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Generic Weekly Hotlap Challenge #129 – Sixth element is seventh heaven

Discussion in 'Console Lounge' started by Totall Wrytoff, May 19, 2019.

  1. Totall Wrytoff

    Totall Wrytoff Hardcore Simmer

    Welcome to the thread for the Weekly Hotlap Challenge #129 – “Sixth element is seventh heaven” and the Final Round of “Il Campione d'Italia” mini-series. Ben fatto a tutti!

    The Challenge:
    Hotlap
    Car: Lamborghini Sesto Elemento
    Track: Vallelunga
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    After last week’s sliding around, we will be revelling in traction and grip. I least I hope so!

    This week we are going to thrash and crash the priceless Sesto Elemento, Lamborghini’s high-performance limited edition lightweight track-only super special.
    Like the Ferrari GTO, the Lamborghini Sesto Elemento occupies the rarefied position of a flagship product of supercar manufacturer.
    The Sesto Elemento was revealed in Paris in 2010 and Lamborghini announced plans to produce twenty cars (…track use only), with each car costing US$2.92 million. All twenty cars were snapped-up before the start of production, with some priced at over £4million. Surprised? I’m sure the bean counters at Lamborghini regretted not going for a run of thirty or forty.

    The car is very loosely based on the Gallardo. Very, very loosely. The Sesto Elemento has a one-piece carbon fibre monocoque and carbon fibre body, drive shaft and suspension components, reducing the overall weight to an astonishing 999 kg. Compare that to the hardly porky 1410kg Gallardo LP560-4. Hence the car’s name - Sesto Elemento/ the Sixth Element – which on the periodic table, is of course, carbon.
    The Sesto Elemento uses a 562bhp tune of the Gallardo’s naturally aspirated, 5.2litre, V10 engine, giving a Veyron beating 570bhp per ton power-to-weight ratio and driving all four wheels through a 6 speed semi-auto gearbox. I like the way the exhausts exit just under the rear wing:
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    The Autodromo Vallelunga Piero Taruffi, to give it its full name, nestles in the Lazio Hills 32 km north of Rome. The circuit started in 1951 as a tiny dirt oval, converted from a horse racing track, but in 1957 Italian racing driver and engineer Piero Taruffi was brought in to create a new track, providing a better challenge for drivers and test facility for manufacturers.
    As I’m sure everyone knows, the circuit is also home to the one and only Kunos Simulazioni, who occupy a pit garage as an office.

    The Sesto Elemento feels brilliant here and I think you’ll find threading the car into turn one, Curva Grande, at over 150mph, catches your full attention!

    There is a choice of tyres for the Sesto Elemento - Semislicks or Hypercar Trofeos (def. “Trofeo is a Trackday and Competition Summer tyre designed to be fitted to Passenger Car.”)
    I assumed the Semislicks would be the faster tyres, but I did a test with each using the recommended pressures below and I started with the Trofeos, normally an advantage to the Semislicks as I would have practiced the lap. I did an outlap, then two clean laps on each. The Trofeos felt grippy and very good in the braking zones, but in a couple of places around the lap, I had to really catch sudden, lift-off oversteer and like last week with the GTO on the Street 90s, the body control felt wayward. So I expected the Semis to be much faster. In comparison the Semis felt hopeless in braking, (add about 30m to your stopping distance) and nothing like as precise on turn in. They do give much better stability to the car though. But the lap time difference was very surprising. Despite trying much harder on the second lap, the Semis couldn’t get close to the Trofeos. The Trofeos, in my quick test, are about 2.5 to 3 secs a lap quicker. Quite the opposite to my expectation, so I googled Trofeo and found this from a 2013 Auto-bild tyre test - "Dynamic and sporty driving qualities on wet and dry roads make the Trofeo almost an all rounder. Thanks to precise steering and good feedback, the slight bias towards oversteer is still easy to control." Hmmm... you have to be quick! I think the rear end twitchiness from the Trofeos is because of the shift in balance from the the much greater front end grip. The Semis are sliding into understeer where the Trofeos just grip and turn.

    Anyway the recommended pressures are:
    Semislicks, front and back are 34psi
    Hypercar Trofeo, front and back are 32psi

    How to take part - Hot lap:
    To enter, select Hotlap, choose the Lamborghini Sesto Elemento and the Vallelunga Circuit. Please setup the session as shown below:
    Mode: Hotlap
    Time of day: Free
    Ambient Temp: 26 Degrees
    Setup: Free
    Controller: Free
    Assists: Free
    Stability: Free

    To qualify for WHC you must have the ambient temp set to 26 DegC.

    Deadline: Sunday 26th May, (my eldest daughter’s 21st Birthday) 2019 - 21:00 GMT.

    You can run as many laps as you like and update your times as often as you like. It is all about taking part, testing yourself and enjoying Assetto Corsa. All Platforms are welcome.
    To submit a time, pause the game and select 'session' from the menu and screenshot this page or take a photo of your screen and post it in this thread - Note all the information from the screen is required including temperature, mode heading and of course the car being used!
    Please post video clips and share information in here as well, but without the session screen your time will not be included (placing the session screen in a video clip is acceptable).

    Please use the following format to post your times:
    Your time, to be shown as x.xx.xxx.
    Your platform (PC Xb1 PS4)
    The image or screen shot showing your time.
    Your thoughts and comment

    Please mark updated times with Improvement.

    A leader board is collated regularly. Unfortunately editing of posts gets locked on this forum so this post cannot be updated.



    Weekly Hotlap Challenge Championship League
    How it works:
    1. Enter the Weekly Hotlap Challenge as posted every Sunday evening and you will be automatically entered into the league table.
    2. Your ranking in the final standings, posted on Sunday evening, will earn you points, as follows:
    Place Points: 1st 15 2nd 14 3rd 13 4th 12 5th 11 6th 10 7th 9 8th 8 9th 7 10th 66
    3. Every player taking part in a WHC, but finishing outside the top 10 will get 4 points.
    4. Every player who is in the table, (ie has entered a previous WHC) but does not play that week will get three points each week.
    5. Players that join WHC after WHC#114 will be awarded 3 points retrospectively for every WHC missed. For example, if you enter WHC for the first time at WHC#124, your name will be added to the table, with 27 points, plus whatever you score in WHC#124.
    6. Specialist Challenges will also feature throughout the season. These will be as monthly mini-series, for example Formula 1 February or Muscle Car Month, or nominated car types, for example the best driver in road cars. These events will be announced in the WHC Thread.
    The updated Championship league table will be displayed in a new post in the Console Lounge each week.

    At the end of the year, the WHC before Xmas week, the winners will be declared -
    * Championship podium
    * Specialist Challenge Winners
    * 1st place Contributor (the most Bonus points)
    * 1st place Loyal Lapper (who has entered most regularly, most often, if there is a draw, Bonus points count, then Champ points)

    Weekly Hotlap Challenge History

    1. Mugello - Praga R1 Posted by John Gordon 3rd Oct, 2016 (Console Lounge P55)
    2. Imola - Mercedes SLS GT3
    3. Brands Hatch GP - RUF RT12 Posted by GravelTrap 19th Oct 2016 (Console Lounge P54)
    4. Magione - Lotus 2 Eleven
    5. Silverstone International - Abarth 500 Assetto Corse
    6. Zandvoort - Pagani Huayra
    7. Nurburgring GP (GT) - Alfa Romeo 155 V6 TI
    8. Spa - BMW M3 GT2
    9. Vallelunga Club - KTM X-Bow R
    10. Barcelona - Moto - Shelby Cobra 427 S/C
    11. Silverstone 1967 - Lotus 72D
    12. Nordschleife - Porsche 911 Carrera S
    13. Black Cat County - Ferrari LaFerrari
    14. Monza Junior 1966 - Alfa Romeo GTA
    15. Redbull Ring GP - Lamborghini Gallardo Sl
    16. Zandvoort - Ford Escort RS1600
    17. Imola - Mazda Rx-7 Spirit R
    18. Brands Hatch GP - Lotus Exige V6 Cup
    19. Monza - Ferrari FXX K
    20. Barcelona - Moto - Ferrari 488 GT3
    21. Mugello - Alfa Romeo Giulietta QV
    22. Silverstone GP - Porsche 911 GT3 Cup 2017
    23. Nurburgring Sprint GT - Toyota AE86 Tuned
    24. Magione - Maserati Levante S
    25. Spa - Lotus 98T
    26. Vallelunga - Classic - Porsche 935/78 "Moby Dick"
    27. Nordschleife Endurance Cup - M235i Racing
    28. Silverstone 1967 - Maserati 250F T2 12C
    29. Red Bull Ring National - BMW 1M Posted by HavanaB0B, 1st May 2017 (Console Lounge p28)
    30. Zandvoort - Lotus Evora GX
    31. Barcelona GP - Lotus Exos 125 Stage 1
    32. Brands Hatch Indy - Toyota Supra MKIV Time Attack Posted by by Graveltrap 21st May 2017 (Console Lounge p25)
    33. Black Cat County Long - Lamborghini Countach
    34. Imola - Mercedes Benz 190E Evo II
    35. Monza - Chevrolet Corvette C7R
    36. Nurburgring Sprint GT - BMW M3 E30
    37. Magione - Mercedes SLS AMG
    38. Spa - Porsche 917/30 Spyder
    39. Silverstone GP - Nissan GT-R Nismo Posted by Hugo Catarino,9th July 2017 (Console Lounge p21)
    40. RedBull Ring GP - Alfa Romeo 4c
    41. Brands Hatch GP - Audi R8 LMS Ultra
    42. Highlands Long - Ford GT40
    43. Vallelunga - Lotus GTE Carbon
    44. Zandvoort - Porsche 911 Turbo S Posted by Graveltrap 13th Aug 2017 (Console Lounge p19)
    45. Nordschleife - Ferrari 312T
    46. Mugello - BMW M3 E92
    47. Black Cat County - Short - Ford Mustang 2015
    48. Imola - Maserati MC12 GT1
    49. Silverstone 1967 - Porsche 911 Carrera RSR 3.0
    50. Barcelona Moto - McLaren 570S
    51. Magione - Mazda Miata NA
    52. Spa - Ferrari F40
    53. Vallelunga - Corvette C7 Stingray Posted by Moodyryder 23rd Oct 2017 (Console Lounge p14)
    54. Brands Hatch GP - Tatuus FA01
    55. Highlands - Lotus 3 eleven
    56. Nurburgring GP (GT) - Toyota Celica ST185 4WD Turbo
    57. Monza 1966 Full Course - Ferrari 312/67
    58. Nordschleife - Porsche 962 C Short Tail
    59. Zandvoort- Nissan 370Z Nismo
    60. Silverstone GP - McLaren F1
    61. Vallelunga Classic - Ferrari 250GTO
    62. Imola - Lotus 98T
    63. Highlands Drift - P4/5 Competizione
    64. Mugello - Lamborghini Aventador SV
    65. Spa - Porsche 911R
    66. Black Cat County - Lotus 2-Eleven GT4
    67. Barcelona GP - Ferrari SF70H
    68. Nordschleife Endurance & Highlands - Porsche 917k
    69. Zandvoort - Lotus Exige Scura Posted by Hugo Catarino 25th Feb 2o18 (Console Lounge p7)
    70. RedBull Ring National - Maserati Alfieri
    71. Laguna Seca - Audi Sport quattro S1 E2
    72. Brands Hatch - Mclaren P1
    73. Imola - Porsche 911 RSR
    74. Nurburgring GP - Ferrari F2004
    75. Barcelona Moto - Lamborghini Huracan Performante
    76. Silverstone 1967 - Alfa Romeo 33 Stradale
    77. Magione - BMW 1M Stage 3
    78. Highlands Long - Mazda 787b
    79. Black Cat County - Toyota GT86
    80. Spa - Toyota TS040 Hybrid
    81. Vallelunga Classic - Nissan Skyline R34 V-Spec
    82. Mugello - Ferrari 458 GT2
    83. Silverstone International - RUF R12 R AWD
    84. Highlands Long - Audi R18 e-tron quattro 2014
    85. Monza - Pagani Zonda R
    86. Nordschleife - Lotus 3-eleven
    87. Zandvoort - Maserati GranTurismo MC GT4
    88. Redbull Ring GP - Mercedes Sauber C9
    89. Brands Hatch - Lotus 25
    90. Highlands Short - Abarth 595 SS
    91. Nurburgring GP (GT) - Audi TT Cup
    92. Monza 1966 - Road Course - Porsche 908 LH
    93. Vallelunga - BMW M3 E30 Gr.A 92
    94. Laguna Seca - Alfa Romeo Mito QV
    95. Nordschleife - RUF Yellowbird & Ferrari F40
    96. Barcelona GP - BMW Z4 GT3
    97. Highlands Drift - Ferrari 458 Italia
    98. Spa - Lotus Type 49
    99. Zandvoort - Porsche 911 GT1-98
    100. Silverstone - Nissan GT-R GT3; Brands Hatch - Lotus Exige V6; Vallelunga - free car
    101. Mugello - Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio
    102. Silverstone National - Mazda MX5 Cup or Abarth 500 Assetto Corse
    103. Highlands Short – Ford Escort RS1600 Posted by Totall Wrytoff 11th Nov 2018 (Console Lounge p2)
    104. Black Cat Short – Porsche 917/30
    105. Monza 66 Junior Course – Ferrari F40 S3
    106. Magione – Toyota Supra MkIV
    107. Brands Hatch Indy 5 lap - Porsche 911 GT3 RS
    107. Nurburgring Sprint - Porsche 911 GT3 RS
    108. Nordschleife - Abarth 595SS
    108 Laguna Seca 5 lap - McLaren F1 GTR
    109. Brands Hatch - Ferrari FXX K
    110. Highlands – Lamborghini Muira P400 SV
    111. Imola - Scuderia Glickenhaus SCG 003C
    112. Vallelunga Club – Lotus Exos T125
    113. Highlands Drift - Porsche Cayman GT4 Clubsport
    114. Barcelona Moto - Maserati 250F 6 cylinder
    115. Silverstone GP – Ferrari F138
    116. Laguna Seca – Lotus 72D
    117. Red Bull Ring GP - Ferrari SF15-T
    118. Spa Francochamps – Maserati Quattroporte GTS
    119. Zandvoort – Toyota AE86
    120. Silverstone National – BMW M3 E92 Step 1
    121. Silverstone 1967 – Ford GT40
    122. Nurburgring GP - Porsche 919 Hybrid 2016
    123. Highlands Drift Circuit – Porsche 718 RS 60 Spyder
    124. Nordshleife Endurance – Porsche 962C Long Tail
    125. Red Bull Ring National - Audi R8 V10 Plus
    126. Imola – Ferrari 330 P4
    127. Monza 1966 Road Course - Pagani Huayra BC
    128. Mugello – Ferrari GTO
     


  2. Emmanuel Tubbiolo

    Emmanuel Tubbiolo Hardcore Simmer

    1.41.689
    Xbox

    Had a bit of a go to learn the track last night. I prefer the semislick but I think you're right they are slower. I think. Couldn't get a clean lap with those tyre. Especially the last few corners. So touchy. Anyway great combo again.
     

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  3. Lewisxbone

    Lewisxbone Alien

    1.35.721 - X1X

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    Thought I’d try a few laps while I can. Actually helps to take your mind of things.
    Very nice combo totall
    First time driving this, had to lower tyre pressures a lot to keep them green so thats probably loosing me lots of time, well that’s my excuse out of the way
     
  4. Emmanuel Tubbiolo

    Emmanuel Tubbiolo Hardcore Simmer

    Brilliant time already. Well insane time actually. Did you use Trofeo?
     
  5. Lewisxbone

    Lewisxbone Alien

    Thankyou !!!!
    Yeah I used the trofeo with pressures at 28f (20) and 30r (22) which helped to keep temps up and grip but it’s probably costing me time.
    Once I get used the car I’m going to raise the pressures again and see what difference it makes.
     
  6. Emmanuel Tubbiolo

    Emmanuel Tubbiolo Hardcore Simmer

    Great thanks. All I remember is I had to bring down the front toe a good bit to get a better feeling.
     
  7. Biner

    Biner Hardcore Simmer

    Awesome write-ups on the car track combos @Totall Wrytoff! How can anyone not want to hop in the rig and peel off some hot laps after reading your weekly intros! Well done and thanks for the time and effort you (and @Tibor Sólyom) put into this so we can enjoy a unique event. 999kg and 562bhp...wow!
     
  8. Lewisxbone

    Lewisxbone Alien

    Improvement

    1.34.766 - X1X

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  9. DonZmeuheu

    DonZmeuheu Hardcore Simmer

  10. sissydriver

    sissydriver Alien

    there are some issues with sol and patch and atm ac is constantly crashing. dunno when i have the time to solve the problems - maybe i am late to the lambo party this week...:rolleyes:
     
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  11. Laughing Gravy

    Laughing Gravy Hardcore Simmer

    1.39.836 PS4

    Wishing your dad a speedy recovery, Lewis.[​IMG]

    Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk
     
  12. Totall Wrytoff

    Totall Wrytoff Hardcore Simmer

    1.35.514
    PS4
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    Quite chuffed with this opener, think I'll have another go whilst the going is good.
    Last week I went early, then spent the week trying to overtake the ghost, which is no fun and like pushing water uphill.
     
  13. Laughing Gravy

    Laughing Gravy Hardcore Simmer

  14. Totall Wrytoff

    Totall Wrytoff Hardcore Simmer

    Excellent, that's great Laughing Gravy!
    I won't spoil it for those who haven't watched but that clip sums the car up as precisely as the way car drives!
     

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  15. Totall Wrytoff

    Totall Wrytoff Hardcore Simmer

    On behalf of Tibor and me, thank-you very much for that lovely comment Biner!
    It's a pleasure and a bit of privilege to host WHC, but it is nonetheless very gratifying to hear your appreciation. In our engine, that goes down like a tin of Sunoco!:)

    Edit - I will also add, those sorts of comments can shave around 2secs off your laptime by the end of the week!:D
     
  16. F1415182235

    F1415182235 Hardcore Simmer

    1:34.460 - X1
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    This car is ... something.
     
  17. DriverModFTW

    DriverModFTW Hardcore Simmer

    Is everyone using trofeo's? This was all I could muster with semi's tonight with my first session.

    1.39.916
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  18. F1415182235

    F1415182235 Hardcore Simmer

    Yep. Has to be trofeo.
     
  19. Pretend racer

    Pretend racer Hardcore Simmer

    1.32.977 pc
    Sorry I forgot to take a pic, but I did take a video!



    This car is useless with the tc on, and the brakes are pretty terrible, and its so stiff that it'll buck just like a bull at a rodeo. But I will say it is pretty fun to drive mostly because its got a lot of power and I like to slide around feeling like a superhero. Its a chore to tame this beast and thats what I love about it. She got a little feisty with me on a couple of corners so there's a little room for improvement, of course.


    Does anyone know if the Stig recorded that laptime with traction control on or not? I was quite a bit quicker with the tc off than the stig, but with the tc on he got me by 6tenths. I spun a lot more times in practice than he did though!!
     
  20. DriverModFTW

    DriverModFTW Hardcore Simmer

    I only saw abs as an option under electronics..
     

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