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Generic Weekly Hotlap Challenge 162 – More manageable at Magione

Discussion in 'Console Lounge' started by Totall Wrytoff, Jan 18, 2020.

  1. Welcome to the thread for the Weekly Hotlap Challenge 162 – More manageable at Magione?

    Car: Ruf CTR Yellowbird ‘87
    Track: Magione
    For WHC 162 I’m chuffed to propose the Ruf Yellowbird! A true widow-maker! In a word, oversteer. It is chest-wig time chaps. Just try it with 100% turbo, on the Street 90’s tyres with driver aids off. I’ve dialled back a bit on the circuit for this week’s challenge, because, unless your name is Stefan Roser, the car is an almost impossible, rampantly knife-edge-twitchy, handful. I had intended Silverstone, but in five laps of testing, I failed to complete the circuit without spin or penalty. It is more manageable at Magione. In fact this is a great circuit to dial into this car and the long straight allows you to let it rip. And wow! Rip, it most certainly does.
    Even by today’s ridiculous standards (eg; the McLaren 720s? 0-100 in 4.9 secs?) the CTR’s performance numbers are very impressive, let alone when it was released in 1987.
    How about 0-100 mph in 7.3 seconds? In about 1993, I had a drive in a development mule: Cosworth was looking at ways to reduce lag in a high boost turbos and had built 2 development Sierras. The car was officially timed at 0-100 in 8.2 secs. On the roads around Hazelmere in Surrey it felt insanely fast. You’re doing a ton very very quickly, leaving you very little time and space to brake….! It was for sale, but having tried it, I just didn’t trust myself, (I may not have been here writing this) and it was just way too much for public roads. Besides, I didn’t have off street parking.;)
    Here’s an even better number, the Yellowbird does 0–150 mph (241 km/h, yes - 150mph!!) in 14.59 seconds. At the time, the supercar Ferrari F40 was a full two seconds slower. For those of you who haven’t devoured the story of the Yellowbird, it was built by Porsche tuners Ruf, to get a world headline top speed:
    The Ruf CTR (Group C, Turbo Ruf, nicknamed “Yellowbird,”) was based on the 1987 911 Carrera 3.2, not the faster 911 Turbo, because of the 3.2's slightly lower curb weight and critically, because it was narrower, so had a lower drag coefficient.
    The car featured an enlarged and mentally tuned version of the 3.2 litre flat-six, lightened body panels, a roll cage, upgraded suspension and brakes, a custom 5-speed gearbox and lightweight polyurethane bumpers. Aside from boring the 3.2 to 3.4 litres, using the 962 race car ignition, fitting twin-turbochargers and twin intercoolers, the main focus was on aerodynamics. Big work went into reducing high speed drag - the body was de-guttered and seam welded, filler panels smoothed the door pillars and standard wing mirrors replaced with tiny, narrow 935-style versions. It is thin and slippery and designed for 200mph plus.

    The Yellowbird was an absolute result for Ruf, it put them on the map and has since become a legend. In its day the Yellowbird totally outperformed the competition, topping out at 213 mph (342 km/h) - the fastest production car in the world. And probably the most difficult to control. Unless your name is Stefan “massive balls” Roser.
    Despite the poor pic quality, here it is for you, (probably once again!) still scary to watch – Stefan Roser’s laps of the Nordschleife without gloves… or helmet. As well as being the proper way to market a car, it is an example of utter, butt-clenching bravery and lightning quick, but delightfully skilful, helmsmanship: (fun starts properly at 2mins 17sec, remember to breathe occasionally)

    The car came by its nickname during testing by Road & Track magazine. Apparently, on their photo shoot, staff members were pretty spun out by the contrast the bright yellow paintwork created against the cloudy skies. (It was a far out day, man!)
    Ruf manufactured only 29 cars, with another 20–30 cars built from customer Carreras, so there were only about 60 Yellowbirds. Presumably, many of those have “gone through a hedge backwards” at big speeds. In August 2018, a 1989 example, with only 52,200km on the clock, was sold by Sotheby's at Monterey for $1,022,500.

    Magione, the Autodromo di Umbria’s last appearance was way back in WHC 135. It is nobody’s favourite circuit, unless you are lapping the Yellowbird..., in which case it is a lovely, easy circuit, with at least a couple of tricky bits.
    Having bumped down the Start/ Finish straight, it took me several goes to get round the first corner, Curva del Traliccio. On managing oversteer a driving coach once said to me, “if you feel it and react, you are too late.” Anticipate it, get ahead of the car, it should all come together. We might even get a glimpse of why the 911 inspires such enthusiasm from those in the know!
    Exciting del Traliccio in second gear, the turbo really comes in with a bang. You’re facing the other way before you can react. When it snaps you may catch it, but if you haven’t already unwound the lock, it’s coming back the other way. Harder and faster too! Wind the oppo lock on, and then immediately off…. like you have a nervous twitch (see the film.)
    Then, Curvone, err, having bumped and bounced your way down the next straight, will also get your full attention (and full clench-on.) Bumpy at the braking point, turn in at speed, avoid too much kerb, catch it, straighten, slow and turn in to the next right, avoiding too much kerb, same again for the next even tighter right, catch it and breathe….!
    If, in this challenge, you ever have the feeling that you’ve absolutely nailed Curvone and the following right-handers, you ARE a driving God.
    Finally, it is soooo easy to throw away a good lap by spinning out of the last corner, so caution at Curve Muro or there will be instant wall contact and tears! Trust me.

    It will be a big challenge to land a satisfying lap, for me it is a big challenge to just stay on the track, so don’t try to go fast! Take it slowly at the start, turbo at 80% for example, (yeah, right!) use plenty of early brakes, (no, even earlier,) always drive through the corners, go softly with the throttle in 2nd gear and build speed gradually. Phew!

    RSR? Ha! Once again eXistenZ is top of the RSR with a 1:19.294, Pretend racer (currently on hols) is in 8th with a 1:21.450, although this week is more about learning the car than busting records. Least, that’s what I’m saying!

    Three tyre sets available, recommended pressures are:
    ….Street ‘90 & Street Tyres - Front 37psi / Rear 35psi
    ….Semislicks - 33psi all round

    How to take part - Hot lap
    To enter, select Hotlap, choose the Ruf CTR Yellowbird and the Magione Circuit
    Please setup the session as shown below:
    Mode: Hotlap
    Ambient Temp: 26 Degrees
    Setup: Time of day: Free / Controller: Free / Assists: Free / Stability: Free
    To qualify you must have the ambient temp set to 26 DegC.

    Deadline: Sunday 26th January 2020 - by 18:00 GMT.
    Chequered Flag will drop shortly before 6pm.

    You can run as many laps as you like and update your times as often as you like. It is all about taking part, pushing yourself and enjoying Assetto Corsa. All Platforms are welcome.
    To submit a time, pause the game and select 'session' from the menu and screenshot this page or take a photo of your screen and post it in this thread - Note all the information from the screen is required including temperature, mode heading and of course the car being used!
    Please use the following format to post your times:
    Improvement (Only required if you have already posted a time)
    Your name (as you would like it to appear on the leaderboard)
    Your time - shown as x.xx.xxx.
    Your platform (PC Xb1 PS4)
    The screen shot showing your time.
    (Optional but in the spirit) Your thoughts and comment
    Please post video clips and share information in here as well, but without the correct format or session screen your time will not be included (placing the session screen in a video clip is acceptable).

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    162. Magione - Ruf CTR Yellowbird (Posted by Totall Wrytoff)
    Last edited: Jan 18, 2020
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  2. Neilski

    Neilski Alien

    Hoooly fuuup!! You weren't kidding about it being scary :eek:
    He's rather good at catching those slides :D
  3. Totall Wrytoff
    A quick early go, think it was lap 4, where I hung on all the way round, miles away from an ideal line in many/ all corners, but it felt as though I had tried a bit.
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  4. Laughing Gravy

    Laughing Gravy Hardcore Simmer

    Laughing Gravy
    Oh so gentle on the go fast pedal attempting to stay pointed in the right direction.
    If nothing else I'm pleased with the symmetry of the time.[​IMG]

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  5. 365gt

    365gt Hardcore Simmer

    I remember watching this when it first came out on good old VHS ,jaw on the floor moment:eek:.Still does the same thing today,absolutely marvellous:D
  6. LeiF

    LeiF Alien

    Oh my!
    Favourite car on most hated track!!

    Should be interesting :)
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  7. :)
    As I try to justify in the intro, it's not our favourite track. It's a rarely used circuit though and this car makes it much more interesting. Even exciting in places! And bumpy.
    Also, I think the RSR is reachable. I'm only a touch over two secs off..., and not yet fully in control.:)
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  8. LeiF

    LeiF Alien


    Had a little go just now, 3 laps then some adjustments and another couple of laps, man the kerbs are tricky here in this thing :)

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  9. Chaos_Chris

    Chaos_Chris Hardcore Simmer

    That video it terrifying! Not sure I want to subject myself to the terrors of this

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  10. sissydriver

    sissydriver Alien


    1 22 070 162.jpg

    crazy, scaring, challenging :cool::eek::)
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  11. Come on Chris! Madge is a nice. easy circuit.:cool:

    Besides, you can start (like me) with the Turbo at 10%;):D
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  12. Chaos_Chris

    Chaos_Chris Hardcore Simmer


    Inevitably had a few laps. Can’t really get to grips literally with the front end washing out and lack of brakes. One for better drivers than I.

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  13. Improvement
    Totall Wrytoff
    Driving through the last few turns - Zampini, then into and through the Esses - is like trying to run along a greased tightrope after four martinis.
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  14. F1415182235

    F1415182235 Hardcore Simmer

    1:20.284 - X1
    It wont. Stop. Bouncing!
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  15. 365gt

    365gt Hardcore Simmer

    But the question is,have you actually tried this???:p
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  16. Obviously, that's a crazy idea!:D:D
    As you know, three martinis is sufficient... one never has four. :)
    Four makes life very awkward, you won't even need the greased tightrope!
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  17. 365gt

    365gt Hardcore Simmer


    One word from me-----------HELP:eek:

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  18. 365gt

    365gt Hardcore Simmer

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  19. gamma500

    gamma500 Hardcore Simmer


    Oh my!
    About five restarts before getting through the first turn. Five more to figure out the next.
    Oh my!
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  20. GoodGame.eXistenZ

    GoodGame.eXistenZ Hardcore Simmer

    Hi there, nice lap times everyone! Try to position the car as straight as possible coming out of the corner to give it max traction for the straights ahead.
    It is such a beast and no way to stop it.

    Even though I am currently battling a hefty fever and I should be in bed, I gave this one a quick try. There is more time in there, but I just cannot give it 100% as for now.

    Semislicks - all aids off.


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