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Generic Weekly Hotlap Challenge 164 – Learning Curves

Discussion in 'Console Lounge' started by Totall Wrytoff, Feb 1, 2020.

  1. Welcome to the thread for the Weekly Hotlap Challenge 164 - Learning Curves.

    This week's challenge is all about using the superb precision and feedback from the Formula 4 Tatuus, to dissect in detail, analyse and learn the nuances of the Silverstone GP circuit. Time to refine your line.

    Car: Tatuus FA01
    Track: Silverstone GP
    Spring is coming! The tarmac is warming up and in a couple of weeks the sound of Formula 1 engines will reverberate across a valley in Catalunya. That’s exciting. After weeks of saloons, I have an urge for the purity and simplicity of a single seater.
    And Silverstone. Did someone say “I want Silverstone” recently? I’ve thought about nothing else since. Along with “Sequential.” There’s a discussion thread on this in the lounge. I hope they come and enjoy.

    To share the complex combi selection process - the spontaneous, urge-suppressing mid-week idea was, “get back to basics in the Tatuus.” But, we used the car relatively recently, in WHC 142. (Aug ’19) The Ferrari stable offers a number of single seaters, but not the ideal choice of steeds for early (ie: gentle) pre-season warm-up. Lotus, typically, (Dany Bahar!) has a couple of wrong’uns, the Exit and Exit Step 1. But, the bonkers, misplaced, utterly incomprehensible, C. Chapman-spinning Exit idea by Lotus leaves a ghastly taste in the mouth. I did a few test laps around Silverstone in the no-stepped Lotus and it’s fast and frantic. Not pure and simple. In comparison, the Tatuus is twenty seconds slower, but twenty times more satisfying. And it has a sequential gearbox, which I find hugely amusing. The unusual, clutch-less sequential change gives me a massive co-ordination problem. I find my left foot subconsciously depressing the brake pedal as I go to change gear! After nearly 40 years of pushing my left foot down as my left hand touches a gear stick, I’m now trying to make new and unfamiliar synaptic pathways instinctive. Or put more simply, my brain doesn’t work very well.

    Of course you will have carefully read and remember my intro post for WHC142, where I told you all about the Tatuus. If not here is a quick re-cap:
    The The Tatuus FA010 is a Formula 4 racing car. Tatuus is an Italian chassis manufacturer approved by the FIA to supply Formula 4. The Tatuus FA01 is a carbon composite monocoque with an inline, 4 cyl, 1.4L turbo, which delivers around 200hp and 250Nm (184lb/ft) of torque. The car weighs under 500kgs without driver. Luckily that’s not a factor here! Transmission is via a sintered, twin-plate clutch, a sequential six-speed gearbox and Limited Slip Diff.
    The Silverstone GP Circuit.
    It’s legendary.
    For the unwary, it can and will completely devour the pads and discs of your road car in less than 5 laps. And I mean so completely, you’re looking for a lift home….
    Silverstone full Grand Prix Circuit is where things get serious, it is where the big boys play, it is the senior school of circuits. It is a proper test. People are all very serious. I wanted to run the Ruf round here…. Ho ho at that thought!

    So the scene is set. It is “big boy” practice time. The Tatuus is just sweet. It is precise. Surface detail and driving nuance is sharply highlighted. You feel you need to keep the engine on the boil, the brakes will lock if you are clumsy, but it is a delight to position accurately, which you will have plenty of time to do, compared to the Exit and very rewarding in the way is allows you to perfect the craft of shaving tenths. Too early, or late, on the brakes, steering wheel or throttle and the fluff is amplified. The car shouts about the tenths you’ve just lost. You feel, in acute detail, where you have fluffed and therefore exactly what you should do next time. At each turn of each lap you will be slowly tightening the line, honing and improving by noticeable margin. It’s very satisfying. A dab of brakes on the way into Abbey becomes a just a lift-off, next lap it’s down to just a hover… is it flat…? It is absorbing, more-ish and challenging, with a the added twist of new co-ordination skills to master, for some.
    To set-up the Tatuus to your exact preference, simply have a look at the link below.

    RSR times…? Hmmm, leaves a bad taste etc and not sure it is now of any relevance.
    The fastest time (shown) is a 1:58.4.
    GoodGame.eXistenz will have done a 1:57 or 1:56 then…
    Pretend racer who set a time in October last year (?) is down in 24th place with a 2:00.679.
    Normal people and those that have just changed FOV and those switching from console to PC will be between a fairly wide range of 2:05s to 2:15s! Those that have done both… has his work cut out!

    Tyres are slicks, Soft, Medium and Hard compound with a recommended pressure of 25 psi all round.

    How to take part - Hot lap

    To enter, select Hotlap, choose the Tatuus FA01 and the Silverstone GP Circuit
    Please setup the session as shown below:
    Mode: Hotlap
    Ambient Temp: 26 Degrees
    Setup: Time of day: Free / Controller: Free / Assists: Free / Stability: Free
    To qualify you must have the ambient temp set to 26 DegC.

    Deadline: Sunday 9th February 2020 - by 18:00 GMT.
    Chequered Flag will drop shortly before 6pm.

    You can run as many laps as you like and update your times as often as you like. It is all about taking part, pushing yourself and enjoying Assetto Corsa. All Platforms are welcome.
    To submit a time, pause the game and select 'session' from the menu and screenshot this page or take a photo of your screen and post it in this thread - Note all the information from the screen is required including temperature, mode heading and of course the car being used!
    Please use the following format to post your times:
    (Only required if you have already posted a time)
    Your name (as you would like it to appear on the leaderboard)
    Your time - shown as x.xx.xxx.
    Your platform (PC Xb1 PS4)
    The screen shot showing your time.
    (Optional but in the spirit) Your thoughts or any comment
    Please post video clips and share information in here as well.

    Failure to use the correct format is considered by all as very sloppy and can make the admin very slightly more complicated. You run the risk of adverse comment. Additional infringement generates a personal message from Head of Admin. If, astonishingly, that is not enough, your relationship with the WHC will be extremely rocky and your lap times may not feature in the standings.

    Weekly Hotlap Challenge History

    1. Mugello - Praga R1 Posted by John Gordon 3rd Oct, 2016 (Console Lounge P55)
    2. Imola - Mercedes SLS GT3
    3. Brands Hatch GP - RUF RT12 Posted by GravelTrap 19th Oct 2016 (Console Lounge P54)
    4. Magione - Lotus 2 Eleven
    5. Silverstone International - Abarth 500 Assetto Corse
    6. Zandvoort - Pagani Huayra
    7. Nurburgring GP (GT) - Alfa Romeo 155 V6 TI
    8. Spa - BMW M3 GT2
    9. Vallelunga Club - KTM X-Bow R
    10. Barcelona - Moto - Shelby Cobra 427 S/C
    11. Silverstone 1967 - Lotus 72D
    12. Nordschleife - Porsche 911 Carrera S
    13. Black Cat County - Ferrari LaFerrari
    14. Monza Junior 1966 - Alfa Romeo GTA
    15. Redbull Ring GP - Lamborghini Gallardo Sl
    16. Zandvoort - Ford Escort RS1600
    17. Imola - Mazda Rx-7 Spirit R
    18. Brands Hatch GP - Lotus Exige V6 Cup
    19. Monza - Ferrari FXX K
    20. Barcelona - Moto - Ferrari 488 GT3
    21. Mugello - Alfa Romeo Giulietta QV
    22. Silverstone GP - Porsche 911 GT3 Cup 2017
    23. Nurburgring Sprint GT - Toyota AE86 Tuned
    24. Magione - Maserati Levante S
    25. Spa - Lotus 98T
    26. Vallelunga - Classic - Porsche 935/78 "Moby Dick"
    27. Nordschleife Endurance Cup - M235i Racing
    28. Silverstone 1967 - Maserati 250F T2 12C
    29. Red Bull Ring National - BMW 1M Posted by HavanaB0B, 1st May 2017 (Console Lounge p28)
    30. Zandvoort - Lotus Evora GX
    31. Barcelona GP - Lotus Exos 125 Stage 1
    32. Brands Hatch Indy - Toyota Supra MKIV Time Attack Posted by by Graveltrap 21st May 2017 (C.L.p25)
    33. Black Cat County Long - Lamborghini Countach
    34. Imola - Mercedes Benz 190E Evo II
    35. Monza - Chevrolet Corvette C7R
    36. Nurburgring Sprint GT - BMW M3 E30
    37. Magione - Mercedes SLS AMG
    38. Spa - Porsche 917/30 Spyder
    39. Silverstone GP - Nissan GT-R Nismo Posted by Hugo Catarino,9th July 2017 (Console Lounge p21)
    40. RedBull Ring GP - Alfa Romeo 4c
    41. Brands Hatch GP - Audi R8 LMS Ultra
    42. Highlands Long - Ford GT40
    43. Vallelunga - Lotus GTE Carbon
    44. Zandvoort - Porsche 911 Turbo S Posted by Graveltrap 13th Aug 2017 (Console Lounge p19)
    45. Nordschleife - Ferrari 312T
    46. Mugello - BMW M3 E92
    47. Black Cat County - Short - Ford Mustang 2015
    48. Imola - Maserati MC12 GT1
    49. Silverstone 1967 - Porsche 911 Carrera RSR 3.0
    50. Barcelona Moto - McLaren 570S
    51. Magione - Mazda Miata NA
    52. Spa - Ferrari F40
    53. Vallelunga - Corvette C7 Stingray Posted by Moodyryder 23rd Oct 2017 (Console Lounge p14)
    54. Brands Hatch GP - Tatuus FA01
    55. Highlands - Lotus 3 eleven
    56. Nurburgring GP (GT) - Toyota Celica ST185 4WD Turbo
    57. Monza 1966 Full Course - Ferrari 312/67
    58. Nordschleife - Porsche 962 C Short Tail
    59. Zandvoort- Nissan 370Z Nismo
    60. Silverstone GP - McLaren F1
    61. Vallelunga Classic - Ferrari 250GTO
    62. Imola - Lotus 98T
    63. Highlands Drift - P4/5 Competizione
    64. Mugello - Lamborghini Aventador SV
    65. Spa - Porsche 911R
    66. Black Cat County - Lotus 2-Eleven GT4
    67. Barcelona GP - Ferrari SF70H
    68. Nordschleife Endurance & Highlands - Porsche 917k
    69. Zandvoort - Lotus Exige Scura Posted by Hugo Catarino 25th Feb 2o18 (Console Lounge p7)
    70. RedBull Ring National - Maserati Alfieri
    71. Laguna Seca - Audi Sport quattro S1 E2
    72. Brands Hatch - McLaren P1
    73. Imola - Porsche 911 RSR
    74. Nurburgring GP - Ferrari F2004
    75. Barcelona Moto - Lamborghini Huracan Performante
    76. Silverstone 1967 - Alfa Romeo 33 Stradale
    77. Magione - BMW 1M Stage 3
    78. Highlands Long - Mazda 787b
    79. Black Cat County - Toyota GT86
    80. Spa - Toyota TS040 Hybrid
    81. Vallelunga Classic - Nissan Skyline R34 V-Spec
    82. Mugello - Ferrari 458 GT2
    83. Silverstone International - RUF R12 R AWD
    84. Highlands Long - Audi R18 e-tron quattro 2014
    85. Monza - Pagani Zonda R
    86. Nordschleife - Lotus 3-eleven
    87. Zandvoort - Maserati GranTurismo MC GT4
    88. Redbull Ring GP - Mercedes Sauber C9
    89. Brands Hatch - Lotus 25
    90. Highlands Short - Abarth 595 SS
    91. Nurburgring GP (GT) - Audi TT Cup
    92. Monza 1966 - Road Course - Porsche 908 LH
    93. Vallelunga - BMW M3 E30 Gr.A 92
    94. Laguna Seca - Alfa Romeo Mito QV
    95. Nordschleife - RUF Yellowbird & Ferrari F40
    96. Barcelona GP - BMW Z4 GT3
    97. Highlands Drift - Ferrari 458 Italia
    98. Spa - Lotus Type 49
    99. Zandvoort - Porsche 911 GT1-98
    100. Silverstone - Nissan GT-R GT3;
    100. Brands Hatch - Lotus Exige V6; Vallelunga - free car
    101. Mugello - Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio
    102. Silverstone National - Mazda MX5 Cup or Abarth 500 Assetto Corse
    103. Highlands Short – Ford Escort RS1600 Posted by Totall Wrytoff 11th Nov 2018 (Console Lounge p2)
    104. Black Cat Short – Porsche 917/30
    105. Monza 66 Junior Course – Ferrari F40 S3
    106. Magione – Toyota Supra MkIV
    107. Brands Hatch Indy 5 lap - Porsche 911 GT3 RS
    107. Nurburgring Sprint - Porsche 911 GT3 RS
    108. Nordschleife - Abarth 595SS
    108 Laguna Seca 5 lap - McLaren F1 GTR
    109. Brands Hatch - Ferrari FXX K
    110. Highlands – Lamborghini Miura P400 SV
    111. Imola - Scuderia Glickenhaus SCG 003C
    112. Vallelunga Club – Lotus Exos T125
    113. Highlands Drift - Porsche Cayman GT4 Clubsport
    114. Barcelona Moto - Maserati 250F 6 cylinder
    115. Silverstone GP – Ferrari F138
    116. Laguna Seca – Lotus 72D
    117. Red Bull Ring GP - Ferrari SF15-T
    118. Spa Francorchamps – Maserati Quattroporte GTS
    119. Zandvoort – Toyota AE86
    120. Silverstone National – BMW M3 E92 Step 1
    121. Silverstone 1967 – Ford GT40
    122. Nurburgring GP - Porsche 919 Hybrid 2016
    123. Highlands Drift Circuit – Porsche 718 RS 60 Spyder
    124. Nordschleife Endurance – Porsche 962C Long Tail
    125. Red Bull Ring National - Audi R8 V10 Plus
    126. Imola – Ferrari 330 P4
    127. Monza 1966 Road Course - Pagani Huayra BC
    128. Mugello – Ferrari GTO
    129. Vallelunga – Lamborghini Sesto Elemento
    130. Black Cat County – Shelby Cobra 427S/C
    131. Laguna Seca – Lotus Evora GTC
    132. Brands Hatch GP – McLaren MP4 12C
    133. Highlands Long – Chevrolet Corvette C7R
    134. Monza GP – Lamborghini Gallardo SL S3/ Countach S1
    135. Magione – Mazda MX-5 ND
    136. Nordschleife Endurance Cup – Ferrari F2004
    137. Barcelona Moto – Lotus Exige S Roadster
    138. Monza 1966 Full Course – Porsche 918 Spyder
    139. Spa Francorchamps – Ferrari 812 Superfast
    140. Zandvoort – Mercedes Benz AMG GT3
    141. Silverstone GP – Porsche Cayman GT4
    142. Vallelunga Classic – Tatuus FA10
    143. Brands Hatch GP - Audi Quattro Sport Step 1
    144. Red Bull Ring GP - Ferrari 488 GTB
    145. Nurburgring GP (GT ) – BMW M3 E30 Group A
    146. Imola – Ferrari 458 Italia Step 3
    147. Laguna Seca – KTM X-Bow R
    148. Mugello – Ford GT40
    149. Vallelunga Club – Maserati Levante S (Posted by Graveltrap!)
    150. Nordschleife - Lotus 98T (Posted by Totall Wrytoff)
    150. Nordschleife - Nissan Nismo GT-R
    150. Highlands - Mercedes-Benz C9 1989 LM
    150. Brands Hatch Indy - McLaren P1 GTR (Race event)
    151. Barcelona Moto – Lamborghini Huracan ST
    152. Spa Francorchamps – Shelby Cobra 427 S/C
    153. Brands Hatch GP – Porsche 911 Carrera RSR 3.0
    153. Silverstone ’67 – Mercedes SLS AMG (Race event)
    154. Monza GP - Audi R8 LMS 2016
    155. Nurburgring Sprint - Porsche Panamera Turbo (First thread by F1415182235)
    156. Silverstone International - Mazda RX-7 Tuned
    157. Highlands Short - Ferrari 599XX EVO
    158. Barcelona GP - Porsche 962C Short Tail
    159. Monza 1966 Road Course – McLaren 570S (Posted by Totall Wrytoff)
    159. Imola – BMW M4 Akrapovic
    159. Black Cat County Short – Lotus Type 49
    160. Mugello – BMW M3 E30 Step 1
    161. Spa Francochamps – McLaren 650s GT3 (The return of moodyryder)
    162. Magione - Ruf CTR Yellowbird (Posted by Totall Wrytoff)
    163. Highlands Drift – Lotus Elise SC Step 1
    164. Silverstone GP - Tatuus FA01
    Last edited: Feb 1, 2020

  2. sissydriver

    sissydriver Alien


    2 03 761 164.jpg


    first day after brexit, the livery seemed appropriate to me :p
  3. gamma500

    gamma500 Hardcore Simmer

    Silverstone, Barry Sheene, Kenny Roberts... Many fond memories of my mates and I screaming at the tv while Suzuki and Yamaha dueled in this event.
  4. 365gt

    365gt Hardcore Simmer

  5. gamma500

    gamma500 Hardcore Simmer


    TW - I hate it when you are right!;)
  6. gamma500

    gamma500 Hardcore Simmer


    Some combo's ask "when should I brake?" This combo begs the question "should I brake?"
    Also, Silverstone has apexes!
  7. 365gt

    365gt Hardcore Simmer

    @gamma500= 6 seconds lost between sessions,nice one:D
  8. gamma500

    gamma500 Hardcore Simmer

    I crept up to this time. Decided not to bother posting the mediocre gains.
  9. Peggy11

    Peggy11 Hardcore Simmer

    I think I may have already peaked on day 1 :eek:
  10. Biner

    Biner Hardcore Simmer

    Cheers, mates. I am on vacation (escaping a bit of winter in the Great White North) in case you missed me in the mid pack! Back to it in March.
  11. gamma500

    gamma500 Hardcore Simmer

    You will be missed. I'm stuck in the Great White North!
    Not an issue, I love it! Unlike you Westerners!:)
  12. DriverModFTW

    DriverModFTW Hardcore Simmer

    I'm terrible at setting up and driving these single seaters. Not looking forward to this one. I dont know how to properly download a tune and extract it in the proper file..cant figure it out so this is a trash lap with my own foolish tune.
  13. DriverModFTW

    DriverModFTW Hardcore Simmer

    Slight improvement
    Not particularly good at Silverstone. Never was. Will be a struggle all week lol
  14. Pretend racer

    Pretend racer Hardcore Simmer

    This is the tune I used in October to set my PB. I downloaded it from the setup market app and modified it a bit to suit me - generally I just adjust fuel levels, and correct the tire psi so its always green when I'm racing.
    If you have gotten the setup market app then you should be able to access these tunes while in the game.

    I recommend tuners like Labbe and Schmidt for road cars. Ryno's Raceroom, Roberto Olivetti, and 71698765976234 for race cars. They generally provide good quick tunes that are easy to fine tune.

    If you just want to "upload" my tune then open your Documents - Assetto Corsa - setups - Tatuusfa1 - silverstone.
    Then copy and paste my ini file into the folder I just mentioned. It should appear in game after that.

    Hope that helps.... I stopped attaching the actual setup file because noone seemed to need it, which is why I make sure to include my setup in the vids. But I can attach my setups like this if you prefer.

    Attached Files:

  15. Pretend racer

    Pretend racer Hardcore Simmer

    pretend racer

    So for this laptime I used Steve Smith's tune and modified the tire psi, fuel and brake pressure. When I used the tune I had posted earlier it didn't feel right - too much downforce, the tire psi's were out of whack and I was slow. I think the track conditions must have been quite a bit different than what we use.

    Then I tried the Smith's tune. It handles way better but the gearing is different (it would be interesting to see if the gearing in ryno's raceroom tune would improve Smith's tune - but I didn't try it). I made a few mistakes in this lap but I still managed to slightly best my previous PB so thats good enough for me.

    Attached Files:

  16. DriverModFTW

    DriverModFTW Hardcore Simmer

    Huge thank you to @Pretend racer for explaining everything. Made perfect sense and now I know where to look for setup tips. I took the setup from your last post and just tweaked a few small things for my inabilities haha. Now it's a matter of improving my line, braking and turn in points to find more time!
  17. Lewisxbone

    Lewisxbone Alien

    Lewisxbone -
    2:01.097 XB1


    Nice combo TW.
    I always struggle with silverstone.
    The 2 corners before the 1st long straight and then the bit before the 2nd long straight always seems to be a problem for me to get right.
    It’s one of those tracks were I think I’m doing ok and nailing all the corners but then I don’t seem to be able to improve by the end of the lap.
  18. Lewisxbone

    Lewisxbone Alien

    Improvement ish

    Lewisxbone -
    2:00.789 Xb1

    Last edited: Feb 3, 2020
  19. Neilski

    Neilski Alien

    I'm always very grateful for your setup files, and I suspect most of the PC crew also welcome them. The console gang will I'm sure be glad if you keep showing the setup in your videos ;)
  20. Lewisxbone

    Lewisxbone Alien

    I’ve noticed that consoles are missing a few settings with dampers and I think with the suspension.
    Also some of the figures are different on the bump, fast bump etc on console compared to pc.

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