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Generic Weekly Hotlap Challenge #147 – Tibor kísértése - Go To Kart.

Discussion in 'Console Lounge' started by Totall Wrytoff, Sep 22, 2019.

  1. Welcome to the thread for the Weekly Hotlap Challenge #147 – Tibor kísértése - Go To Kart.

    As we come up to the 150th Anniversary of the WHC, we are going to be celebrating the milestone with a series of challenges chosen in co-operation with those who have played a significant role in the WHC, The Legends of WHC!

    Quick reminder to all, please could you include your name and format as described below when posting your times.

    The Challenge: Hotlap
    Car: KTM X-Bow R
    Track: Laguna Seca
    This week’s Challenge revives previous co-operation with a WHC legend and I’m hoping it might tempt him back! “Tibor’s temptation,” in Google’s best Hungarian! The Challenge is my choice of car, at his favourite circuit. Or, one of them. I had to choose between three. For the choice of car, I have a sneaking suspicion that a KTM would be sitting alongside a Panamera in his fantasy garage. It’s one of my favourite cars in the game too. We have used the KTM only once, waaay back in WHC#9, which was over two and a half years ago! Forty drivers entered @Graveltrap ‘s “Short but Sweet” event back in November 2016, one of the biggest WHC gatherings, so I’m hoping….

    KTM developed the X-Bow in collaboration with Kiska Design, Audi, and Dallara. Originally, KTM had planned to produce 500 units per year, but almost immediately had to double that to 1,000 a year and then build a new plant near Graz due to the enthusiastic demand. It’s not just me that likes it. The X-Bow R was introduced in 2011, three years into production, and featured a host of tweaks including lowering the position of Audi’s TFSI engine in the chassis and giving it a larger turbocharger, reprogrammed Bosch engine management and new fuel injectors.

    The KTM X-Bow R is so hot on its offer of no-frills motoring, it is almost a Go-Kart. It’s raw, immediate and direct. Unless you’re doing more than 124mph, there’s no aero to speak of, no power steering, no TCS, no ABS and no flappy-paddles to help you. There’s no weight either, it weighs just 790kg and in the ‘R, the 4 cylinder, 2 litre turbo is tuned to produce a nicely balanced 300bhp and 300lb/ft of torque. In fact, you might think that sounds slightly unbalanced and after last week, you may find it a bit twitchy, with nothing like the grip. But, once you’ve dialled into it, the KTM is on your side around the track. You build up your pace and confidence grows. Turn-in sharpens at speed, slicing the KTM through the corners with the car pivoting directly beneath you, but careful, it’s so easy to get carried away!
    And as you’re sitting there, carving across apices, slotting gears and trying not to watch the front pushrod suspension do its thing, the engine note urges you to the red line with a race-car like blare. This is why the KTM X-Bow R is absolutely excellent. I hope you approve, a jó barátom!:)
    We are in California! Laguna Seca is now known as the WeatherTech Raceway Laguna, is just over 2.2 miles long with a 55 m elevation change. You’ll be looking to carry some serious speed through the circuit’s open curves and concentrating hard on keeping the car pointing in the right direction.

    Two of WHC’s leading drivers appear on the RSR timing sheet for this combi – the fastest time is a blistering 1.30.771. Suffice to say, of the two, I hope one will be defending his time, the other looking to find another 1.7 secs! And of course, the man we hope to tempt back, perhaps passing both!! :D For the rest of us, anything faster than a 1.34 gets you into the top 20. Visors down and gun it!

    We’re back to slippery Semislicks this week.
    Recommended pressures are 31psi front, 32psi rear.

    How to take part - Hot lap:
    To enter, select Hotlap, choose the KTM X-Bow R and the Laguna Seca circuit.
    Please setup the session as shown below:
    Mode: Hotlap
    Time of day: Free
    Ambient Temp: 26 Degrees
    Setup: Free
    Controller: Free
    Assists: Free
    Stability: Free
    To qualify you must have the ambient temp set to 26 DegC.

    Deadline: Sunday 29th September 2019 - by 18:00 GMT.
    Chequered Flag will drop shortly before 6pm.

    You can run as many laps as you like and update your times as often as you like. It is all about taking part, pushing yourself and enjoying Assetto Corsa. All Platforms are welcome.
    To submit a time, pause the game and select 'session' from the menu and screenshot this page or take a photo of your screen and post it in this thread - Note all the information from the screen is required including temperature, mode heading and of course the car being used!
    Please post video clips and share information in here as well, but without the session screen your time will not be included (placing the session screen in a video clip is acceptable).

    Please use the following format to post your times:

    Improvement (Only required if you have already posted a time)

    Your name (as you would like it to appear on the leaderboard)
    Your time- shown as x.xx.xxx.
    Your platform (PC Xb1 PS4)
    The screen shot showing your time.
    (Optional but in the spirit) Your thoughts and comment

    A leader board is collated regularly. Specialist Challenges will feature from time to time. These run as monthly mini-series, for example Formula One February or the Anglo-American Challenge These events will be announced in the WHC Thread.

    Weekly Hotlap Challenge History
    1. Mugello - Praga R1 Posted by John Gordon 3rd Oct, 2016 (Console Lounge P55)
    2. Imola - Mercedes SLS GT3
    3. Brands Hatch GP - RUF RT12 Posted by GravelTrap 19th Oct 2016 (Console Lounge P54)
    4. Magione - Lotus 2 Eleven
    5. Silverstone International - Abarth 500 Assetto Corse
    6. Zandvoort - Pagani Huayra
    7. Nurburgring GP (GT) - Alfa Romeo 155 V6 TI
    8. Spa - BMW M3 GT2
    9. Vallelunga Club - KTM X-Bow R
    10. Barcelona - Moto - Shelby Cobra 427 S/C
    11. Silverstone 1967 - Lotus 72D
    12. Nordschleife - Porsche 911 Carrera S
    13. Black Cat County - Ferrari LaFerrari
    14. Monza Junior 1966 - Alfa Romeo GTA
    15. Redbull Ring GP - Lamborghini Gallardo Sl
    16. Zandvoort - Ford Escort RS1600
    17. Imola - Mazda Rx-7 Spirit R
    18. Brands Hatch GP - Lotus Exige V6 Cup
    19. Monza - Ferrari FXX K
    20. Barcelona - Moto - Ferrari 488 GT3
    21. Mugello - Alfa Romeo Giulietta QV
    22. Silverstone GP - Porsche 911 GT3 Cup 2017
    23. Nurburgring Sprint GT - Toyota AE86 Tuned
    24. Magione - Maserati Levante S
    25. Spa - Lotus 98T
    26. Vallelunga - Classic - Porsche 935/78 "Moby Dick"
    27. Nordschleife Endurance Cup - M235i Racing
    28. Silverstone 1967 - Maserati 250F T2 12C
    29. Red Bull Ring National - BMW 1M Posted by HavanaB0B, 1st May 2017 (Console Lounge p28)
    30. Zandvoort - Lotus Evora GX
    31. Barcelona GP - Lotus Exos 125 Stage 1
    32. Brands Hatch Indy - Toyota Supra MKIV Time Attack Posted by by Graveltrap 21st May 2017 (C.L.p25)
    33. Black Cat County Long - Lamborghini Countach
    34. Imola - Mercedes Benz 190E Evo II
    35. Monza - Chevrolet Corvette C7R
    36. Nurburgring Sprint GT - BMW M3 E30
    37. Magione - Mercedes SLS AMG
    38. Spa - Porsche 917/30 Spyder
    39. Silverstone GP - Nissan GT-R Nismo Posted by Hugo Catarino,9th July 2017 (Console Lounge p21)
    40. RedBull Ring GP - Alfa Romeo 4c
    41. Brands Hatch GP - Audi R8 LMS Ultra
    42. Highlands Long - Ford GT40
    43. Vallelunga - Lotus GTE Carbon
    44. Zandvoort - Porsche 911 Turbo S Posted by Graveltrap 13th Aug 2017 (Console Lounge p19)
    45. Nordschleife - Ferrari 312T
    46. Mugello - BMW M3 E92
    47. Black Cat County - Short - Ford Mustang 2015
    48. Imola - Maserati MC12 GT1
    49. Silverstone 1967 - Porsche 911 Carrera RSR 3.0
    50. Barcelona Moto - McLaren 570S
    51. Magione - Mazda Miata NA
    52. Spa - Ferrari F40
    53. Vallelunga - Corvette C7 Stingray Posted by Moodyryder 23rd Oct 2017 (Console Lounge p14)
    54. Brands Hatch GP - Tatuus FA01
    55. Highlands - Lotus 3 eleven
    56. Nurburgring GP (GT) - Toyota Celica ST185 4WD Turbo
    57. Monza 1966 Full Course - Ferrari 312/67
    58. Nordschleife - Porsche 962 C Short Tail
    59. Zandvoort- Nissan 370Z Nismo
    60. Silverstone GP - McLaren F1
    61. Vallelunga Classic - Ferrari 250GTO
    62. Imola - Lotus 98T
    63. Highlands Drift - P4/5 Competizione
    64. Mugello - Lamborghini Aventador SV
    65. Spa - Porsche 911R
    66. Black Cat County - Lotus 2-Eleven GT4
    67. Barcelona GP - Ferrari SF70H
    68. Nordschleife Endurance & Highlands - Porsche 917k
    69. Zandvoort - Lotus Exige Scura Posted by Hugo Catarino 25th Feb 2o18 (Console Lounge p7)
    70. RedBull Ring National - Maserati Alfieri
    71. Laguna Seca - Audi Sport quattro S1 E2
    72. Brands Hatch - McLaren P1
    73. Imola - Porsche 911 RSR
    74. Nurburgring GP - Ferrari F2004
    75. Barcelona Moto - Lamborghini Huracan Performante
    76. Silverstone 1967 - Alfa Romeo 33 Stradale
    77. Magione - BMW 1M Stage 3
    78. Highlands Long - Mazda 787b
    79. Black Cat County - Toyota GT86
    80. Spa - Toyota TS040 Hybrid
    81. Vallelunga Classic - Nissan Skyline R34 V-Spec
    82. Mugello - Ferrari 458 GT2
    83. Silverstone International - RUF R12 R AWD
    84. Highlands Long - Audi R18 e-tron quattro 2014
    85. Monza - Pagani Zonda R
    86. Nordschleife - Lotus 3-eleven
    87. Zandvoort - Maserati GranTurismo MC GT4
    88. Redbull Ring GP - Mercedes Sauber C9
    89. Brands Hatch - Lotus 25
    90. Highlands Short - Abarth 595 SS
    91. Nurburgring GP (GT) - Audi TT Cup
    92. Monza 1966 - Road Course - Porsche 908 LH
    93. Vallelunga - BMW M3 E30 Gr.A 92
    94. Laguna Seca - Alfa Romeo Mito QV
    95. Nordschleife - RUF Yellowbird & Ferrari F40
    96. Barcelona GP - BMW Z4 GT3
    97. Highlands Drift - Ferrari 458 Italia
    98. Spa - Lotus Type 49
    99. Zandvoort - Porsche 911 GT1-98
    100. Silverstone - Nissan GT-R GT3; Brands Hatch - Lotus Exige V6; Vallelunga - free car
    101. Mugello - Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio
    102. Silverstone National - Mazda MX5 Cup or Abarth 500 Assetto Corse
    103. Highlands Short – Ford Escort RS1600 Posted by Totall Wrytoff 11th Nov 2018 (Console Lounge p2)
    104. Black Cat Short – Porsche 917/30
    105. Monza 66 Junior Course – Ferrari F40 S3
    106. Magione – Toyota Supra MkIV
    107. Brands Hatch Indy 5 lap - Porsche 911 GT3 RS
    107. Nurburgring Sprint - Porsche 911 GT3 RS
    108. Nordschleife - Abarth 595SS
    108 Laguna Seca 5 lap - McLaren F1 GTR
    109. Brands Hatch - Ferrari FXX K
    110. Highlands – Lamborghini Muira P400 SV
    111. Imola - Scuderia Glickenhaus SCG 003C
    112. Vallelunga Club – Lotus Exos T125
    113. Highlands Drift - Porsche Cayman GT4 Clubsport
    114. Barcelona Moto - Maserati 250F 6 cylinder
    115. Silverstone GP – Ferrari F138
    116. Laguna Seca – Lotus 72D
    117. Red Bull Ring GP - Ferrari SF15-T
    118. Spa Francochamps – Maserati Quattroporte GTS
    119. Zandvoort – Toyota AE86
    120. Silverstone National – BMW M3 E92 Step 1
    121. Silverstone 1967 – Ford GT40
    122. Nurburgring GP - Porsche 919 Hybrid 2016
    123. Highlands Drift Circuit – Porsche 718 RS 60 Spyder
    124. Nordschleife Endurance – Porsche 962C Long Tail
    125. Red Bull Ring National - Audi R8 V10 Plus
    126. Imola – Ferrari 330 P4
    127. Monza 1966 Road Course - Pagani Huayra BC
    128. Mugello – Ferrari GTO
    129. Vallelunga – Lamborghini Sesto Elemento
    130. Black Cat County – Shelby Cobra 427S/C
    131. Laguna Seca – Lotus Evora GTC
    132. Brands Hatch GP – McLaren MP4 12C
    133. Highlands Long – Chevrolet Corvette C7R
    134. Monza GP – Lamborghinis Gallardo SL S3/ Countach S1
    135. Magione – Mazda MX-5 ND
    136. Nordschleife Endurance Cup – Ferrari F2004
    137. Barcelona Moto – Lotus Exige S Roadster
    138. Monza 1966 Full Course – Porsche 918 Spyder
    139. Spa Francochamps – Ferrari 812 Superfast
    140. Zandvoort – Mercedes Benz AMG GT3
    141. Silverstone GP – Porsche Cayman GT4
    142. Vallelunga Classic – Tatuus FA10
    143. Brands Hatch GP - Audi Quattro Sport Step 1
    144. Red Bull Ring GP - Ferrari 488 GTB
    145. Nurburgring GP (GT ) – BMW M3 E30 Group A
    146. Imola – Ferrari 458 Italia Step 3
    147. Laguna Seca – KTM X-Bow R

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  3. sissydriver

    sissydriver Alien


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    RSR world record is so far away :(
  4. SWEET!

    Why? Because apart from having not spent enough time appreciating Kunos’ replication of the awesome Laguna Seca, the KTM has always been my go to ‘scouting car’ every time I’m trying to get to know a new track.

    *not saying I’m in any way shape or form fast with it though.
  5. LeiF

    LeiF Alien



    Fantastic car! Setup needs work though.
  6. Totall Wrytoff
    A few early laps to destroy the confidence, then pitted to sort the tyre pressures. Quick tip? - up 2/3 psi at front and 1/2 at the rear, over the recommended.
    That made things easier, here we go to start.
    Not going to take up @LeiF 's Sunday night challenge this week, he's gone big boy!:D
  7. moodyryder

    moodyryder Hardcore Simmer



    Sunday driver. :)
    F1 nearly went to Laguna Seca.The infield section was built with them in mind.

    They decided on Phoenix instead.

    5th Gear KTM piece:


    For no particular reason:
  8. Nice vids @moodyryder!
    I love those car v bike features, but in this case I think the biker was being very generous, just to stay in shot! He should have been through T1 and gone!

    Who's the mad nutter on the bike? Watching that gave me bike-and-track fear again!!:D
  9. Improvement
    Lowered the rear, took off some rear camber and took the toe out. Nearly one sec better and should have been a 33.
    BTW, it's six weeks since the new driving hardware arrived and I've shed most of the G29 habits and starting to feel the benefits.:)
  10. DriverModFTW

    DriverModFTW Hardcore Simmer

    Been a long while since I've driven on my sim rig, especially a/c. I am beyond rusty and have no setup for this car or time to set it up but here is a time anyway. Hope everyone has been well. Wish I had more time to participate like I used to.

  11. Mind sharing what this G29 habits are, sir? I think I might've missed the initial discussion.
    I used to drive a T150 which gas pedal springs subsequently broke, so I then upgraded to the G29 with shifters and all (it was the cheapest package available with all the peripherals). Having tried both, I do feel like the Thrustmaster with its hybrid belt+gear drive offers more minute resolution in terms of feedback, especially round the center. It was better at communicating the early stages of the car's rear stepping out.
    Would be interested to learn what kind of bad habits I need to watch out for.
  12. You did! (WHC 141, page 1:))
    I got a Fanatec CSL wheel, shifter and Clubsport pedals in for my birthday in August. There is quite a difference and having used Logitech for so long (20yrs!), the Fanatec took/ is taking some getting used to.
    I could go on for pages!
    Principally the two main differences are braking and turning in, and both are to do with "feel."
    With the G29, I had got used to taking a "couple of goes" to turn in - the point at which the G29 wheel starts to have an effect, away from the the centre, is very vague. So I was turning in, feeling the effect of the input and then adjusting, almost like two goes at turning in. Now, I can smoothly apply the right amount of lock, like one does in a real car!
    The braking is transformed. The Clubsport pedals are sooooo feelsome, so for braking, the modulation that Pretend racer was referring to last week, is much easier to manage and it's much easier to avoid locking the wheels. I'm still playing with the settings because you can adjust the pedal pressure.
    I have to say, the G29 is excellent for it's price point, but wow, the game has moved on!
    Do PM me if you want to discuss, I don't want to bore everyone rigid on the forum!!:)
    StyleF1re, Rod100, Biner and 4 others like this.
  13. Lewisxbone

    Lewisxbone Alien



    Missed out on this car the first time round so thanks TW for using it again.
    Once I get used to it and stop sliding and wheel spinning on every corner I might improve a little bit more.
    Managed to get down from 1.37.8
    I really struggle with this track but I’m slowly remembering it from the last time we used it.
    I most definitely ain’t getting any where near Andy R’s incredible 1:30.7 on RSR. Wow!!

    Sent from my iPhone Xs Max using Tapatalk
    Last edited: Sep 23, 2019
  14. DriverModFTW

    DriverModFTW Hardcore Simmer

    So many videos and opinion about whether or not better equipment makes you faster. In my opinion, with my short time of experience, I have to say better equipment yields faster laps times and most importantly better consistency. From starting on a g920/29 setup and moving to the thrustmaster tcxw the difference is night and day. WHC 127, pagani at old monza, I set my fastest time with thrustmaster setup. Went to my buddies house that weekend and went back on the old rig I started on (g920) and couldn't even get within a second of my time from thrustmaster/pc rig. My opinion from this observation is based on evidence. Sure the pedals absolutely SUCK on my thrustmaster rig (the brake pedal is terrible conical mod or not). I am still faster from the increased/better feedback through the wheel. I know for a fact if I upgraded to a load cell pedal set I would be even quicker than I am now even with minimal practice since it is just more realistic than trying to memorize pedal travel points (ridiculous method, god bless if you can do it, I can not). Sorry for thread jacking, just had to throw my 2 cents out there..if you think you're fast on g25/27/29 setups even with your pedal mods..give a go on a proper pedal and wheel set and i can almost guarantee after you adjust, you will be faster. Gregor huttu is an anomaly so dont even bring him up lol.
    StyleF1re, Biner, sissydriver and 3 others like this.
  15. Lewisxbone

    Lewisxbone Alien


  16. sissydriver

    sissydriver Alien


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    front camber -1.9deg
    rear height 105mm

    major improvement cause i am driving "softer" - feels slower, is faster o_O



    inspecting the RSR site - found a mistake in my setup.:confused:
    content manager is not always your friend when you use wrong settings....:rolleyes:
    automatic clutch off. :eek:
    Last edited: Sep 23, 2019
  17. Not at all, very interesting. We love shared experience and well expressed opinion, especially for hardware chat!:cool:
  18. sissydriver

    sissydriver Alien

    now i am confused. with auto clutch it doesnt work. what am i doing wrong?
  19. Improvement
    Totall Wrytoff
    Not the big gain I was hoping for!
  20. DriverModFTW

    DriverModFTW Hardcore Simmer

    Can't edit my post so I'll just post again

  21. Improvement
    Totall Wrytoff

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