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Generic Weekly Hotlap Challenge 160 – A muddle of models

Discussion in 'Console Lounge' started by Totall Wrytoff, Jan 4, 2020.

  1. Welcome to W.H.C. 160, the first Weekly Hotlap Challenge thread of the Twenty Twenties!

    Challenge
    Hotlap:
    Car: BMW M3 E30 Step 1
    Track: Mugello
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    We’re off to Tuscany for this first WHC of the new decade, the twenty twenties.
    The obvious choice for this combi would be the 20th car (alphabetically, the Audi Quattro,) and track number twenty, the Nordschleife, but that’s one of the Special Event challenges, erm and we’ve had the Nordschleife fairly recently?
    The BMW M3 E30 Step 1 is a WHC virgin, has a mouthful of a name and it’s a curious car. The E30 M3 was BMW’s base road car from which the various model versions required for homologation were produced, in a limited run. These “specials” varied in their level of alteration, from simply wider wheel arches, for example, to accommodate DTM brakes and ducting, to a full weight reduction treatment, aero body parts and uprated power and transmission units.
    So the car we have in the game is one on a run of 600 E30 M3 cars produced in 1987 (or 1990) by BMW to homologate the M3 for the 1988 Group A Touring Car season. First thing, the answer is yes! It does have more power. But not much. Despite the figures quoted by AC, the first, standard E30s in 1985 produced around 200hp and the first factory tune-up, (ie the Step 1?) using BMW’s S14 two litre, four cylinder engine took the power to 220hp, which is what I think we have here. The car also has non-adjustable aftermarket dampers and lowered springs. In 1990, BMW produced their final factory tuned car. Displacement of the S 14 engine was increased to 2.5 litres and power was up by 18hp to 238, according to BMW.
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    M3 engine bays, M-Sport is on the right.
    https://www.bmw-m.com/en/topics/magazine-article-pool/bmw-m3-e30-portraet.html

    But basically we are driving an E30 M3, the world's most successful road race car and it is sweet. You’ll find the extra 20 or 38 horses precisely between 6,750rpm and 7,000rpm, where there’s a very short lived but definite V-TEC like moment, right before you have to shift up. Like the standard car you’ll enjoy the rewarding manual gearbox, fantastic balance and handling, sharp turn in, satisfying thrust and race car-like pops and bangs from the exhaust.

    Tuscany is one of the most wonderful places in the world, Mugello is one of our favourite circuits and this has to be the world’s best track for corner names. Tactically and alliteratively, maintaining momentum in the M3 at Mugello will be the key task. You’ll hook 5th gear towards the end of the straight, get the braking right into San Donato and the car turns in nicely. The run from Luco to Arrabbiata 1, in mostly 3rd gear, shows off the balance of the chassis and from then on, it is about the flow, holding 4th and keeping as much speed as possible, up and down to Correntaio. Bucine is obviously critical; I presume one could lose hours down the straight with a slow exit from this corner.
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    Three types of tyre are available, and maybe a decision required for your fast laps. Street or Semislicks? But I would urge to try your first few laps using the Street 90s. They deliver a much slower lap, but you can feel that they were what the engineers tuned the chassis for. In your interest, I ran an unscientific test, a lap with each set, completely stock set-up, but with correct tyre pressures:
    Street 90s – 2:26.538
    Street – 2:21.638 - I made a mistake at Bucine and ran a touch wide
    Semislicks – 2:21.007 - I felt I was trying harder with the Semislicks!

    Recommended pressures are:
    ….38psi front and back for both Street tyres
    ….31 psi all round for the Semislicks

    RSR: 2:16.612 is the best time, 2:20.4 or less gets you into the top ten. I think 2:16 is beatable by our best, and don’t forget WHC practice makes perfect!

    Sii veloce e divertiti!

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    How to take part - Hot lap
    To enter, select Hotlap, choose the BMW M3 E30 Step 1 and the Mugello circuit.
    Please setup the session as shown below:

    Mode: Hotlap
    Ambient Temp: 26 Degrees
    Setup: Time of day: Free / Controller: Free / Assists: Free / Stability: Free
    To qualify you must have the ambient temp set to 26 DegC.

    Deadline: Sunday 12th January 2020 - by 18:00 GMT.
    Chequered Flag will drop shortly before 6pm.


    You can run as many laps as you like and update your times as often as you like. It is all about taking part, pushing yourself and enjoying Assetto Corsa. All Platforms are welcome.
    To submit a time, pause the game and select 'session' from the menu and screenshot this page or take a photo of your screen and post it in this thread - Note all the information from the screen is required including temperature, mode heading and of course the car being used!

    Please use the following format to post your times:
    Improvement (Only required if you have already posted a time)
    Your name (as you would like it to appear on the leaderboard)
    Your time - shown as x.xx.xxx.
    Your platform (PC Xb1 PS4)
    The screen shot showing your time.
    (Optional but in the spirit) Your thoughts and comment
    Please post video clips and share information in here as well, but without the correct format or session screen your time will not be included (placing the session screen in a video clip is acceptable).

    Weekly Hotlap Challenge History
    1. Mugello - Praga R1 Posted by John Gordon 3rd Oct, 2016 (Console Lounge P55)
    2. Imola - Mercedes SLS GT3
    3. Brands Hatch GP - RUF RT12 Posted by GravelTrap 19th Oct 2016 (Console Lounge P54)
    4. Magione - Lotus 2 Eleven
    5. Silverstone International - Abarth 500 Assetto Corse
    6. Zandvoort - Pagani Huayra
    7. Nurburgring GP (GT) - Alfa Romeo 155 V6 TI
    8. Spa - BMW M3 GT2
    9. Vallelunga Club - KTM X-Bow R
    10. Barcelona - Moto - Shelby Cobra 427 S/C
    11. Silverstone 1967 - Lotus 72D
    12. Nordschleife - Porsche 911 Carrera S
    13. Black Cat County - Ferrari LaFerrari
    14. Monza Junior 1966 - Alfa Romeo GTA
    15. Redbull Ring GP - Lamborghini Gallardo Sl
    16. Zandvoort - Ford Escort RS1600
    17. Imola - Mazda Rx-7 Spirit R
    18. Brands Hatch GP - Lotus Exige V6 Cup
    19. Monza - Ferrari FXX K
    20. Barcelona - Moto - Ferrari 488 GT3
    21. Mugello - Alfa Romeo Giulietta QV
    22. Silverstone GP - Porsche 911 GT3 Cup 2017
    23. Nurburgring Sprint GT - Toyota AE86 Tuned
    24. Magione - Maserati Levante S
    25. Spa - Lotus 98T
    26. Vallelunga - Classic - Porsche 935/78 "Moby Dick"
    27. Nordschleife Endurance Cup - M235i Racing
    28. Silverstone 1967 - Maserati 250F T2 12C
    29. Red Bull Ring National - BMW 1M Posted by HavanaB0B, 1st May 2017 (Console Lounge p28)
    30. Zandvoort - Lotus Evora GX
    31. Barcelona GP - Lotus Exos 125 Stage 1
    32. Brands Hatch Indy - Toyota Supra MKIV Time Attack Posted by by Graveltrap 21st May 2017 (C.L.p25)
    33. Black Cat County Long - Lamborghini Countach
    34. Imola - Mercedes Benz 190E Evo II
    35. Monza - Chevrolet Corvette C7R
    36. Nurburgring Sprint GT - BMW M3 E30
    37. Magione - Mercedes SLS AMG
    38. Spa - Porsche 917/30 Spyder
    39. Silverstone GP - Nissan GT-R Nismo Posted by Hugo Catarino,9th July 2017 (Console Lounge p21)
    40. RedBull Ring GP - Alfa Romeo 4c
    41. Brands Hatch GP - Audi R8 LMS Ultra
    42. Highlands Long - Ford GT40
    43. Vallelunga - Lotus GTE Carbon
    44. Zandvoort - Porsche 911 Turbo S Posted by Graveltrap 13th Aug 2017 (Console Lounge p19)
    45. Nordschleife - Ferrari 312T
    46. Mugello - BMW M3 E92
    47. Black Cat County - Short - Ford Mustang 2015
    48. Imola - Maserati MC12 GT1
    49. Silverstone 1967 - Porsche 911 Carrera RSR 3.0
    50. Barcelona Moto - McLaren 570S
    51. Magione - Mazda Miata NA
    52. Spa - Ferrari F40
    53. Vallelunga - Corvette C7 Stingray Posted by Moodyryder 23rd Oct 2017 (Console Lounge p14)
    54. Brands Hatch GP - Tatuus FA01
    55. Highlands - Lotus 3 eleven
    56. Nurburgring GP (GT) - Toyota Celica ST185 4WD Turbo
    57. Monza 1966 Full Course - Ferrari 312/67
    58. Nordschleife - Porsche 962 C Short Tail
    59. Zandvoort- Nissan 370Z Nismo
    60. Silverstone GP - McLaren F1
    61. Vallelunga Classic - Ferrari 250GTO
    62. Imola - Lotus 98T
    63. Highlands Drift - P4/5 Competizione
    64. Mugello - Lamborghini Aventador SV
    65. Spa - Porsche 911R
    66. Black Cat County - Lotus 2-Eleven GT4
    67. Barcelona GP - Ferrari SF70H
    68. Nordschleife Endurance & Highlands - Porsche 917k
    69. Zandvoort - Lotus Exige Scura Posted by Hugo Catarino 25th Feb 2o18 (Console Lounge p7)
    70. RedBull Ring National - Maserati Alfieri
    71. Laguna Seca - Audi Sport quattro S1 E2
    72. Brands Hatch - McLaren P1
    73. Imola - Porsche 911 RSR
    74. Nurburgring GP - Ferrari F2004
    75. Barcelona Moto - Lamborghini Huracan Performante
    76. Silverstone 1967 - Alfa Romeo 33 Stradale
    77. Magione - BMW 1M Stage 3
    78. Highlands Long - Mazda 787b
    79. Black Cat County - Toyota GT86
    80. Spa - Toyota TS040 Hybrid
    81. Vallelunga Classic - Nissan Skyline R34 V-Spec
    82. Mugello - Ferrari 458 GT2
    83. Silverstone International - RUF R12 R AWD
    84. Highlands Long - Audi R18 e-tron quattro 2014
    85. Monza - Pagani Zonda R
    86. Nordschleife - Lotus 3-eleven
    87. Zandvoort - Maserati GranTurismo MC GT4
    88. Redbull Ring GP - Mercedes Sauber C9
    89. Brands Hatch - Lotus 25
    90. Highlands Short - Abarth 595 SS
    91. Nurburgring GP (GT) - Audi TT Cup
    92. Monza 1966 - Road Course - Porsche 908 LH
    93. Vallelunga - BMW M3 E30 Gr.A 92
    94. Laguna Seca - Alfa Romeo Mito QV
    95. Nordschleife - RUF Yellowbird & Ferrari F40
    96. Barcelona GP - BMW Z4 GT3
    97. Highlands Drift - Ferrari 458 Italia
    98. Spa - Lotus Type 49
    99. Zandvoort - Porsche 911 GT1-98
    100. Silverstone - Nissan GT-R GT3;
    100. Brands Hatch - Lotus Exige V6; Vallelunga - free car
    101. Mugello - Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio
    102. Silverstone National - Mazda MX5 Cup or Abarth 500 Assetto Corse
    103. Highlands Short – Ford Escort RS1600 Posted by Totall Wrytoff 11th Nov 2018 (Console Lounge p2)
    104. Black Cat Short – Porsche 917/30
    105. Monza 66 Junior Course – Ferrari F40 S3
    106. Magione – Toyota Supra MkIV
    107. Brands Hatch Indy 5 lap - Porsche 911 GT3 RS
    107. Nurburgring Sprint - Porsche 911 GT3 RS
    108. Nordschleife - Abarth 595SS
    108 Laguna Seca 5 lap - McLaren F1 GTR
    109. Brands Hatch - Ferrari FXX K
    110. Highlands – Lamborghini Miura P400 SV
    111. Imola - Scuderia Glickenhaus SCG 003C
    112. Vallelunga Club – Lotus Exos T125
    113. Highlands Drift - Porsche Cayman GT4 Clubsport
    114. Barcelona Moto - Maserati 250F 6 cylinder
    115. Silverstone GP – Ferrari F138
    116. Laguna Seca – Lotus 72D
    117. Red Bull Ring GP - Ferrari SF15-T
    118. Spa Francorchamps – Maserati Quattroporte GTS
    119. Zandvoort – Toyota AE86
    120. Silverstone National – BMW M3 E92 Step 1
    121. Silverstone 1967 – Ford GT40
    122. Nurburgring GP - Porsche 919 Hybrid 2016
    123. Highlands Drift Circuit – Porsche 718 RS 60 Spyder
    124. Nordschleife Endurance – Porsche 962C Long Tail
    125. Red Bull Ring National - Audi R8 V10 Plus
    126. Imola – Ferrari 330 P4
    127. Monza 1966 Road Course - Pagani Huayra BC
    128. Mugello – Ferrari GTO
    129. Vallelunga – Lamborghini Sesto Elemento
    130. Black Cat County – Shelby Cobra 427S/C
    131. Laguna Seca – Lotus Evora GTC
    132. Brands Hatch GP – McLaren MP4 12C
    133. Highlands Long – Chevrolet Corvette C7R
    134. Monza GP – Lamborghini Gallardo SL S3/ Countach S1
    135. Magione – Mazda MX-5 ND
    136. Nordschleife Endurance Cup – Ferrari F2004
    137. Barcelona Moto – Lotus Exige S Roadster
    138. Monza 1966 Full Course – Porsche 918 Spyder
    139. Spa Francorchamps – Ferrari 812 Superfast
    140. Zandvoort – Mercedes Benz AMG GT3
    141. Silverstone GP – Porsche Cayman GT4
    142. Vallelunga Classic – Tatuus FA10
    143. Brands Hatch GP - Audi Quattro Sport Step 1
    144. Red Bull Ring GP - Ferrari 488 GTB
    145. Nurburgring GP (GT ) – BMW M3 E30 Group A
    146. Imola – Ferrari 458 Italia Step 3
    147. Laguna Seca – KTM X-Bow R
    148. Mugello – Ford GT40
    149. Vallelunga Club – Maserati Levante S
    150. Nordschleife - Lotus 98T
    150. Nordschleife - Nissan Nismo GT-R
    150. Highlands - Mercedes-Benz C9 1989 LM
    150. Brands Hatch Indy - McLaren P1 GTR (Race event)
    151. Barcelona Moto – Lamborghini Huracan ST
    152. Spa Francorchamps – Shelby Cobra 427 S/C
    153. Brands Hatch GP – Porsche 911 Carrera RSR 3.0
    153. Silverstone ’67 – Mercedes SLS AMG (Race event)
    154. Monza GP - Audi R8 LMS 2016
    155. Nurburgring Sprint - Porsche Panamera Turbo (First thread by F1415182235)
    156. Silverstone International - Mazda RX-7 Tuned
    157. Highlands Short - Ferrari 599XX EVO
    158. Barcelona GP - Porsche 962C Short Tail
    159. Monza 1966 Road Course – McLaren 570S
    159. Imola – BMW M4 Akrapovic
    159. Black Cat County Short – Lotus Type 49
    160. Mugello – BMW M3 E30 Step 1
     


  2. sissydriver

    sissydriver Alien

    Sissydriver
    2.19.419
    pc

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    less aero, still too much tyre pressure


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    iconic beauty. wonderful whc!
     
  3. LeiF

    LeiF Alien

    Leif
    2.16.933
    PC

    Couldn't resist having a little go at this magnificent combo! Lowered fuel and removed all the aero, 2 laps in and realised the PSI was wayyyy over, so had a go at correcting that and started again. 3 laps to get comfortable, just got it into the 16's which will do for today :)

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  4. DriverModFTW

    DriverModFTW Hardcore Simmer

    DriverModFTW
    2.17.343
    PC
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    I think I've reached my limit today. Very fun. I've never been great at Mugello. It does have a unique flow, which I do somewhat fall into after a dozen laps. What trips me up is not knowing what the fastest line is for a few corners and when I try to push the brake marker or try to do something different, it just doesnt seem to work. There are quite a few corners that have a very specific way of approaching and trail braking. I just haven't quite figured them out in the short time I put forth here today. I know I'm not finding the absolute limit of the car at all times for every corner, which is very frustrating. As most other things in life, sim racing especially, takes time to figure out. The more time you put in, the more you get out of it. One day when I'm older, like most of the gents here, when I'm settled down, accomplished a few things and successful, I'll finally have the time to put into this hobby. I digress...
     
  5. Totall Wrytoff
    2.18.829
    PS4
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    Just time for a quick run out. On the Semislicks and still need to sort tyre pressures, so presumably, like @LeiF , 3 or 4 more laps should yield a second...or two?:rolleyes:
     
  6. moodyryder

    moodyryder Hardcore Simmer

    moodyryder
    2.18.739
    Ps4

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    Mugello.
    Manual.
    Marvelous.

    Nice one TW.
     
  7. Mustang 500

    Mustang 500 Simracer

    Mustang 500
    2.16.686
    XB1
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    I used the aero settings that @LieF used and the recommended tire pressures for the Semislicks. It is a very easy and satisfying car to drive and I love how it is a stick shift.
     
  8. 365gt

    365gt Hardcore Simmer

    365gt
    2.21.381
    PS4
    Crikey, i have much to learn looking at those times above me.You guys are crushing me:eek:All i did was change the fuel load ,i may as well run with a fuel tank load for all the good it did:eek:


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  9. 365gt

    365gt Hardcore Simmer

    Improvement
    365gt
    2.19.663
    PS4

    Ok,now i'm getting somewhere.I took off some aero front and back and messed around with psi.So far so good:)


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  10. sissydriver

    sissydriver Alien

    improvement
    Sissydriver
    2.18.856
    pc

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    crazy lap.

    many mistakes and even more fun!
     
  11. Biner

    Biner Hardcore Simmer

    Biner
    2:18.971
    PC
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  12. Improvement
    Totall Wrytoff
    2.18.361
    PS4
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    Sorted the tyre pressures, hasn't made much difference.
    The usual sharp reflexes;) maybe have blunted by this evening's corporate "wet Jan" policy.
     
  13. Biner

    Biner Hardcore Simmer

    Improvement
    Biner
    2:18.352
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  14. To those that play on PC:

    On the PS4, so probably applying to all consoles, the "lowest" setting for front toe is + 0.03.
    I would like to try -0.05 to -0.10 but this range is not an option.

    Does the PC set-up options allow a negative front toe?

    If so, that's unfair!:D

    EDIT: It's a level playing field then, no excuses.:)
    Thanks for confirming @Biner
     
    Last edited: Jan 7, 2020
    gamma500, Biner and 365gt like this.
  15. OK @Biner
    I'm now going to have a couple of glasses of water....
    :D
     
  16. Biner

    Biner Hardcore Simmer

    Re: PC front and rear toe - the setup page goes as low as 0...no negative toe!
     
  17. WHC 160 Current Standings

    1. Mustang 500 - 2.16.686 XB1
    2. Leif - 2.16.933 PC
    3. DriverModFTW - 2.17.343 PC
    4. Biner - 2:18.352 PC
    5. Totall Wrytoff - 2.18.361 PS4
    6. Moodyryder - 2.18.739 Ps4
    7. Sissydriver - 2.18.856 PC
    8. 365gt - 2.19.663 PS4



    Observations on the warm-up:

    ** The RSR best time is 2.16.612….we can do it!:cool:**
    ** We are all (very, very nearly) within the RSR Top Ten ranked lap times ;)**
    ** We (mostly) all know we have another 12/10ths available out on track :rolleyes:**
    ** We know, deep inside, that practice makes perfect! :eek::) **
     
  18. Biner

    Biner Hardcore Simmer

    Improvement
    Biner
    2:18.138
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  19. sissydriver

    sissydriver Alien

    improvement
    Sissydriver
    2.17.736
    pc

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  20. Laughing Gravy

    Laughing Gravy Hardcore Simmer

    Laughing Gravy
    2.19.789
    PS4 [​IMG]

    Sent from my SM-G970U using Tapatalk
     

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