023 - X1X



Thanks Brian.
Wife and daughter out here too so couldn’t resist a few more laps either


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1.37.050
PS4 Pro



What a combo but I'm slow as f..k I love this car so much.

So who whants to go fast? I wanna go fast (like Ricky Bobby

 

1:35,786 pc



lovely combination. really impressive. thanks hugo!

 

Yupsss back behind the wheel ....

PS4 Pro

laptime : 1.34.779

 

1.33.655 - Andy-R - PC


I need to have another crack at this when I get time, the lap after this one I gained .2 in the first two corners which is a huge amount then messed it up at the 2nd Lesmo corner. I left the improved first corner in at the end of the video

One good tip for anyone not already doing so is to use the end of the barrier on the right as a turn in marker at Variante Ascari. Another is to move the brake bias rearward until the rears lock first and then move it back forwards by 1 or 2 clicks. That way you aren't constantly locking the front. At least not as much. It will likely be somewhere around 53.5-54.5.

 

1.37.292 PS4

Like Lewis I'm baffled as to why we can't change gear sets. I can make the change in the setup menu, yet it always reverts back to gear set 1. It's frustrating to be redlining in 5th on the approach to Curva Grande.

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In fact Laughing Gravy the gear ration works when you set it from 1 to 2 , I have the same problem on ps4 pro .
The problem is when you come back in to the pits and go to your setup it will jump back to 1 so you will have to changed again .
Whit this car ( if I'm not wrong ) you can leave the gear ration on 1 .
Hope it helps and if not have a beer or two .

 

1.33.590 - V8_KB - PC



Looking at delta it's pretty much like I have a tenth to gain in every corner except for T1. Too bad it doesn't add up and you have to pull it off in one lap.

It took some time to "man up" (messing with the setup might have helped, but who am I to know it), but it's pretty good at 52. At 53 I was locking up into Lesmo 1 and interestingly in Parabolica my rear was coming around. Maybe higher diff preload fixed the sneaky rear, but again clock is my ultimate tuning tool, so yeah... might as well be placebo.

As long as it's on redline but doesn't hit the limiter it's ok IMO. I'm actually using first gear ratios. Of course the fact that you simply can't change it due to game bug isn't cool.


Waiting for pctm's sub 33

 

It must be epic in VR!
(or even on monitor, only 4 nights to sleep...)

 

It might depend on what sort of brake you are using. With a stiff load cell or potentiometer it might be easier to threshold near the limit with more rear bias. I need the stability of front lock up as I haven't the slightest clue how much brake I'm inputing until I hear a lock up and then (try) and react to it with my soft load cell. I think I was using 54.5 in the end, I tried 53 but with that the rears locked first for me. This car has waaaay too many setup options so I basically just added a little neg camber and turned the power up to 60 and the coast up to 40 and changed to 185mph gear set. I had the wings on 10 but I think that is default. Oh I lowered the car as well, no idea if it made it faster as I did it before I set a benchmark but just incase Max Power magazine turned up and wanted to take some pictures of my slammed ride.

When I find time to have another go I need to try and make my car more stable under braking and/or coming off the brakes into a corner. No idea how to go about it though.

 

It is epic! For those who use VR. Look down please when driving this car. What is that in your pants? Excitement!

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1:33 mid and still PCTM to come

 

So DFGT brakes > load cell.
Yeah mine is slammed too so we're about to fight for that front cover.
I loaded some older setup and it had wings at 7 I think, was slowly taking it down until at 4 I was like "it doesn't change sh..", changed to 0 and can't tell any difference on this track.
Power at max, coast at 25 and preload at 30 here. Preload hint says something about being more stable and resistant to rotate with higher values.
Unfortunately it doesn't say more less stable with lower values, just that it's more nervous.