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Generic Weekly Hotlap Challenge 179 – Praga Seca

Discussion in 'Console Lounge' started by Totall Wrytoff, May 16, 2020.

  1. Welcome to the thread for the Weekly Hotlap Challenge 179 – Praga Seca.

    Sounds like an exciting cocktail that could send you into a spin?
    You could be right.

    Car: Praga R1
    Track: Laguna Seca
    The Praga R1 is a sportscar produced by Czech car manufacturer Praga Racing for the “Supercar Challenge Superlights PR1” Category in 2013. This series featured the Praga, Radicals SR3 and SR8, the Caterham SP300 and other Group CN cars. These were built by race chassis companies, interestingly for us, like Tatuus, who supplied the Tatuus PY012, with an open cockpit and tiny wheels. Have a look at it!
    The epically named Danny van Dongen was the official Praga test driver. He drove the R1 for the first time on October 10, 2012 and production began in March 2013. Seems like a bit of a gap, a few issues perhaps?

    The first Superlight race was at the Slovakia Ring and controversial. Praga Racing announced that they would enter ten R1's. Hilariously, due to a strike by Spanish customs, most of the wheels didn’t arrive, so just three Pragas started. The wonderfully denominated D. v. Dongen wasn’t left in the pits it seems. In the factory team’s first outing, the superbly titled Danny van Dongen was fastest in free practice, and took their first pole. In the end he only finished fourth and that magnificent appellation didn’t make it into the lights. Stefan Rosina, in another factory Praga won the race.

    I have to say, I’d not heard of Praga before AC, but I’ve always fancied a Radical. These cars look as though they would monster anything on a track day. And they would. Utterly slack free, the lack of weight means ripping straight line pace and there’s downforce boosted grip to sling you round corners. These attributes also mean the car clearly exposes every inaccurate input.
    Having got excited, although it does have a super light Carbon fibre monocoque and a very racey Hewland JFR six-speed sequential semi-automatic transaxle gearbox, on board they don’t feel as fast as they look. The reason is down to the very modest two litre, inline four pot made by Renault and found in almost every French car from 1983 to 2001. Today you can still find it in a Dacia! It is blown, AC quotes 210 bhp, WikiP says around 335-390PS. It’s only pushing 600Kgs, but there’s not the grunt you expect.
    With that though, comes the need to more carefully nurture your momentum through the corners. Here the downforce allows you to go faster than you expect at first and it takes some getting used to.

    Up until a couple of weeks ago the RSR best was 1.24.165s, but once again (in fact, in every way) GG.e seems to be ahead of me, and has since gone a full 6/10ths faster and posted a 1:23.514, albeit probably at a near frosty temperature. A sub 1:26 gets you into the top 30 and would be very respectable.

    Tyres are Dunlops, 200/580 R15s on the front and 265/605 R16s across the rear, with an ideal operating pressure of 28psi at both ends.

    Get out there and give it some Dongen!

    ☆☆PLEASE NOTE: the excellent WHC178 IS STILL OPEN UNTIL 18:00 (GMT+1) TOMORROW. ☆☆

    How to take part:
    To enter, select Hotlap, choose the Praga R1 and the Laguna Seca Circuit.
    Please setup the session as shown below:
    Mode: Hotlap
    Ambient Temp: 26 Degrees
    Setup: Time of day: Free / Controller: Free / Assists: Free / Stability: Free
    To qualify you must have the ambient temp set to 26 DegC.

    Deadline: Sunday 22nd March 2020
    Chequered Flag will drop shortly before 6pm.

    You can run as many laps as you like and update your times as often as you like. It is all about taking part, pushing yourself and enjoying Assetto Corsa. All Platforms are welcome. To submit a time, pause the game and select 'session' from the menu and screenshot this page or take a photo of your screen and post it in this thread - Note all the information from the screen is required including temperature, mode heading and of course the car being used!
    Please use the following format to post your times:
    (Only required if you have already posted a time)
    Your name (as you would like it to appear on the leaderboard)
    Your time - shown as x.xx.xxx.
    Your platform (PC Xb1 PS4)
    The screen shot showing your time.
    (Optional but in the spirit) Your thoughts or any comment
    Please post video clips and share information in here as well.

    Weekly Hotlap Challenge History
    1. Mugello - Praga R1 Posted by John Gordon 3rd Oct, 2016 (Console Lounge P55)
    2. Imola - Mercedes SLS GT3
    3. Brands Hatch GP - RUF RT12 Posted by GravelTrap 19th Oct 2016 (Console Lounge P54)
    4. Magione - Lotus 2 Eleven
    5. Silverstone International - Abarth 500 Assetto Corse
    6. Zandvoort - Pagani Huayra
    7. Nurburgring GP (GT) - Alfa Romeo 155 V6 TI
    8. Spa - BMW M3 GT2
    9. Vallelunga Club - KTM X-Bow R
    10. Barcelona - Moto - Shelby Cobra 427 S/C
    11. Silverstone 1967 - Lotus 72D
    12. Nordschleife - Porsche 911 Carrera S
    13. Black Cat County - Ferrari LaFerrari
    14. Monza Junior 1966 - Alfa Romeo GTA
    15. Redbull Ring GP - Lamborghini Gallardo Sl
    16. Zandvoort - Ford Escort RS1600
    17. Imola - Mazda Rx-7 Spirit R
    18. Brands Hatch GP - Lotus Exige V6 Cup
    19. Monza - Ferrari FXX K
    20. Barcelona - Moto - Ferrari 488 GT3
    21. Mugello - Alfa Romeo Giulietta QV
    22. Silverstone GP - Porsche 911 GT3 Cup 2017
    23. Nurburgring Sprint GT - Toyota AE86 Tuned
    24. Magione - Maserati Levante S
    25. Spa - Lotus 98T
    26. Vallelunga - Classic - Porsche 935/78 "Moby Dick"
    27. Nordschleife Endurance Cup - M235i Racing
    28. Silverstone 1967 - Maserati 250F T2 12C
    29. Red Bull Ring National - BMW 1M (Posted by HavanaB0B, 1st May 2017
    30. Zandvoort - Lotus Evora GX
    31. Barcelona GP - Lotus Exos 125 Stage 1
    32. Brands Hatch Indy - Toyota Supra MKIV Time Attack Posted by by Graveltrap 21st May 2017
    33. Black Cat County Long - Lamborghini Countach
    34. Imola - Mercedes Benz 190E Evo II
    35. Monza - Chevrolet Corvette C7R
    36. Nurburgring Sprint GT - BMW M3 E30
    37. Magione - Mercedes SLS AMG
    38. Spa - Porsche 917/30 Spyder
    39. Silverstone GP - Nissan GT-R Nismo Posted by Hugo Catarino,9th July 2017
    40. RedBull Ring GP - Alfa Romeo 4c
    41. Brands Hatch GP - Audi R8 LMS Ultra
    42. Highlands Long - Ford GT40
    43. Vallelunga - Lotus GTE Carbon
    44. Zandvoort - Porsche 911 Turbo S Posted by Graveltrap 13th Aug 2017
    45. Nordschleife - Ferrari 312T
    46. Mugello - BMW M3 E92
    47. Black Cat County - Short - Ford Mustang 2015
    48. Imola - Maserati MC12 GT1
    49. Silverstone 1967 - Porsche 911 Carrera RSR 3.0
    50. Barcelona Moto - McLaren 570S
    51. Magione - Mazda Miata NA
    52. Spa - Ferrari F40
    53. Vallelunga - Corvette C7 Stingray Posted by Moodyryder 23rd Oct 2017 (Console Lounge p14)
    54. Brands Hatch GP - Tatuus FA01
    55. Highlands - Lotus 3 eleven
    56. Nurburgring GP (GT) - Toyota Celica ST185 4WD Turbo
    57. Monza 1966 Full Course - Ferrari 312/67
    58. Nordschleife - Porsche 962 C Short Tail
    59. Zandvoort- Nissan 370Z Nismo
    60. Silverstone GP - McLaren F1
    61. Vallelunga Classic - Ferrari 250GTO
    62. Imola - Lotus 98T
    63. Highlands Drift - P4/5 Competizione
    64. Mugello - Lamborghini Aventador SV
    65. Spa - Porsche 911R
    66. Black Cat County - Lotus 2-Eleven GT4
    67. Barcelona GP - Ferrari SF70H
    68. Nordschleife Endurance & Highlands - Porsche 917k
    69. Zandvoort - Lotus Exige Scura Posted by Hugo Catarino 25th Feb 2o18 (Console Lounge p7)
    70. RedBull Ring National - Maserati Alfieri
    71. Laguna Seca - Audi Sport quattro S1 E2
    72. Brands Hatch - McLaren P1
    73. Imola - Porsche 911 RSR
    74. Nurburgring GP - Ferrari F2004
    75. Barcelona Moto - Lamborghini Huracan Performante
    76. Silverstone 1967 - Alfa Romeo 33 Stradale
    77. Magione - BMW 1M Stage 3
    78. Highlands Long - Mazda 787b
    79. Black Cat County - Toyota GT86
    80. Spa - Toyota TS040 Hybrid
    81. Vallelunga Classic - Nissan Skyline R34 V-Spec
    82. Mugello - Ferrari 458 GT2
    83. Silverstone International - RUF R12 R AWD
    84. Highlands Long - Audi R18 e-tron quattro 2014
    85. Monza - Pagani Zonda R
    86. Nordschleife - Lotus 3-eleven
    87. Zandvoort - Maserati GranTurismo MC GT4
    88. Redbull Ring GP - Mercedes Sauber C9
    89. Brands Hatch - Lotus Type 25
    90. Highlands Short - Abarth 595 SS
    91. Nurburgring GP (GT) - Audi TT Cup
    92. Monza 1966 - Road Course - Porsche 908 LH
    93. Vallelunga - BMW M3 E30 Gr.A 92
    94. Laguna Seca - Alfa Romeo Mito QV
    95. Nordschleife - RUF Yellowbird & Ferrari F40
    96. Barcelona GP - BMW Z4 GT3
    97. Highlands Drift - Ferrari 458 Italia
    98. Spa - Lotus Type 49
    99. Zandvoort - Porsche 911 GT1-98
    100. Silverstone - Nissan GT-R GT3;
    100. Brands Hatch - Lotus Exige V6; Vallelunga - free car
    101. Mugello - Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio
    102. Silverstone National - Mazda MX5 Cup or Abarth 500 Assetto Corse
    103. Highlands Short – Ford Escort RS1600 Posted by Totall Wrytoff 11th Nov 2018 (Console Lounge p2)
    104. Black Cat Short – Porsche 917/30
    105. Monza 66 Junior Course – Ferrari F40 S3
    106. Magione – Toyota Supra MkIV
    107. Brands Hatch Indy 5 lap - Porsche 911 GT3 RS
    107. Nurburgring Sprint - Porsche 911 GT3 RS
    108. Nordschleife - Abarth 595SS
    108 Laguna Seca 5 lap - McLaren F1 GTR
    109. Brands Hatch - Ferrari FXX K
    110. Highlands – Lamborghini Miura P400 SV
    111. Imola - Scuderia Glickenhaus SCG 003C
    112. Vallelunga Club – Lotus Exos T125
    113. Highlands Drift - Porsche Cayman GT4 Clubsport
    114. Barcelona Moto - Maserati 250F 6 cylinder
    115. Silverstone GP – Ferrari F138
    116. Laguna Seca – Lotus 72D
    117. Red Bull Ring GP - Ferrari SF15-T
    118. Spa Francorchamps – Maserati Quattroporte GTS
    119. Zandvoort – Toyota AE86
    120. Silverstone National – BMW M3 E92 Step 1
    121. Silverstone 1967 – Ford GT40
    122. Nurburgring GP - Porsche 919 Hybrid 2016
    123. Highlands Drift Circuit – Porsche 718 RS 60 Spyder
    124. Nordschleife Endurance – Porsche 962C Long Tail
    125. Red Bull Ring National - Audi R8 V10 Plus
    126. Imola – Ferrari 330 P4
    127. Monza 1966 Road Course - Pagani Huayra BC
    128. Mugello – Ferrari GTO
    129. Vallelunga – Lamborghini Sesto Elemento
    130. Black Cat County – Shelby Cobra 427S/C
    131. Laguna Seca – Lotus Evora GTC
    132. Brands Hatch GP – McLaren MP4 12C
    133. Highlands Long – Chevrolet Corvette C7R
    134. Monza GP – Lamborghini Gallardo SL S3/ Countach S1
    135. Magione – Mazda MX-5 ND
    136. Nordschleife Endurance Cup – Ferrari F2004
    137. Barcelona Moto – Lotus Exige S Roadster
    138. Monza 1966 Full Course – Porsche 918 Spyder
    139. Spa Francorchamps – Ferrari 812 Superfast
    140. Zandvoort – Mercedes Benz AMG GT3
    141. Silverstone GP – Porsche Cayman GT4
    142. Vallelunga Classic – Tatuus FA10
    143. Brands Hatch GP - Audi Quattro Sport Step 1
    144. Red Bull Ring GP - Ferrari 488 GTB
    145. Nurburgring GP (GT ) – BMW M3 E30 Group A
    146. Imola – Ferrari 458 Italia Step 3
    147. Laguna Seca – KTM X-Bow R
    148. Mugello – Ford GT40
    149. Vallelunga Club – Maserati Levante S (Posted by Graveltrap!)
    150. Nordschleife - Lotus 98T (October 2019 - Posted by Totall Wrytoff)
    150. Nordschleife - Nissan Nismo GT-R
    150. Highlands - Mercedes-Benz C9 1989 LM
    150. Brands Hatch Indy - McLaren P1 GTR (Race event)
    151. Barcelona Moto – Lamborghini Huracan ST
    152. Spa Francorchamps – Shelby Cobra 427 S/C
    153. Brands Hatch GP – Porsche 911 Carrera RSR 3.0
    153. Silverstone ’67 – Mercedes SLS AMG (Race event)
    154. Monza GP - Audi R8 LMS 2016
    155. Nurburgring Sprint - Porsche Panamera Turbo (First thread by F1415182235)
    156. Silverstone International - Mazda RX-7 Tuned
    157. Highlands Short - Ferrari 599XX EVO
    158. Barcelona GP - Porsche 962C Short Tail
    159. Monza 1966 Road Course – McLaren 570S (Posted by Totall Wrytoff)
    159. Imola – BMW M4 Akrapovic
    159. Black Cat County Short – Lotus Type 49
    160. Mugello – BMW M3 E30 Step 1
    161. Spa Francochamps – McLaren 650s GT3
    162. Magione - Ruf CTR Yellowbird
    163. Highlands Drift – Lotus Elise SC Step 1
    164. Silverstone GP - Tatuus FA01
    165. Nurburgring Sprint - Guilietta QVLE (First thread by Pretend racer)
    166. Highlands Long – Ferrari 330P4 and Ford GT40 (Posted by moodyryder)
    167. Zandvoort – Porsche Cayenne Turbo S (Totall Wrytoff)
    168. Black Cat County Long - Porsche 919 Hybrid 2015
    169. Vallelunga Club – Porsche 718 Boxster S (Pr)
    170. Imola – Ferrari F2004 (TW)
    171. Brands Hatch Indy - Abarth 595 SS Step 2 (TW)
    171. Nordschleife Endurance - BMW Z4 E89
    172. Laguna Seca – Audi Sport Quattro (Pr)
    173. Red Bull Ring GP - Toyota Supra MKIV (Mdyrdr)
    174. Brands Hatch GP - Audi TT RS VLN (TW)
    174. Mugello - Mazda 787B
    175. Highlands Short - Maserati 250F 6 cylinder (DM)
    175. Black Cat County - Maserati 250F 12 cylinder
    176. Nurburgring GP - Lamborghini Huracan GT3 (Pr)
    177. Spa Francochamps – Porsche 911 GT3 RS (Mdyrdr)
    178. Silverstone GP – Lotus Type 25 or Elise SC (TW)
    179. Laguna Seca – Praga R1

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  3. This is a strange one.

    I've just done a test using this week's WHC and two different profiles on PS4.

    I logged in using one of my new profiles (created because AC had stopped saving my set-ups) and did 7 laps with stock settings
    Result - 1:27.478 - car felt good to drive, trans a bit long perhaps

    I then logged in as Totall Wrytoff, with exact same settings (and a few laps the wiser)
    Result - 1:28.428 - car felt heavy and nasty, spun several times, car was truculent and very slow to respond, tough to go faster

    1. I'm a second faster with less effort, using a different profile.
    2. Different profiles yield different times in AC.
    3. I have considered setting up a profile called Goodgame!!

    But seriously, all thoughts welcome....
    Pretend racer, Peggy11 and P308R like this.
  4. GoodGame.eXistenZ

    GoodGame.eXistenZ Hardcore Simmer

    Tell me about your results :p
    Sounds strange though. Sure you were running same setup??

    So gave it "another" go.
    Noticed my recent time was with ABS on, so had another go and improved a bit. This car is sensible on braking, so taking it slowly and try to brake later step by step. Here is the video, time is 1:23:519 and without ABS:
  5. @GoodGame.eXistenZ

    The set-up was completely stock for both cars, although they felt quite different.

    The weather, time and track temp were exactly the same. I can be meticulously scientific when I want to be.:)

    My faster times were set first. I then logged out and in, went straight to hotlap, and I couldn't get anywhere close to them using my normal profile.
  6. GoodGame.eXistenZ

    GoodGame.eXistenZ Hardcore Simmer

    Strange, but I really cannot imagine that same settings and conditions would result in different times only when profile is changed. I would suspect variance here. You could compare top speed differences and sector times to rule out any other chances.
    Pretend racer, Peggy11 and P308R like this.
  7. Totall Wrytoff
    Look at this!
    1st lap to "try out this name" and it's the fastest I've ever done!:D
    Still on stock settings which feel quite good except for the transmission, which seems a bit tall for the track, but eggs you on.
  8. moodyryder

    moodyryder Hardcore Simmer

    I've had that. Sometimes I've used my 2stroke pony profile and the car felt different to mooyryder's.

    I realised I had different degrees of rotation in the video menu. It made a difference.
  9. moodyryder

    moodyryder Hardcore Simmer

    All in the mind fella. All in the mind. :)
  10. P308R

    P308R Hardcore Simmer

    Bastian Boillot

    To early on the gas, brake to late, to eager, so much sand but finally ....
  11. It is!:D
    Wheel rotation is 1080 for both.

    I've found the answer - It is track grip.
    (And too much lockdown.)

    With my TW profile, with track grip set to optimum, it reads anything between 96-98% track grip.
    Switch profile, all settings the same, it reads 100%. That's the reason.

    But why is that?
    And it is affecting my mind!:rolleyes:
  12. P308R

    P308R Hardcore Simmer

    Does it help if you choose 'green', go on track, do a lap, quit, the redo but choose optimum?
  13. GoodGame.eXistenZ

    GoodGame.eXistenZ Hardcore Simmer

    Alway optimum, do 1 or 2 laps in a row. Restart session.

    @Totall Wrytoff Knew it :D
  14. LeiF

    LeiF Alien


    OK so I have raced this car before, but on fixed setup. Had a quick go at default, terribly non-compliant and gears too tall. Beat my PB from back then almost instantly but it was clear that without setup changes it wasn't going to take me much further.

    Made a couple of changes and then couldn't make it into T1 without losing the back end; OK back to default, further random clicking and a few more restarts later managed to get precisely +2.000 from the target. RSR says 7 laps total but probably double that if you count the mistake + restarts lol!
    Plus at one point I could have sworn my FFB went weird, seemed OK after exit and rejoin. I'm blaming you guys; placebo is a hell of a drug :D

    May have another go if I find time but racing 1h Thursday and then in 6H race Saturday and way more practice needed for both!

  15. F1415182235

    F1415182235 Hardcore Simmer

    @Totall Wrytoff Wheel settings in the options menu might be different. Could be in your mind. Did you use the same car color?
  16. P308R

    P308R Hardcore Simmer

    Bastian Boillot

  17. Peggy11

    Peggy11 Hardcore Simmer



    Much easier car than the old Lotus of last week! I'm still of course comparatively slow, but hopefully there's a little more to come over the course of the week. I may try a new Steam ID to shave a second off if all else fails :D
  18. Hey, hey! Good selection of humorous response!:D

    Well, something was odd and I'm a different person now.
    Seems to be working well.

    Thanks for the generous support everyone.:)

    PS - No more experimenting.
  19. Pretend racer

    Pretend racer Hardcore Simmer

    pretend racer

    Setup at the end of the vid.

    I used bassini's tune from the setup market. I took a couple clicks of wing out of it, increased the braking pressure to 100, and adjusted psi which is optimized for lap 2. I probably also adjusted fuel. I didn't try it without the tc, maybe next time.
  20. WHC179 Praga Seca - Tuesday Timings

    1. GoodGame.eXistenZ - 1:23:947 PC
    2. Pretend racer - 1.24.835 PC
    3. Bastian Boillot (P308R) - 1:25:339 PS4
    4. LeiF - 1.25.519 PC
    5. Peggy11 - 1:26:980 PC
    6. Totall Wrytoff - 1.27.455 PS4

    It’s @GoodGame.eXistenZ in his own time zone again. He's 1st here and 1st in the world!
    @Pretend racer is actually less than a second behind, which puts him 8th in the world and shows that this is a very competitive combi. Thanks for posting a set-up!*
    @P308R , aka Bastian, was having a bit too much of everything, improves to post a 1.25.3 taking provisional third place just ahead of @LeiF. Leify has a secret set-up which gained him two secs, I'd like to make him an offer!
    @Peggy11 gets into the 26s, which, as stipulated in the intro, is this week's target. Good job, adopting another personality should gain you an easy 1.25.9, based on my experience.

    * I set my time using GoodGame's name and the default set up, just lowered fuel. I've tried to improve the set-up, but each adjustment results in a slower lap. I would think lowering ride height, softer rear ARB and maybe softer front springs would help, so I'm keen to try this. To go with my another personality.

    Times this week are looking very racey, good driving, well done everyone.

  21. P308R

    P308R Hardcore Simmer

    So how do you guys cope with hitting your limit and overdriving the car?

    I pretty much hit mine and due to my eager I get sloppy. I run more off track and make more errors, pirouettes, tasting sand and pushing just too much.

    I went over the basics again and again but the only way (imho) is to push a bit less and practice more. I think that in the end it is the only cure :p

    I've watched @GoodGame.eXistenZ over and over and I simply can't see myself closing such a gap :eek: It is really impressive :cool:

    I've seen a couple mentioning a leaderboard. PS4 doesn't have one, or does it?

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