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Generic Weekly Hotlap Challenge #136 – As quick as Quick Nick

Discussion in 'Console Lounge' started by Totall Wrytoff, Jul 7, 2019.

  1. Welcome to the thread for the Weekly Hotlap Challenge #136 – “As quick as Quick Nick.” It’s the second round of the four week Mini-series, “Convertibles.” It’s summer time, so it’s time to get the roof off.

    The Challenge: Hotlap
    Car: Ferrari F2004
    Track: Nordschleife Endurance Cup
    Speed up your synapses, this week’s going to be a big one. We’re going to run the Ferrari F2004 around the Nordschleife Endurance Cup. It’s a track we have only used once, way back in WHC#27 and posted by the main man, Graveltrap.
    We’ve also used the F2004 only once previously. It was April 2018 in Hugo C’s WHC#74 at the Nurburgring GP. The car is mega. Absolutely mega. Even on the compromised, grooved tyres. And you don’t have to press lots of buttons to get a good lap. Ok, he was a a driver in a league of his own, but just have a look at Michael Schumacher’s 2004 season results. Complete domination.
    There’s no doubt we’re going for records this week.
    Obviously the first three things to say about records at the Nordschleife are – 1. Porsche 956, 2. Six minutes, eleven seconds and 3. Stefan Bellof. His lap in May 1983 was an incredible achievement and that lap will always be the record; six minutes eleven in that car was outstanding on every level. Stefan Bellof wears the crown for King of the ‘Ring.
    However we’re using a different circuit and there has been an F1 car driven around this very layout. In April 2007, as I’m sure you know, “Quick” Nick Heidfeld did three laps of the Nordschleife Endurance Cup in the 2006 BMW Sauber F1. Scandalously, it was not at all quick. For “safety reasons,” BMW announced that the car was slowed with hard demonstration tires, run at maximum ride height and limited to only 170mph/ 275 kmh top speed. Also Heidfeld had to slow right down once each lap for a film camera car.
    BMW Sauber announced an official lap time of 8:34!
    However, since the camera car was in a different sector for each lap, astute fans were able to estimate a lap time of around a 7 mins 28 secs.
    Even more punchy, Road & Track magazine reported, around the old Nordschleife, Heidfeld's lap was about 5 mins 57 secs, breaking the track's six-minute barrier for the first time in history. It is very speculative, Road & Track measured the speed in some corners and then calculated the time. Also, according to F1 Racing magazine, BMW engineers had estimated the car could lap in under 5:16, an average of 147 mph (237 kmh.) It’s all a bit of a cop-out.

    But we are not going to cop-out; we’re going to do it. Most definitely! At the very least, we’re going to try!
    It’s madness, but not the horror you’ll be thinking it is. Even on lower downforce settings the car sticks to the road and, shall we say… allows you to test your bravery. To start with it will have so much more in it, on the way into, through and coming out of corners, than you can accept. Long moments pass in a blink.

    Motorcycle racer Graham Crosby said, “the time you spend between the throttle and the brake is a waste of time.”
    We are talking fleeting moments! The F2004 is ready for as fast as you can shrink those fleeting moments and it’s ready to do it even faster. It’s up to you, avoid the big kerbs, get onto the throttle early, push it and you can get on top of this epic circuit.

    It starts with a gentle introduction around the smooth, wide corners of Nurburgring Sprint section, before you plunge away and down into the Green Hell, but think Heaven.

    At first, it’s an eye-widening, vivid, shocking, flurry of apices, gears, brakes and throttle. The greenery is a blur to each side and the grey strip underneath you uncoils like a mesmerising snake. But you soon adjust. It’s a thrilling exercise in fast-forward. It is your impassionate, controlled, precise deployment of a yowling, screaming V10, with brakes like ship anchors on a short chain and an extra-sensory speed of response at your fingertips. You’ll get braver and braver. Where, at a corner a lap before, you were hard on the brakes and down into second, you now, carrying huge speed in fourth just lift slightly, turn in, nail the red-white flash of apex and be gone.
    You’ll be trembling with adrenalin at the end of the lap…. You’ll pit, drop the aero and lengthen the transmission and have another go… because you know you can go quicker.

    The tyres are Soft, Medium and Hard, grooved slicks, the recommended pressure for all types is 23psi.

    How to take part - Hot lap:
    To enter, select Hotlap, choose the Ferrari F2004 and the Nordschleife Endurance Cup circuit. Please setup the session as shown below:
    Mode: Hotlap
    Time of day: Free
    Ambient Temp: 26 Degrees
    Setup: Free
    Controller: Free
    Assists: Free
    Stability: Free

    To qualify for WHC you must have the ambient temp set to 26 DegC.

    Deadline: Sunday 14th July 2019 - 21:00 GMT.

    You can run as many laps as you like and update your times as often as you like. It is all about taking part, testing yourself and enjoying Assetto Corsa. All Platforms are welcome.
    To submit a time, pause the game and select 'session' from the menu and screenshot this page or take a photo of your screen and post it in this thread - Note all the information from the screen is required including temperature, mode heading and of course the car being used!
    Please post video clips and share information in here as well, but without the session screen your time will not be included (placing the session screen in a video clip is acceptable).

    Please use the following format to post your times:
    Your time, to be shown as x.xx.xxx.
    Your platform (PC Xb1 PS4)
    The image or screen shot showing your time.
    Your thoughts and comment

    Please mark updated times with Improvement.

    A leader board is collated regularly. Unfortunately editing of posts gets locked on this forum so this post cannot be updated.
    Specialist Challenges will feature from time to time. These run as monthly mini-series, for example Formula One February or the Anglo-American Challenge These events will be announced in the WHC Thread.

    Weekly Hotlap Challenge History
    1. Mugello - Praga R1 Posted by John Gordon 3rd Oct, 2016 (Console Lounge P55)
    2. Imola - Mercedes SLS GT3
    3. Brands Hatch GP - RUF RT12 Posted by GravelTrap 19th Oct 2016 (Console Lounge P54)
    4. Magione - Lotus 2 Eleven
    5. Silverstone International - Abarth 500 Assetto Corse
    6. Zandvoort - Pagani Huayra
    7. Nurburgring GP (GT) - Alfa Romeo 155 V6 TI
    8. Spa - BMW M3 GT2
    9. Vallelunga Club - KTM X-Bow R
    10. Barcelona - Moto - Shelby Cobra 427 S/C
    11. Silverstone 1967 - Lotus 72D
    12. Nordschleife - Porsche 911 Carrera S
    13. Black Cat County - Ferrari LaFerrari
    14. Monza Junior 1966 - Alfa Romeo GTA
    15. Redbull Ring GP - Lamborghini Gallardo Sl
    16. Zandvoort - Ford Escort RS1600
    17. Imola - Mazda Rx-7 Spirit R
    18. Brands Hatch GP - Lotus Exige V6 Cup
    19. Monza - Ferrari FXX K
    20. Barcelona - Moto - Ferrari 488 GT3
    21. Mugello - Alfa Romeo Giulietta QV
    22. Silverstone GP - Porsche 911 GT3 Cup 2017
    23. Nurburgring Sprint GT - Toyota AE86 Tuned
    24. Magione - Maserati Levante S
    25. Spa - Lotus 98T
    26. Vallelunga - Classic - Porsche 935/78 "Moby Dick"
    27. Nordschleife Endurance Cup - M235i Racing
    28. Silverstone 1967 - Maserati 250F T2 12C
    29. Red Bull Ring National - BMW 1M Posted by HavanaB0B, 1st May 2017 (Console Lounge p28)
    30. Zandvoort - Lotus Evora GX
    31. Barcelona GP - Lotus Exos 125 Stage 1
    32. Brands Hatch Indy - Toyota Supra MKIV Time Attack Posted by by Graveltrap 21st May 2017 (Console Lounge p25)
    33. Black Cat County Long - Lamborghini Countach
    34. Imola - Mercedes Benz 190E Evo II
    35. Monza - Chevrolet Corvette C7R
    36. Nurburgring Sprint GT - BMW M3 E30
    37. Magione - Mercedes SLS AMG
    38. Spa - Porsche 917/30 Spyder
    39. Silverstone GP - Nissan GT-R Nismo Posted by Hugo Catarino,9th July 2017 (Console Lounge p21)
    40. RedBull Ring GP - Alfa Romeo 4c
    41. Brands Hatch GP - Audi R8 LMS Ultra
    42. Highlands Long - Ford GT40
    43. Vallelunga - Lotus GTE Carbon
    44. Zandvoort - Porsche 911 Turbo S Posted by Graveltrap 13th Aug 2017 (Console Lounge p19)
    45. Nordschleife - Ferrari 312T
    46. Mugello - BMW M3 E92
    47. Black Cat County - Short - Ford Mustang 2015
    48. Imola - Maserati MC12 GT1
    49. Silverstone 1967 - Porsche 911 Carrera RSR 3.0
    50. Barcelona Moto - McLaren 570S
    51. Magione - Mazda Miata NA
    52. Spa - Ferrari F40
    53. Vallelunga - Corvette C7 Stingray Posted by Moodyryder 23rd Oct 2017 (Console Lounge p14)
    54. Brands Hatch GP - Tatuus FA01
    55. Highlands - Lotus 3 eleven
    56. Nurburgring GP (GT) - Toyota Celica ST185 4WD Turbo
    57. Monza 1966 Full Course - Ferrari 312/67
    58. Nordschleife - Porsche 962 C Short Tail
    59. Zandvoort- Nissan 370Z Nismo
    60. Silverstone GP - McLaren F1
    61. Vallelunga Classic - Ferrari 250GTO
    62. Imola - Lotus 98T
    63. Highlands Drift - P4/5 Competizione
    64. Mugello - Lamborghini Aventador SV
    65. Spa - Porsche 911R
    66. Black Cat County - Lotus 2-Eleven GT4
    67. Barcelona GP - Ferrari SF70H
    68. Nordschleife Endurance & Highlands - Porsche 917k
    69. Zandvoort - Lotus Exige Scura Posted by Hugo Catarino 25th Feb 2o18 (Console Lounge p7)
    70. RedBull Ring National - Maserati Alfieri
    71. Laguna Seca - Audi Sport quattro S1 E2
    72. Brands Hatch - Mclaren P1
    73. Imola - Porsche 911 RSR
    74. Nurburgring GP - Ferrari F2004
    75. Barcelona Moto - Lamborghini Huracan Performante
    76. Silverstone 1967 - Alfa Romeo 33 Stradale
    77. Magione - BMW 1M Stage 3
    78. Highlands Long - Mazda 787b
    79. Black Cat County - Toyota GT86
    80. Spa - Toyota TS040 Hybrid
    81. Vallelunga Classic - Nissan Skyline R34 V-Spec
    82. Mugello - Ferrari 458 GT2
    83. Silverstone International - RUF R12 R AWD
    84. Highlands Long - Audi R18 e-tron quattro 2014
    85. Monza - Pagani Zonda R
    86. Nordschleife - Lotus 3-eleven
    87. Zandvoort - Maserati GranTurismo MC GT4
    88. Redbull Ring GP - Mercedes Sauber C9
    89. Brands Hatch - Lotus 25
    90. Highlands Short - Abarth 595 SS
    91. Nurburgring GP (GT) - Audi TT Cup
    92. Monza 1966 - Road Course - Porsche 908 LH
    93. Vallelunga - BMW M3 E30 Gr.A 92
    94. Laguna Seca - Alfa Romeo Mito QV
    95. Nordschleife - RUF Yellowbird & Ferrari F40
    96. Barcelona GP - BMW Z4 GT3
    97. Highlands Drift - Ferrari 458 Italia
    98. Spa - Lotus Type 49
    99. Zandvoort - Porsche 911 GT1-98
    100. Silverstone - Nissan GT-R GT3; Brands Hatch - Lotus Exige V6; Vallelunga - free car
    101. Mugello - Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio
    102. Silverstone National - Mazda MX5 Cup or Abarth 500 Assetto Corse
    103. Highlands Short – Ford Escort RS1600 Posted by Totall Wrytoff 11th Nov 2018 (Console Lounge p2)
    104. Black Cat Short – Porsche 917/30
    105. Monza 66 Junior Course – Ferrari F40 S3
    106. Magione – Toyota Supra MkIV
    107. Brands Hatch Indy 5 lap - Porsche 911 GT3 RS
    107. Nurburgring Sprint - Porsche 911 GT3 RS
    108. Nordschleife - Abarth 595SS
    108 Laguna Seca 5 lap - McLaren F1 GTR
    109. Brands Hatch - Ferrari FXX K
    110. Highlands – Lamborghini Muira P400 SV
    111. Imola - Scuderia Glickenhaus SCG 003C
    112. Vallelunga Club – Lotus Exos T125
    113. Highlands Drift - Porsche Cayman GT4 Clubsport
    114. Barcelona Moto - Maserati 250F 6 cylinder
    115. Silverstone GP – Ferrari F138
    116. Laguna Seca – Lotus 72D
    117. Red Bull Ring GP - Ferrari SF15-T
    118. Spa Francochamps – Maserati Quattroporte GTS
    119. Zandvoort – Toyota AE86
    120. Silverstone National – BMW M3 E92 Step 1
    121. Silverstone 1967 – Ford GT40
    122. Nurburgring GP - Porsche 919 Hybrid 2016
    123. Highlands Drift Circuit – Porsche 718 RS 60 Spyder
    124. Nordshleife Endurance – Porsche 962C Long Tail
    125. Red Bull Ring National - Audi R8 V10 Plus
    126. Imola – Ferrari 330 P4
    127. Monza 1966 Road Course - Pagani Huayra BC
    128. Mugello – Ferrari GTO
    129. Vallelunga – Lamborghini Sesto Elemento
    130. Black Cat County – Shelby Cobra 427S/C
    131. Laguna Seca – Lotus Evora GTC
    132. Brands Hatch GP – McLaren MP4 12C
    133. Highlands Long – Chevrolet Corvette C7R
    134. Monza GP – Lamborghinis Gallardo SL S3/ Countach S1
    135. Magione – Mazda MX-5 ND

  2. Lewisxbone

    Lewisxbone Alien

    This is gonna be an extremely challenging one but also very very Nice!!!! Best get the new rim out tomorrow

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  3. Emmanuel Tubbiolo

    Emmanuel Tubbiolo Hardcore Simmer

    I remember having to miss that week with long tail because of my family over. My goal was to learn the track as much as possible for the next time it happens. I did one lap and I still haven't a clue where am going.. anyway from what I understood about the car is I absolutely love it and I actually think it's probably one of the best car to learn the track. It brakes and grip so well. Great intro Totall Wrytoff.
  4. Emmanuel Tubbiolo

    Emmanuel Tubbiolo Hardcore Simmer

    I remember having to miss that week with long tail because of my family over. My goal was to learn the track as much as possible for the next time it happens. I did one lap and I still haven't a clue where am going.. anyway from what I understood about the car is I absolutely love it and I actually think it's probably one of the best car to learn the track. It brakes and grip so well. Great intro Totall Wrytoff.
  5. 6.33.536
    Diving in!
    I did some practise runs (none without a crash) on the old circuit to get the basic settings. Then did a few laps on the Nurburgring GT Sprint to get those corners understood, then went and did this. A few times I could not believe I had kept it straight, a few times where I was cautious and quire a few times where I was massively reckless. But amazingly, it was a first lap, clean lap, and overall, oh yeah, it felt very, very fast.
    Love Island is on, so I'm retreating to the cave to try again.
  6. Both Karussells are tricky, best way is to keep your foot in and drift it through, rolling the left front along the kerb!:D
  7. Biner

    Biner Hardcore Simmer

    ET, you will have company in your initial misery...I've not a clue on the green monster but it's high time I learned it. I have taken the F2004 out for a spin and..well....yes...could be a few days before I am able to post a time and not for lack of trying! Looking forward to it.

    ps - Unlike the Mazda, I'll not feel an ounce of sympathy for burning the rubber off this machine!
  8. pangyorhee

    pangyorhee Racer

    Especially tempting introduction this week!!!

    I shall definitely not cop-out!
    (..... but F1 car and Green Hell~... both are quite diffi... :oops:)

    can't wait to try out Totall Wrytoff recommended Karussell drift!
  9. StyleF1re

    StyleF1re Hardcore Simmer

    6.14.777 / PS4

    Assetto Corsa_89.jpg

    Back in the days when my team was good. And when the cars sounded good. Today? Not so much. Pretty sad seeing Verstappen finesse LeClerc that other race. And Hamilton still has a shot to have a similar line to what Schumacher had in that graphic. Total damn domination! Not looking much better in MotoGP land either with Ducati eating that Honda and Yamaha dust... haha

    Anyway, this finally broke the stranglehold Crash Team Racing: Nitro-Fueled had on me. I ain't quite giving up CTR, but you all best know when the Nordschleife is on over here I'll be on too! And the F2004? Yes! THIS is one of the greatest representations, if not the greatest representation, of a race car I've seen in a sim-racing game. The F2004 is up there with the 312T as one of my favorite Nordschleife Hotlap Challenges as well.

    Did a 6.32 on my first lap in two weeks, as well as a 6.18 on the third attempt and this time a few tries later. All the Nordschleife - Tourist experience paying dividends since that's usually all I play online! After that though I kept messing up from trying to push, not slowing enough, and understeering off into the grass, onto a curb, and sometimes into a railing. And not once did I drive through the banking of the Karussell since I'm a wuss.

    And apologies @Totall Wrytoff for not being able to get back at your quote earlier. I think I only drove either variant of the Miata a handful of times since that previous 2017 challenge. And damn, that was the month I got my Fanatec setup together! Anyway, I seem to gravitate to purely faster or more symphonic machinery in games. And with reality I went from looking at Miatas in the classified many years ago to only looking at sportbikes that can do 160+ mph and breach our local freeway speed limits in just seconds. How times change! haha
  10. Lewisxbone

    Lewisxbone Alien

    What gearing are you guys using? And final ratio?

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  11. sissydriver

    sissydriver Alien

    7.049.272 pc

    136 7 09 272.jpg

    first lap, no crash, medium 80l. a solid start ;)
  12. sissydriver

    sissydriver Alien

    6.35.866 pc improvement

    6 35 866 136.jpg

    soft tyres, enough improvement for today :)
  13. sissydriver

    sissydriver Alien

    6:32.242 improvement

    6 32 242 136.jpg

    cant stop the "schumi" sound... so tempting :cool:
  14. Rod100

    Rod100 Simracer

    Xbox 1

    Still learning the track.
    Slick Soft Tires
    Increased 7th gear to 316km/h
    Aero 16/27
    Brake BIAS to 57%
    Don’t know if the changes make any sense, but I felt more comfortable in turns.

    PS: Regarding last WHC, I was using manual clutch and H shifter. I suppose you were using auto clutch and sequencial gear, right?

    Attached Files:

  15. Peggy11

    Peggy11 Simracer

    Oh my life! This car and this track, pant changing amazing! For you fast guys it must be even more exhilarating. :eek:

    First few laps. 6:39:452 PC


    Possibly more to come if my nerves can handle it for another 6 days :D
  16. Emmanuel Tubbiolo

    Emmanuel Tubbiolo Hardcore Simmer


    Delighted to post my first clean lap. It can only get better I hope. I think I need about 10 WHC to know the track. Still enjoyable though.

    Attached Files:

  17. moodyryder

    moodyryder Hardcore Simmer

    This sort of challenge could end in divorce.

    I've done three laps and already been yapped at.

    Hopefully I might get another try before Sunday.

    If not, here's the video. Plenty of obvious time to gain if only it was neat & tidy.

    I had fuel use off, soft tyres and upped final drive one notch. Otherwise left alone.

    I struggle with single seaters and generally use the roll bar camera.

    StyleF1re, LXM323, pangyorhee and 9 others like this.
  18. Improvement
    Had time for a quick go. My wife seems OK.:D
    @Lewisxbone - aero is F4 , R6, I think top gear is set for 220mph, I'm hitting 210ish mph and I increased bumpstop and packer for more suspension travel, all else I've left alone for nowo_O
    Biner, Peggy11, sissydriver and 6 others like this.
  19. No problem, didn't notice, I can't remember that far back.

    There was something about a donkey that is due further explanation though...

    But what an outstanding lap @StyleF1re, 6.14 is a great time - wow!:cool:
    Good work
    StyleF1re, sissydriver, Biner and 4 others like this.
  20. Pretend racer

    Pretend racer Hardcore Simmer

    6.04.337 pc


    I suppose any car can be frustrating on the green hell but this one is so twitchy, any mistake is instant death, (I almost wish I had an F1 wheel for the t500). I had so many restarts that I actually earned an achievement that I thought I'd never get. See if you can spot it in the video. I don't know who made the setup - I think I got it off of the setup market. Anyways, I adjusted psi, fuel, and the tc. The setup is at the end of the video.
    Its quite a loose setup but it makes it more fun to drive and that's how I like it.

    I think the best possible time will probably be done by someone who can do two laps in a row. The second lap will be quicker because the tires will be at the right temps at the beginning of the lap. My tires weren't up to the right temps forever. I might still want to drop the psi a bit, but its a balancing act of where on the track you want optimal traction, and then make sure the tires last the whole lap.

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