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Generic Weekly Hotlap Challenge 172 - Ode to No Combo for Old Man

Discussion in 'Console Lounge' started by Pretend racer, Mar 28, 2020.

  1. Pretend racer

    Pretend racer Hardcore Simmer

    Welcome to the thread for the Weekly Hotlap #172

    The Challenge.
    Car:Audi Sport quattro
    Track: Laguna Seca


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    As you all know we are trying to use every car available in AC and we are getting close to the end of the list. I wanted a car that was a little different from what we have been driving lately and I really like a sloppy road car so I chose the Audi. Even though she's a little long in the tooth she's capable of creating some giant sh1t eating grins! The ridiculous amount of suspension travel makes for a great off road rally car, but it requires a high degree of finesse to convince it into becoming a race car, which (for me) is much more satisfying than having a computer fix all the mistakes I'm making like what happens on any modern car with tc, and stability control, and whatever other computer controlled devices they have.




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    Well Laguna Seca is about as close to a rally course as we can get with the tracks that are available without getting into mods, so I had no choice but to pick it. It seems Hugo and I had very similar thoughts about the Audi rally cars and which tracks would suit it. This is what he said when he posted WHC 71 which perfectly sums up how I feel too.


    It had to be Laguna Seca,it really had.It allows using some oversteer/understeer on some corners,which is great for rally cars.How about throwing this on the corkscrew?Originally i wanted to do it on Zandvoort,but we used that one two weeks ago.Highlands was also an option but i truly belive that Laguna Seca is perfect for this type of vehicle.Sliding this car on corners will obviously make you loose some time but it's well worth the fun.Also,did i mention "throwing this on the corkscrew"? :) But,if we had the beautifull roads of Sintra,that's were the challenge would take place!
    Oh,and by the way,special kuddos for anyone who tries this on "dusty" conditions :D :D



    The ideal tire psi for the vintage tires is 45psi all around. If you like the street tires you should put 37 psi all around, and if you want to use semi slicks you should have 35psi all around.



    Up until I did a couple laps of testing, the RSR WR for this combo was set at 1.44.313. I happened to best it by a little bit but there's still lots of room for improvement.




    ☆☆☆☆PLEASE NOTE: WHC171 F1 IS STILL OPEN UNTIL 18:00 GMT, TOMORROW. ☆☆☆☆

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    How to take part:
    To enter, select Hotlap, choose the Audi Sport Quattro and the Laguna Seca Circuit
    Please setup the session as shown below:
    Mode: Hotlap
    Ambient Temp: 26 Degrees
    Setup: Time of day: Free / Controller: Free / Assists: Free / Stability: Free
    To qualify you must have the ambient temp set to 26 DegC.

    Deadline: Sunday 5th of April 2020
    Chequered Flag will drop shortly before 6pm.

    You can run as many laps as you like and update your times as often as you like. It is all about taking part, pushing yourself and enjoying Assetto Corsa. All Platforms are welcome. To submit a time, pause the game and select 'session' from the menu and screenshot this page or take a photo of your screen and post it in this thread - Note all the information from the screen is required including temperature, mode heading and of course the car being used!

    Please use the following format to post your times:
    Event name: Short Term
    or Long Term (just in case it's not obvious from the time shown!)
    Improvement (Required if you have already posted a time)
    Your name (as you would like it to appear on the leaderboard)
    Your time - shown as x.xx.xxx.
    Your platform (PC Xb1 PS4)
    The screen shot showing your time.
    (Optional but in the spirit) Your thoughts or any comment
    Please post video clips and share information in here as well.

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    2. Imola - Mercedes SLS GT3
    3. Brands Hatch GP - RUF RT12 Posted by GravelTrap 19th Oct 2016 (Console Lounge P54)
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    166. Highlands Long – Ferrari 330P4 and Ford GT40 (Posted by moodyryder)
    167. Zandvoort – Porsche Cayenne Turbo S (Totall Wrytoff)
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    Last edited: Mar 28, 2020


  2. Totall Wrytoff
    1.45.679
    PS4
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    Hey I'm in first place.
    Requesting a Neilski!:D
    Few laps to still not get the tyres right.
    Rainey Curve, the double left after the Corkscrew, is really tricky.
    The front axle, completely resistant to the idea of a new direction, stubbornly ploughs straight on. You wait. And wait!
    It's probably best to hug the inside kerb and get a good exit, rather than hero it, attempting a scando flick at 70mph.
     
  3. Neilski

    Neilski Hardcore Simmer

    Ummm, yes, yes I think the chances of that are pretty good ;)
     
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  4. Improvement
    Totall Wrytoff
    1.45.248
    PS4
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    Tyres sorted.
    Great choice Pretend racer!
    It's advanced planning. You really have to set the car up for a corner and you either get it perfect or it's rubbish!
     
  5. Pretend racer

    Pretend racer Hardcore Simmer

    I couldn't resist and had another go this afternoon. I'll attach my setup that I used so everyone can give it a try if they want to try and upset Totals Neilski attempt :p


    The original setup was downloaded from the setup market and I didn't adjust much other than fuel and psi. I think its a setup meant for the nurburgring and was posted by 7182413659 (or something like that).

    If I could tweak it for me, I'd probably try to dial out some more understeer but that's probably not possible. I should also tweak the camber settings a bit because my tire temps are a little out of whack. The reason I know this now is because I came across this little youtube series. Its really well done and I think you all might be interested in it. I'm sure I could do a few more things as well to get my laptime down a bit.




    https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWSWQyqnLDu7tLWE9P35Qog6Z8_xb7l_g


    I have embeded the first video of the series and then I posted a link that has all 12 videos in a playlist for you.
     

    Attached Files:

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  6. DriverModFTW

    DriverModFTW Hardcore Simmer

    DriverModFTW
    1.42.382
    PC
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    Took many laps to get used to this vehicle. Not sure I have my setup optimized either, but it was good enough for a decent time. Surprisingly good fun once I got a hold of it!
     
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  7. Laughing Gravy

    Laughing Gravy Hardcore Simmer

    Laughing Gravy
    1.51.022
    PS4[​IMG]

    Sent from my SM-G970U using Tapatalk
     
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  8. GoodGame.eXistenZ

    GoodGame.eXistenZ Hardcore Simmer

    Good old manual, I just love these old cars, they feel fantastic - great combo. Hopefully, if AC2 ever comes out we will see a lot more variation of cars - like a realistic Gran Turismo :)

    GoodGame.eXistenZ
    1:41:247
    PC

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  9. Pretend racer

    Pretend racer Hardcore Simmer

    pretend racer
    1.42.361
    pc
    [​IMG]



    Setup at the end of the vid.

    The terrible brakes takes some getting used to, and the crazy amount of nose dive when you hit the brakes is also kind of unsettling. But with very smooth inputs this car can be quick. Laguna Seca is not an easy course to set a good laptime on, there's just too many places where its really easy to mess it all up. I'll be doing a few more laps to tweak my setup and perfect my lines.
    Still having fun trying to figure this one out.
     
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  10. Peggy11

    Peggy11 Hardcore Simmer

    Peggy11
    1:46:688
    PC

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    This wasn't anywhere near as 'boaty' handling as I was anticipating..........which was nice.
    First few laps, hopefully a few more tenths to be found over the week. I have a lot of spare time now to find them :p
     
  11. William Nortje
    1:45:637
    PC

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    I first tried with stock setup and with the diff off its a handful. Still not easy but a lot more consistent - thanks for the setup pretend racer.
     
  12. Alexis_RS_MKII

    Alexis_RS_MKII Simracer

    Alexis_RS_MKII
    1.44.607
    PC

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  13. Neilski

    Neilski Hardcore Simmer

    Neilski
    1.42.645
    PC
    This one is growing on me. Such a ponderous engine - flooring it in neutral, it seems to take forever to spool up - but a lovely sound :D
    I think I might squeeze another half a second out of it if the lap goes just right but a 41 is likely to be beyond me...
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  14. 365gt

    365gt Hardcore Simmer

    365gt
    1.46.688
    PS4

    I wasn't going to post this time but then I thought well why not because at the end of this challenge everyone will see how many seconds i've lost or possibly gained:D:DGood or bad idea?I guess we'll see.
    Only adjusted fuel and TC off .I did not expect her to be this smooth which is always nice


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  15. LeiF

    LeiF Alien

    Am I the only one still at work!? Lol!
    I’ll be back once I have learnt slovakiaring to have a go at this one :)
     
  16. Pretend racer

    Pretend racer Hardcore Simmer

    (Mid)Weekly Hotlap Challenge standings!

    1. GoodGame.eXistenZ 1:41:247 PC
    2. pretend racer 1.42.361 pc
    3. DriverModFTW 1.42.382 PC
    4. Neilski 1.42.645 PC
    5. Alexis_RS_MKII 1.44.607 PC
    6. Totall Wrytoff 1.45.248 PS4
    7. William Nortje 1:45:637 PC
    8. Peggy11 1:46:688 PC
    8. 365gt 1.46.688 PS4
    10. Laughing Gravy 1.51.022 PS4


    Wow! We got all the weekend warriors out and there's no signs of arthritis or male pattern balding, or reading glasses anywhere on track because all these Old Men have no fear of this combo! There is already quite a few battles setup on the leader board with multiple positions being decided by less than a tenth!!

    I hope everyone has some time to watch the setup videos as they have helped me a lot. I'm hoping that we may get a few more people posting setups in the WHC's because the more setups that are available, I'm hoping that will help everyone get a little faster a little quicker.

    We have had a few new entries so I'd like to thank them for contributing. I hope we have been welcoming and that you will not only continue to contribute so please bug all your friends to come have a go, the more the merrier!
     
  17. The set-up videos by Chris Haye are excellent. No more random fiddling for me, I now have a process!
    Now, to find the patience and consistency to test each change, one at a time....

    Thanks v. much @Pretend racer , they should be compulsory viewing!:D
     
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  18. Pretend racer

    Pretend racer Hardcore Simmer

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    This is the crib sheet that Haye's provided. Its a quick and dirty bunch of directions on how to tackle the handling issues your having. Hopefully it will save a bunch of time because you won't have to do as many trial and error laps to figure things out.
     

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  19. Peggy11

    Peggy11 Hardcore Simmer

    Improvement
    Peggy11
    1:45:311
    PC

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    Chipped away a little more, hoping for a late 1:44 before the week is out :D
     
  20. GoodGame.eXistenZ

    GoodGame.eXistenZ Hardcore Simmer

    Since you guys are talking about setup, I set diff front and back to 1. Camber -2 all around and adjusted PSI. That's it.
     

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