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Generic Weekly Hotlap Challenge #132 – The first to hatch.

Discussion in 'Console Lounge' started by Totall Wrytoff, Jun 9, 2019.

  1. Welcome to the thread for the Weekly Hotlap Challenge #132 - "The first to hatch" and the Third Round of the mini-series, The Anglo-American Challenge.

    The Challenge:
    Car: McLaren MP4 12C
    Track: Brands Hatch GP
    After the collaboration with our best mates across the pond last week, we're back to Blighty for a full-English.
    The McLaren MP4 12C. Brilliant. This is another car that we haven’t run before and a car that I’m delighted to propose.
    Launched back in 2011, it was the first road car wholly designed and built by McLaren and their first production road car produced since the F1. But at the time, we really knew them as multiple F1 championship winners, so they had a lot to live up to and in my opinion, they really delivered. There were some niggles – the gearshift wasn’t the best, the electronic interface was poor and some said the car was a bit characterless, but absolutely no one said the view out wasn’t brilliant and it wasn’t absolutely the fastest thing they had ever driven. It pushed forward the boundaries of performance and usability and I bet quite a few whips were cracked at Maranello.
    There are still very few machines that can live with the 12c along a country road. At the time nothing could touch it.
    The chassis is a carbon tub, very special at the time and more importantly the 12c has an innovative hydraulic suspension system connected to all four corners, so no springs or ARB . It acts like a central damper, individually controlling each wheel, keeping the car flat, optimising the grip across all tyres but also giving a feel-some and supple ride.
    It also has an epic motor, called the M838T. (Obviously when is comes to names McLaren prefers digits to letters.) This was based on an engine originally designed for Indycar, developed by McLaren and helped by none other than Ilmor and Ricardo. Once built, to test the engine, the team secretly bought a Ferrari 360 to use as the mule. I bet that’s still around in someone’s garage somewhere!

    The M838T is dynamite. It is a 3.8 L twin-turbo V8 producing 616bhp at 7500 rpm and 443 lbf/ft (!) of torque at 5600 rpm. In a car that weighs just over 1400kg with a full tank. You get 80% torque available at just 2,000 rpm, so with TCS off it can be really wild. In fact journalists described the performance at the time as “shocking.”
    This is straight from Wikipedia:
    “DragTimes.com posted a YouTube video of a stock McLaren 12C accelerating from 0 to 60 mph in 2.8 seconds and from 0 to 100 mph in 6.0 seconds and also recorded a 1/4mile of 10.27 seconds at 135 mph, the 3rd fastest verified time for a stock production car. The manufacturer has a claimed top speed of 207 mph but a top speed of 215 mph was achieved in the 12C Spider, which is 3 mph "slower" than the coupe. The Coupe, in reality, can do 218.61 mph and will slow from 120 mph to a complete stop in under 5 seconds, or 62 mph to zero in around seven car lengths.”
    That's eyeballs on the windscreen!

    Brands Hatch GP is rightly up there with Zandvoort, Spa and Imola as one of the most popular circuits in WHC. It was last used in WHC#109 and no apologies for running it again. I did my first ever track day around the GP circuit, (I have a photo which I will publish if there is demand!) My father raced here in the sixties in his Mini Cooper 1275 and at one Sports Car Race meeting, against the powerful Jags, Ferraris, Fords and Porsches of the day, it started to rain, then poured. He won the race outright and got fastest time of the day. When I was little we had a big silver cup on the mantelpiece at home. I wish I had his talent! The Cup was stolen in a burglary in 1978.

    Brands Hatch was originally the name of a grassy hollow on Brands Farm and the “circuit,” first used by cyclists, was formed from the tracks made by the tractors. Who needs Hermann Tilke when you have a Massey Ferguson?
    The track is just brilliant – it runs through Kent woodland, it has good elevation changes, turns uphill and downhill and has several fast, blind-apex corners. It needs some learning and demands skill. It is also precisely what the McLaren MP4 12C was so exquisitely designed for. Let’s lay some rubber through Surtees!

    Speaking of which, road tyres of course, the recommended pressures are Semislicks at 33 psi, or Street at 37 psi.

    How to take part - Hot lap:
    To enter, select Hotlap, choose the McLaren MP4 12C and Brands Hatch GP circuit. Please setup the session as shown below:
    Mode: Hotlap
    Time of day: Free
    Ambient Temp: 26 Degrees
    Setup: Free
    Controller: Free
    Assists: Free
    Stability: Free
    To qualify for WHC you must have the ambient temp set to 26 DegC.

    Deadline: Sunday 16th June 2019 - 21:00 GMT.

    You can run as many laps as you like and update your times as often as you like. It is all about taking part, testing yourself and enjoying Assetto Corsa. All Platforms are welcome.
    To submit a time, pause the game and select 'session' from the menu and screenshot this page or take a photo of your screen and post it in this thread - Note all the information from the screen is required including temperature, mode heading and of course the car being used!
    Please post video clips and share information in here as well, but without the session screen your time will not be included (placing the session screen in a video clip is acceptable).

    Please use the following format to post your times:
    Your time, to be shown as x.xx.xxx.
    Your platform (PC Xb1 PS4)
    The image or screen shot showing your time.
    Your thoughts and comment
    Please mark updated times with Improvement.
    A leader board is collated regularly. Unfortunately editing of posts gets locked on this forum so this post cannot be updated.Weekly Hotlap Challenge Championship League

    How it works:

    1. Enter the Weekly Hotlap Challenge as posted every Sunday evening and you will be automatically entered into the league table.
    2. Your ranking in the final standings, posted on Sunday evening, will earn you points, as follows:
    Place Points: 1st 15 2nd 14 3rd 13 4th 12 5th 11 6th 10 7th 9 8th 8 9th 7 10th 66
    3. Every player taking part in a WHC, but finishing outside the top 10 will get 4 points.
    4. Every player who is in the table, (ie has entered a previous WHC) but does not play that week will get three points each week.
    5. Players that join WHC after WHC#114 will be awarded 3 points retrospectively for every WHC missed. For example, if you enter WHC for the first time at WHC#124, your name will be added to the table, with 27 points, plus whatever you score in WHC#124.
    6. Specialist Challenges will also feature throughout the season. These will be as monthly mini-series, for example Formula 1 February or Muscle Car Month, or nominated car types, for example the best driver in road cars. These events will be announced in the WHC Thread.
    The updated Championship league table will be displayed in a new post in the Console Lounge each week.
    At the end of the year, the WHC before Xmas week, the winners will be declared -
    * Championship podium
    * Specialist Challenge Winners
    * 1st place Contributor (the most Bonus points)
    * 1st place Loyal Lapper (who has entered most regularly, most often, if there is a draw, Bonus points count, then Champ points)

    Weekly Hotlap Challenge History

    1. Mugello - Praga R1 Posted by John Gordon 3rd Oct, 2016 (Console Lounge P55)
    2. Imola - Mercedes SLS GT3
    3. Brands Hatch GP - RUF RT12 Posted by GravelTrap 19th Oct 2016 (Console Lounge P54)
    4. Magione - Lotus 2 Eleven
    5. Silverstone International - Abarth 500 Assetto Corse
    6. Zandvoort - Pagani Huayra
    7. Nurburgring GP (GT) - Alfa Romeo 155 V6 TI
    8. Spa - BMW M3 GT2
    9. Vallelunga Club - KTM X-Bow R
    10. Barcelona - Moto - Shelby Cobra 427 S/C
    11. Silverstone 1967 - Lotus 72D
    12. Nordschleife - Porsche 911 Carrera S
    13. Black Cat County - Ferrari LaFerrari
    14. Monza Junior 1966 - Alfa Romeo GTA
    15. Redbull Ring GP - Lamborghini Gallardo Sl
    16. Zandvoort - Ford Escort RS1600
    17. Imola - Mazda Rx-7 Spirit R
    18. Brands Hatch GP - Lotus Exige V6 Cup
    19. Monza - Ferrari FXX K
    20. Barcelona - Moto - Ferrari 488 GT3
    21. Mugello - Alfa Romeo Giulietta QV
    22. Silverstone GP - Porsche 911 GT3 Cup 2017
    23. Nurburgring Sprint GT - Toyota AE86 Tuned
    24. Magione - Maserati Levante S
    25. Spa - Lotus 98T
    26. Vallelunga - Classic - Porsche 935/78 "Moby Dick"
    27. Nordschleife Endurance Cup - M235i Racing
    28. Silverstone 1967 - Maserati 250F T2 12C
    29. Red Bull Ring National - BMW 1M Posted by HavanaB0B, 1st May 2017 (Console Lounge p28)
    30. Zandvoort - Lotus Evora GX
    31. Barcelona GP - Lotus Exos 125 Stage 1
    32. Brands Hatch Indy - Toyota Supra MKIV Time Attack Posted by by Graveltrap 21st May 2017 (Console Lounge p25)
    33. Black Cat County Long - Lamborghini Countach
    34. Imola - Mercedes Benz 190E Evo II
    35. Monza - Chevrolet Corvette C7R
    36. Nurburgring Sprint GT - BMW M3 E30
    37. Magione - Mercedes SLS AMG
    38. Spa - Porsche 917/30 Spyder
    39. Silverstone GP - Nissan GT-R Nismo Posted by Hugo Catarino,9th July 2017 (Console Lounge p21)
    40. RedBull Ring GP - Alfa Romeo 4c
    41. Brands Hatch GP - Audi R8 LMS Ultra
    42. Highlands Long - Ford GT40
    43. Vallelunga - Lotus GTE Carbon
    44. Zandvoort - Porsche 911 Turbo S Posted by Graveltrap 13th Aug 2017 (Console Lounge p19)
    45. Nordschleife - Ferrari 312T
    46. Mugello - BMW M3 E92
    47. Black Cat County - Short - Ford Mustang 2015
    48. Imola - Maserati MC12 GT1
    49. Silverstone 1967 - Porsche 911 Carrera RSR 3.0
    50. Barcelona Moto - McLaren 570S
    51. Magione - Mazda Miata NA
    52. Spa - Ferrari F40
    53. Vallelunga - Corvette C7 Stingray Posted by Moodyryder 23rd Oct 2017 (Console Lounge p14)
    54. Brands Hatch GP - Tatuus FA01
    55. Highlands - Lotus 3 eleven
    56. Nurburgring GP (GT) - Toyota Celica ST185 4WD Turbo
    57. Monza 1966 Full Course - Ferrari 312/67
    58. Nordschleife - Porsche 962 C Short Tail
    59. Zandvoort- Nissan 370Z Nismo
    60. Silverstone GP - McLaren F1
    61. Vallelunga Classic - Ferrari 250GTO
    62. Imola - Lotus 98T
    63. Highlands Drift - P4/5 Competizione
    64. Mugello - Lamborghini Aventador SV
    65. Spa - Porsche 911R
    66. Black Cat County - Lotus 2-Eleven GT4
    67. Barcelona GP - Ferrari SF70H
    68. Nordschleife Endurance & Highlands - Porsche 917k
    69. Zandvoort - Lotus Exige Scura Posted by Hugo Catarino 25th Feb 2o18 (Console Lounge p7)
    70. RedBull Ring National - Maserati Alfieri
    71. Laguna Seca - Audi Sport quattro S1 E2
    72. Brands Hatch - Mclaren P1
    73. Imola - Porsche 911 RSR
    74. Nurburgring GP - Ferrari F2004
    75. Barcelona Moto - Lamborghini Huracan Performante
    76. Silverstone 1967 - Alfa Romeo 33 Stradale
    77. Magione - BMW 1M Stage 3
    78. Highlands Long - Mazda 787b
    79. Black Cat County - Toyota GT86
    80. Spa - Toyota TS040 Hybrid
    81. Vallelunga Classic - Nissan Skyline R34 V-Spec
    82. Mugello - Ferrari 458 GT2
    83. Silverstone International - RUF R12 R AWD
    84. Highlands Long - Audi R18 e-tron quattro 2014
    85. Monza - Pagani Zonda R
    86. Nordschleife - Lotus 3-eleven
    87. Zandvoort - Maserati GranTurismo MC GT4
    88. Redbull Ring GP - Mercedes Sauber C9
    89. Brands Hatch - Lotus 25
    90. Highlands Short - Abarth 595 SS
    91. Nurburgring GP (GT) - Audi TT Cup
    92. Monza 1966 - Road Course - Porsche 908 LH
    93. Vallelunga - BMW M3 E30 Gr.A 92
    94. Laguna Seca - Alfa Romeo Mito QV
    95. Nordschleife - RUF Yellowbird & Ferrari F40
    96. Barcelona GP - BMW Z4 GT3
    97. Highlands Drift - Ferrari 458 Italia
    98. Spa - Lotus Type 49
    99. Zandvoort - Porsche 911 GT1-98
    100. Silverstone - Nissan GT-R GT3; Brands Hatch - Lotus Exige V6; Vallelunga - free car
    101. Mugello - Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio
    102. Silverstone National - Mazda MX5 Cup or Abarth 500 Assetto Corse
    103. Highlands Short – Ford Escort RS1600 Posted by Totall Wrytoff 11th Nov 2018 (Console Lounge p2)
    104. Black Cat Short – Porsche 917/30
    105. Monza 66 Junior Course – Ferrari F40 S3
    106. Magione – Toyota Supra MkIV
    107. Brands Hatch Indy 5 lap - Porsche 911 GT3 RS
    107. Nurburgring Sprint - Porsche 911 GT3 RS
    108. Nordschleife - Abarth 595SS
    108 Laguna Seca 5 lap - McLaren F1 GTR
    109. Brands Hatch - Ferrari FXX K
    110. Highlands – Lamborghini Muira P400 SV
    111. Imola - Scuderia Glickenhaus SCG 003C
    112. Vallelunga Club – Lotus Exos T125
    113. Highlands Drift - Porsche Cayman GT4 Clubsport
    114. Barcelona Moto - Maserati 250F 6 cylinder
    115. Silverstone GP – Ferrari F138
    116. Laguna Seca – Lotus 72D
    117. Red Bull Ring GP - Ferrari SF15-T
    118. Spa Francochamps – Maserati Quattroporte GTS
    119. Zandvoort – Toyota AE86
    120. Silverstone National – BMW M3 E92 Step 1
    121. Silverstone 1967 – Ford GT40
    122. Nurburgring GP - Porsche 919 Hybrid 2016
    123. Highlands Drift Circuit – Porsche 718 RS 60 Spyder
    124. Nordshleife Endurance – Porsche 962C Long Tail
    125. Red Bull Ring National - Audi R8 V10 Plus
    126. Imola – Ferrari 330 P4
    127. Monza 1966 Road Course - Pagani Huayra BC
    128. Mugello – Ferrari GTO
    129. Vallelunga – Lamborghini Sesto Elemento
    130. Black Cat County – Shelby Cobra 427S/C
    131. Laguna Seca – Lotus Evora GTC
    132. Brands Hatch GP – McLaren MP4 12C
    Last edited: Jun 9, 2019

  2. Emmanuel Tubbiolo

    Emmanuel Tubbiolo Hardcore Simmer

    Brilliant. Great story and of course I demand the picture. First time for me in Brands Hatch and looked forward to try. Had a first go and for sure TC for now and very technical track.
  3. 1.37.040
    Posting just to help Lewisxbone with his shyness!:D
    Quick warm up - a few laps to get a feel and sort the pressures. TC OFF is not too unmanageable, it gave me an instantly faster lap and makes the challenge much more involving.
  4. OK!:) Photo of a photo... 1997
    Looks like I'm parked but this is hard on the brakes (fronts are disappearing into the arches) and I'm clenching-up going into paddock, in the hotted up Clio 16v.
    (Filters, Superchipped, sports manifold and exhaust and 155BHP:p) Those were the days.
  5. Emmanuel Tubbiolo

    Emmanuel Tubbiolo Hardcore Simmer

    This is good stuff..
  6. Emmanuel Tubbiolo

    Emmanuel Tubbiolo Hardcore Simmer


    I get the combo now. This is going to be fun.

    Attached Files:

  7. Mustang 500

    Mustang 500 Simracer


    Attached Files:

  8. Improvement
    I cruised in 4th using the torque from Hawthornes all the way through to Stirling where I dropped to 3rd for this lap.
    Felt effortlessly fast but lazy.
  9. Lewisxbone

    Lewisxbone Alien

    1.35.688 - X1X


    Meant to post earlier but got a bit side tracked with Motogp 19
  10. Tibor Sólyom

    Tibor Sólyom Hardcore Simmer

    Current standings:

    1- 1.35.682 Mustang 500 XB1
    2- 1.35.688 Lewisxbone XB1
    3- 1.36.697 Total Wrytoff PS4
    4- 1.39.235 Emmanuel Tubbiolo XB1
  11. F1415182235

    F1415182235 Hardcore Simmer

    1:35.312 - X1

    I'll upload the lap in a bit.
  12. Pretend racer

    Pretend racer Hardcore Simmer

    1.34.037 pc

    Sorry I forgot the pic again but I do show the scoreboard and the setup and the end of the vid. I bastardized labbe's tune for silverstone which basically means I added a bunch of camber and toe, I also took out 1psi of the LF tire, and adjusted fuel.

    I think the key to being quick in this car is to try not to let the tires spin. Its hard to be smooth in this car, on this track, without being able to soften the suspension. A patient right foot can compensate better for wheelspin than the tc imo it just takes a bit of finesse.

    I love cars that are overpowered and undertired?! (is that a word?), and Brand hatch is always a fun track. I wish I could travel abroad to race on some of these tracks in real life. Pretty jealous @Totall Wrytoff that looks like so much fun! I think I'm gonna look into the pylon autocross league this summer and hopefully they have some events close to me. The closest real race track to me is 600km away :mad: I often have dreams of winning the lottery and traveling to all the famous racetracks and renting a f1 car for the day! Then I would buy a place beside the Nurburgring and race my collection of cars there everyday. :)
  13. Emmanuel Tubbiolo

    Emmanuel Tubbiolo Hardcore Simmer

    Beautiful lap Pretend Racer. Congratulations.. Thanks for the video and settings.
  14. Biner

    Biner Hardcore Simmer

    1:37.464 PC

    I need wayyyy more setup options so I don't have to confront my driving skill deficiencies! I like the combo but the sound is just not right. I would not buy this car if it sounded like this irl. :D

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  15. Tibor Sólyom

    Tibor Sólyom Hardcore Simmer

    Some of the 1st gen cars in AC has sounds like 15 years before, not even PC standards... :) I remember the E30 BMWs are horrible for example. You can change it with Content Manager very easily though.
    Must be very fun combo, I loved this car.
  16. Tibor Sólyom

    Tibor Sólyom Hardcore Simmer

    Which one? I love Canadian tracks.
  17. Pretend racer

    Pretend racer Hardcore Simmer

    I thought the only road course was near Edmonton Alberta. Which too far for me.

    There used to be a track in Calgary and I actually took my 2001 Yamaha FZ1 (aka Fazer in Europe) on the last open track day before it was closed down. That is an amazing bike btw, I rode it 300km with saddle bags on it to the track, and rode it back home after the track day. I put some sticky tires on it and ended up grinding about an inch off the footpegs lol. Put both knees down for the first time, it was a great day. I still have the bike, but riding it on dead straight highways isn't very appealing anymore. I have to ride 50km one way to get to a road that has a few nice corners and its not a lot of corners lol. So it doesn't get ridden much anymore. I have tried going for group rides with a few Harley riders, but they seem more interested in posing with their bikes at the gas station than actually riding them. Probably because they're terrible bikes and overpriced to boot.

    Anyways, as I was looking up the racetracks in Alberta to find out about the Southern Alberta Solosport Club, which is the club that does the timed solo runs around a course made of cones, usually on a airport runway or some other large expanse of pavement, and I ended up coming across this https://badlandsmotorsportsresort.com/product/reserve/

    My dreams are coming true! I can't believe that they are planning to build a world class motorsport resort like this so (relatively close, 250 km) away. I will be doing a bunch of research on this today! WOW.
  18. moodyryder

    moodyryder Hardcore Simmer



    The Mrs. used to own a Maclaren.

    Ride on mechanic was a bit of a pest though.

    Still is to be honest.

  19. Emmanuel Tubbiolo

    Emmanuel Tubbiolo Hardcore Simmer


    Getting somewhere. I know what yous mean about TC but I have it at 1. Can't control it properly and loosing time at 0.

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  20. Tibor Sólyom

    Tibor Sólyom Hardcore Simmer

    Wow, it's good news! It looks it will be fun track(s), even the member prices are very good :)
    Pretend racer and Totall Wrytoff like this.

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