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Generic Weekly Hotlap Challenge 168 – Low level flying

Discussion in 'Console Lounge' started by Totall Wrytoff, Feb 29, 2020.

  1. Welcome to the thread for the Weekly Hotlap Challenge 168 - Low level flying

    Two weeks ago we were driving Le Mans 24hr spec machinery from the ‘60s. This week we move forward nearly fifty years - can you spot the difference. No, that’s too easy. How about, try to spot any sort of similarity at all!

    Car: Porsche 919 Hybrid 2015
    Track: Black Cat County Long
    Neither this track, nor Hybrid LMPs are popular on the WHC.
    We have used Black Cat Long only once, in one hundred and sixty seven WHCs.
    Regarding the hybrid LM Prototypes It is fair to say that they are more complicated than a computer. (We are in Console Lounge.)
    To get the best out of the hybrids - to get fastest lap possible - requires that you understand, then optimise, your recovery and strategy for re-use of this stored energy as you try to drive as fast as possible around the circuit. It’s a challenge.
    So why are we doing this combi? It was proposed by one of the legends of WHC a few months ago, so well worth trying out. I did and here it is. I drove the first few laps with my chin on the floor! Wow! Recalibrate!

    The speed across the ground, enhanced by the cockpit view, is pure fighter jet territory. You feel calm and relaxed in the cabin as you enter a turn at 130mph, click the paddle and exit at over 170mph, with the engine murmuring away quietly behind you. Surreal.

    A quick refresh on what’s providing such astonishing motivational force. Firstly, a very modest 2 litre, V4 turbo, that Porsche manages to get 500bhp from, (along with decent fuel economy and and 24hr reliability!)

    Secondly the hybrid bit; there are two separate energy-recovery systems – one that recovers thermal energy from exhaust gases and one that converts the kinetic energy from braking into electrical energy for storage into lithium-ion battery packs. The official figure for the hybrid power output is 294bhp.

    So a total of 794bhp, with instant max torque and the car weighs 870kg.
    Tactics for the 919 at Black Cat County Long? Even using Low Preserve you won’t make it around the circuit. It runs out on the hill up towards the Stone Arch and you feel the loss of thrust. So, a better tactic might be to deploy it manually, but this takes more self-control than I have. In testing, I had used all of the juice before even getting half way. Somebody clever would probably use charging with manual for part of the track and perhaps a bit of Low Preserve for another.
    Whatever the case, there’s plenty to play with!

    The 919 comes in a choice of 3 liveries - The No. 17 car is red as a tribute to Porsche's first overall victory at Le Mans with the 917 in 1970.
    No. 18 is in black to “showcase the close technical similarities between the 919 Hybrid and the 918 Spyder.” (Well done marketing? Who got that?)
    No. 19 is white, the national colour of German race cars and also Porsche’s racing cars.

    Lap timewise, back in October @Pretend racer clocked a 3 mins 10.980 secs…

    Recommended pressure for all tyre compounds is 35psi.

    You have clearance from the tower!

    How to take part:
    To enter, select Hotlap, choose the Porsche 919 Hybrid 2015 and the Black Cat County Long Circuit.
    Please setup the session as shown below:
    Mode: Hotlap
    Ambient Temp: 26 Degrees
    Setup: Time of day: Free / Controller: Free / Assists: Free / Stability: Free
    To qualify you must have the ambient temp set to 26 DegC.
    Deadline: Sunday 8th March 2020 - by 18:00 GMT.

    Chequered Flag will drop shortly before 6pm.

    You can run as many laps as you like and update your times as often as you like. It is all about taking part, pushing yourself and enjoying Assetto Corsa. All Platforms are welcome. To submit a time, pause the game and select 'session' from the menu and screenshot this page or take a photo of your screen and post it in this thread - Note all the information from the screen is required including temperature, mode heading and of course the car being used!
    Please use the following format to post your times:
    Improvement (Only required if you have already posted a time)
    Your name (as you would like it to appear on the leaderboard)
    Your time - shown as x.xx.xxx.
    Your platform (PC Xb1 PS4)
    The screen shot showing your time.
    (Optional but in the spirit) Your thoughts or any comment
    Please post video clips and share information in here as well.

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  3. GoodGame.eXistenZ

    GoodGame.eXistenZ Hardcore Simmer

    Interesting combo, but for me Black Cat County and LMP - I am out:confused::oops:
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  4. Just try it! :)

    As I say, it is surprising fun.
    If you don't try it, you'll miss out on an experience!!;):D

    Go on, then say....
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  5. Totall Wrytoff
    Well, if @GoodGame.eXistenZ isn't going for world domination here, I am!
    First few laps and I'm just 2/10ths behind the RSR best, with a couple of errors, as you'll see in the vid.
    I used a mix of the engine modes... I could go a sec or two faster....

  6. Chaos_Chris

    Chaos_Chris Hardcore Simmer

    Holy moly that’s addictive.
    Gonna wait till someone posts some potential improvement settings before going for a time though. It’s ridiculous though. The speed ..
    Threw in a couple of 3.14’s hopefully this will improvement with more laps getting the circuit learnt. That first bit with the rocks , left right left no the other left !!


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  7. I used the following settings:
    Not sure the tyre pressures are completely optimised.
    Values are as the setting boxes (console) not actual

    Brake Bal 62 B. Power 99
    Fuel 10
    Aero 4 6
    Trans mph
    Final ratio 3.9000
    76 101 127 151 168 190 216
    Diff 50 25
    Tyres 23
    Cam -3.2 -1.9
    Toe 5 5
    Height 12 10
    Spring 2 2
    ARB 3 1

    B 6 5
    FB 7 4
    R 7 12
    FR 15 15
    Pac 120 115
    Trav 60 70
    FhD 14 10 10 10
    RhD 8 7 20 14
    TCS 10
    ABS 1
    M Del - as map
    M Rec 40%

    Engine mode strategy: :D

    Hope this helps!:)
  8. 365gt

    365gt Hardcore Simmer

    @Totall Wrytoff - Wow that's a great time along with some nice info;)
    How on earth did you keep her on the road.I feel like i've just come off a rollercoaster
    Last edited: Mar 1, 2020
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  9. Improvement
    Totall Wrytoff
    The World Lap Record is mine!!:D
    The first time I've ever been ahead of @Pretend racer :)

    A sub three mins is easily possible, for the faster drivers... On this lap I selected Neutral at 9&10 and had nothing underfoot on the exit. That's a second gone.:)

    Thanks 365, just steered and held my breath. Flat out from turn 2 to turn 5, with just a very slight lift for turn 4 (chicken) is exhilarating and takes building up to, as do turns 12-15.
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  10. moodyryder

    moodyryder Hardcore Simmer



    Left it in hotlap mode. Only used manual boost before the start line on lap 1. I've run out of juice at the bumpy bit round the back.

    Only changed MGU to hotlap & front wing to 5.

    So much time to gain up the hill if it's managed correctly.

    I'll leave that to the professionals. :)
    Last edited: Mar 1, 2020
  11. sissydriver

    sissydriver Alien

    again you invest a lot of work and time @Totall Wrytoff - thank you! :)

    but - this combo is nothing i want to try. o_O
    so another week acc, and then lets do WHC again;)
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  12. Improvement
    Totall Wrytoff
    The world record is mine again!!:D:D:D
    Only just and definitely temporarily.
  13. Neilski

    Neilski Hardcore Simmer

    LOL, I'm gonna try that ;)
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  14. Here is a bit more info on the ERS and engine modes, specific to the Porsche 919s, from Aristotelis:

    "The Low setting uses less battery at higher speeds/gears
    The High setting uses more battery at higher speeds/gears
    The Preserve from Aggressive setting, changes how torque is transferred to the front wheels, depending on their slip and thus using more or less battery and heating/wearing more or less the front tyres. Obviously the aggressive setting will give faster lap times but put the front tyres in more stress as well as consume more battery/energy per lap."


    "ERS deployment is most effective when coming onto quick sections as you accelerate faster and you increase your average speed which is where you gain lap-time"
    I suspect judicious, manual deployment is fastest. Needs vast reserves of self control though.:)
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  15. moodyryder

    moodyryder Hardcore Simmer



    Manual deployment & a zebra paint job.
  16. 365gt

    365gt Hardcore Simmer

    It looks like this will be my last challenge then as i'll be holding my brrreath for the whole lap.......CIAO my friends:eek::eek::confused::confused::confused:
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  17. 365gt

    365gt Hardcore Simmer

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  18. GoodGame.eXistenZ

    GoodGame.eXistenZ Hardcore Simmer

    Damn, looking at your videos makes my eyes spin. The grip of this thing is incredible :eek:
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  19. Improvement
    Totall Wrytoff
    The world record is mine again!
    Going for an over-nighter with it.
  20. moodyryder

    moodyryder Hardcore Simmer

    It'll be Friday before I try again. This round goes to you Sir.

    It's an unusual combination. I like Black Cat though and I've enjoyed this car with it. The bumps in the middle have my wheel shaking the desk like crazy.

    Fast corners in a downforce car and close to barriers. It's good.
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  21. Laughing Gravy

    Laughing Gravy Hardcore Simmer

    Laughing Gravy
    Despite TW's introductory sales pitch, "here's a car no one likes on a track everyone hates", this is quite good.
    Unfortunately it will take me a week just to figure out the car. [​IMG]

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