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Generic Weekly Hotlap Challenge 180 - Coke or Pepsi Challenge

Discussion in 'Console Lounge' started by Pretend racer, May 23, 2020.

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Pepsi/Audi/Fwd or Coke/Bmw/Rwd. Which car do you prefer? Which car will you be fastest in?

Poll closed May 30, 2020.
  1. I prefer Audi and I will be fastest in the Audi

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  2. I prefer Bmw and I will be fastest in the Bmw

    57.1%
  3. I prefer Audi but I will be fastest in the Bmw

    14.3%
  4. I prefer Bmw but I will be fastest in the Audi

    28.6%
  1. Pretend racer

    Pretend racer Hardcore Simmer

    Welcome to the thread for the Weekly Hotlap Challenge 180.

    Sounds like an exciting cocktail that could send you into a spin?
    You could be right.

    Challenge
    Hotlap:
    Car: Audi S1 and/or BMW M3 e30 Step 1
    Track: Monza 1966 Junior Circuit

    Desktop Screenshot 2020.05.22 - 21.33.54.83.png Desktop Screenshot 2020.05.22 - 21.34.37.10.png

    Blue flavoured Pepsi, or red and white Coke? Audi FWD vs BMW RWD. I know that each brand has a vocal and loyal following but I think we might be able to surprise some people this week. Both of these cars are capable of quenching your thirst for speed in exactly the same amount of time on this short and sweet track.
    Who's up for a little blind taste test? Don't worry, I expect you to go on track with your eyes wide open, but there is a blind corner...

    Setup options are fairly minimal on these cars so we should be able to concentrate turning smooth and consistent laps.

    Its gonna be interesting to see how many people will be able to accurately predict which car/drink they think they like best or will be fastest in, vs what the laptimes say is the best. I like coke and I like rwd, but will the laptimes prove that to be the case?

    Please vote in the poll before you post your laptimes so we can compare and contrast the results. You won't be able to change your vote so make sure you vote correctly!


    RSR WR Audi S1 59.7
    RSR WR BMW M3 59.9

    Ideal Tire pressures:
    Audi S1 Semislicks 34 psi
    BMW M3 E30 Semislicks 31 psi



    ☆☆PLEASE NOTE: the excellent WHC179 IS STILL OPEN UNTIL 18:00 (GMT+1) TOMORROW. ☆☆

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    How to take part:
    To enter, select Hotlap, choose the Audi S1 and/or BMW M3 e30 Step 1 and the Monza 1966 Junior Circuit.
    Please setup the session as shown below:
    Mode: Hotlap
    Ambient Temp: 26 Degrees
    Setup: Time of day: Free / Controller: Free / Assists: Free / Stability: Free
    To qualify you must have the ambient temp set to 26 DegC.

    Deadline: Sunday 31st May 2020
    Chequered Flag will drop shortly before 6pm.

    You can run as many laps as you like and update your times as often as you like. It is all about taking part, pushing yourself and enjoying Assetto Corsa. All Platforms are welcome. To submit a time, pause the game and select 'session' from the menu and screenshot this page or take a photo of your screen and post it in this thread - Note all the information from the screen is required including temperature, mode heading and of course the car being used!
    Please use the following format to post your times:
    Improvement
    (Only required if you have already posted a time)
    Your name (as you would like it to appear on the leaderboard)
    Your time - shown as x.xx.xxx.
    Your platform (PC Xb1 PS4)
    The screen shot showing your time.
    (Optional but in the spirit) Your thoughts or any comment
    Please post video clips and share information in here as well.


    Weekly Hotlap Challenge History
    1. Mugello - Praga R1 Posted by John Gordon 3rd Oct, 2016 (Console Lounge P55)
    2. Imola - Mercedes SLS GT3
    3. Brands Hatch GP - RUF RT12 Posted by GravelTrap 19th Oct 2016 (Console Lounge P54)
    4. Magione - Lotus 2 Eleven
    5. Silverstone International - Abarth 500 Assetto Corse
    6. Zandvoort - Pagani Huayra
    7. Nurburgring GP (GT) - Alfa Romeo 155 V6 TI
    8. Spa - BMW M3 GT2
    9. Vallelunga Club - KTM X-Bow R
    10. Barcelona - Moto - Shelby Cobra 427 S/C
    11. Silverstone 1967 - Lotus 72D
    12. Nordschleife - Porsche 911 Carrera S
    13. Black Cat County - Ferrari LaFerrari
    14. Monza Junior 1966 - Alfa Romeo GTA
    15. Redbull Ring GP - Lamborghini Gallardo Sl
    16. Zandvoort - Ford Escort RS1600
    17. Imola - Mazda Rx-7 Spirit R
    18. Brands Hatch GP - Lotus Exige V6 Cup
    19. Monza - Ferrari FXX K
    20. Barcelona - Moto - Ferrari 488 GT3
    21. Mugello - Alfa Romeo Giulietta QV
    22. Silverstone GP - Porsche 911 GT3 Cup 2017
    23. Nurburgring Sprint GT - Toyota AE86 Tuned
    24. Magione - Maserati Levante S
    25. Spa - Lotus 98T
    26. Vallelunga - Classic - Porsche 935/78 "Moby Dick"
    27. Nordschleife Endurance Cup - M235i Racing
    28. Silverstone 1967 - Maserati 250F T2 12C
    29. Red Bull Ring National - BMW 1M (Posted by HavanaB0B, 1st May 2017
    30. Zandvoort - Lotus Evora GX
    31. Barcelona GP - Lotus Exos 125 Stage 1
    32. Brands Hatch Indy - Toyota Supra MKIV Time Attack Posted by by Graveltrap 21st May 2017
    33. Black Cat County Long - Lamborghini Countach
    34. Imola - Mercedes Benz 190E Evo II
    35. Monza - Chevrolet Corvette C7R
    36. Nurburgring Sprint GT - BMW M3 E30
    37. Magione - Mercedes SLS AMG
    38. Spa - Porsche 917/30 Spyder
    39. Silverstone GP - Nissan GT-R Nismo Posted by Hugo Catarino,9th July 2017
    40. RedBull Ring GP - Alfa Romeo 4c
    41. Brands Hatch GP - Audi R8 LMS Ultra
    42. Highlands Long - Ford GT40
    43. Vallelunga - Lotus GTE Carbon
    44. Zandvoort - Porsche 911 Turbo S Posted by Graveltrap 13th Aug 2017
    45. Nordschleife - Ferrari 312T
    46. Mugello - BMW M3 E92
    47. Black Cat County - Short - Ford Mustang 2015
    48. Imola - Maserati MC12 GT1
    49. Silverstone 1967 - Porsche 911 Carrera RSR 3.0
    50. Barcelona Moto - McLaren 570S
    51. Magione - Mazda Miata NA
    52. Spa - Ferrari F40
    53. Vallelunga - Corvette C7 Stingray Posted by Moodyryder 23rd Oct 2017 (Console Lounge p14)
    54. Brands Hatch GP - Tatuus FA01
    55. Highlands - Lotus 3 eleven
    56. Nurburgring GP (GT) - Toyota Celica ST185 4WD Turbo
    57. Monza 1966 Full Course - Ferrari 312/67
    58. Nordschleife - Porsche 962 C Short Tail
    59. Zandvoort- Nissan 370Z Nismo
    60. Silverstone GP - McLaren F1
    61. Vallelunga Classic - Ferrari 250GTO
    62. Imola - Lotus 98T
    63. Highlands Drift - P4/5 Competizione
    64. Mugello - Lamborghini Aventador SV
    65. Spa - Porsche 911R
    66. Black Cat County - Lotus 2-Eleven GT4
    67. Barcelona GP - Ferrari SF70H
    68. Nordschleife Endurance & Highlands - Porsche 917k
    69. Zandvoort - Lotus Exige Scura Posted by Hugo Catarino 25th Feb 2o18 (Console Lounge p7)
    70. RedBull Ring National - Maserati Alfieri
    71. Laguna Seca - Audi Sport quattro S1 E2
    72. Brands Hatch - McLaren P1
    73. Imola - Porsche 911 RSR
    74. Nurburgring GP - Ferrari F2004
    75. Barcelona Moto - Lamborghini Huracan Performante
    76. Silverstone 1967 - Alfa Romeo 33 Stradale
    77. Magione - BMW 1M Stage 3
    78. Highlands Long - Mazda 787b
    79. Black Cat County - Toyota GT86
    80. Spa - Toyota TS040 Hybrid
    81. Vallelunga Classic - Nissan Skyline R34 V-Spec
    82. Mugello - Ferrari 458 GT2
    83. Silverstone International - RUF R12 R AWD
    84. Highlands Long - Audi R18 e-tron quattro 2014
    85. Monza - Pagani Zonda R
    86. Nordschleife - Lotus 3-eleven
    87. Zandvoort - Maserati GranTurismo MC GT4
    88. Redbull Ring GP - Mercedes Sauber C9
    89. Brands Hatch - Lotus Type 25
    90. Highlands Short - Abarth 595 SS
    91. Nurburgring GP (GT) - Audi TT Cup
    92. Monza 1966 - Road Course - Porsche 908 LH
    93. Vallelunga - BMW M3 E30 Gr.A 92
    94. Laguna Seca - Alfa Romeo Mito QV
    95. Nordschleife - RUF Yellowbird & Ferrari F40
    96. Barcelona GP - BMW Z4 GT3
    97. Highlands Drift - Ferrari 458 Italia
    98. Spa - Lotus Type 49
    99. Zandvoort - Porsche 911 GT1-98
    100. Silverstone - Nissan GT-R GT3;
    100. Brands Hatch - Lotus Exige V6; Vallelunga - free car
    101. Mugello - Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio
    102. Silverstone National - Mazda MX5 Cup or Abarth 500 Assetto Corse
    103. Highlands Short – Ford Escort RS1600 Posted by Totall Wrytoff 11th Nov 2018 (Console Lounge p2)
    104. Black Cat Short – Porsche 917/30
    105. Monza 66 Junior Course – Ferrari F40 S3
    106. Magione – Toyota Supra MkIV
    107. Brands Hatch Indy 5 lap - Porsche 911 GT3 RS
    107. Nurburgring Sprint - Porsche 911 GT3 RS
    108. Nordschleife - Abarth 595SS
    108 Laguna Seca 5 lap - McLaren F1 GTR
    109. Brands Hatch - Ferrari FXX K
    110. Highlands – Lamborghini Miura P400 SV
    111. Imola - Scuderia Glickenhaus SCG 003C
    112. Vallelunga Club – Lotus Exos T125
    113. Highlands Drift - Porsche Cayman GT4 Clubsport
    114. Barcelona Moto - Maserati 250F 6 cylinder
    115. Silverstone GP – Ferrari F138
    116. Laguna Seca – Lotus 72D
    117. Red Bull Ring GP - Ferrari SF15-T
    118. Spa Francorchamps – Maserati Quattroporte GTS
    119. Zandvoort – Toyota AE86
    120. Silverstone National – BMW M3 E92 Step 1
    121. Silverstone 1967 – Ford GT40
    122. Nurburgring GP - Porsche 919 Hybrid 2016
    123. Highlands Drift Circuit – Porsche 718 RS 60 Spyder
    124. Nordschleife Endurance – Porsche 962C Long Tail
    125. Red Bull Ring National - Audi R8 V10 Plus
    126. Imola – Ferrari 330 P4
    127. Monza 1966 Road Course - Pagani Huayra BC
    128. Mugello – Ferrari GTO
    129. Vallelunga – Lamborghini Sesto Elemento
    130. Black Cat County – Shelby Cobra 427S/C
    131. Laguna Seca – Lotus Evora GTC
    132. Brands Hatch GP – McLaren MP4 12C
    133. Highlands Long – Chevrolet Corvette C7R
    134. Monza GP – Lamborghini Gallardo SL S3/ Countach S1
    135. Magione – Mazda MX-5 ND
    136. Nordschleife Endurance Cup – Ferrari F2004
    137. Barcelona Moto – Lotus Exige S Roadster
    138. Monza 1966 Full Course – Porsche 918 Spyder
    139. Spa Francorchamps – Ferrari 812 Superfast
    140. Zandvoort – Mercedes Benz AMG GT3
    141. Silverstone GP – Porsche Cayman GT4
    142. Vallelunga Classic – Tatuus FA10
    143. Brands Hatch GP - Audi Quattro Sport Step 1
    144. Red Bull Ring GP - Ferrari 488 GTB
    145. Nurburgring GP (GT ) – BMW M3 E30 Group A
    146. Imola – Ferrari 458 Italia Step 3
    147. Laguna Seca – KTM X-Bow R
    148. Mugello – Ford GT40
    149. Vallelunga Club – Maserati Levante S (Posted by Graveltrap!)
    150. Nordschleife - Lotus 98T (October 2019 - Posted by Totall Wrytoff)
    150. Nordschleife - Nissan Nismo GT-R
    150. Highlands - Mercedes-Benz C9 1989 LM
    150. Brands Hatch Indy - McLaren P1 GTR (Race event)
    151. Barcelona Moto – Lamborghini Huracan ST
    152. Spa Francorchamps – Shelby Cobra 427 S/C
    153. Brands Hatch GP – Porsche 911 Carrera RSR 3.0
    153. Silverstone ’67 – Mercedes SLS AMG (Race event)
    154. Monza GP - Audi R8 LMS 2016
    155. Nurburgring Sprint - Porsche Panamera Turbo (First thread by F1415182235)
    156. Silverstone International - Mazda RX-7 Tuned
    157. Highlands Short - Ferrari 599XX EVO
    158. Barcelona GP - Porsche 962C Short Tail
    159. Monza 1966 Road Course – McLaren 570S (Posted by Totall Wrytoff)
    159. Imola – BMW M4 Akrapovic
    159. Black Cat County Short – Lotus Type 49
    160. Mugello – BMW M3 E30 Step 1
    161. Spa Francochamps – McLaren 650s GT3
    162. Magione - Ruf CTR Yellowbird
    163. Highlands Drift – Lotus Elise SC Step 1
    164. Silverstone GP - Tatuus FA01
    165. Nurburgring Sprint - Guilietta QVLE (First thread by Pretend racer)
    166. Highlands Long – Ferrari 330P4 and Ford GT40 (Posted by moodyryder)
    167. Zandvoort – Porsche Cayenne Turbo S (Totall Wrytoff)
    168. Black Cat County Long - Porsche 919 Hybrid 2015
    169. Vallelunga Club – Porsche 718 Boxster S (Pr)
    170. Imola – Ferrari F2004 (TW)
    171. Brands Hatch Indy - Abarth 595 SS Step 2 (TW)
    171. Nordschleife Endurance - BMW Z4 E89
    172. Laguna Seca – Audi Sport Quattro (Pr)
    173. Red Bull Ring GP - Toyota Supra MKIV (Mdyrdr)
    174. Brands Hatch GP - Audi TT RS VLN (TW)
    174. Mugello - Mazda 787B
    175. Highlands Short - Maserati 250F 6 cylinder (DM)
    175. Black Cat County - Maserati 250F 12 cylinder
    176. Nurburgring GP - Lamborghini Huracan GT3 (Pr)
    177. Spa Francochamps – Porsche 911 GT3 RS (Mdyrdr)
    178. Silverstone GP – Lotus Type 25 or Elise SC (TW)
    179. Laguna Seca – Praga R1
     

    Attached Files:



  2. I hope the driving is less challenging than that question!:D

    Wow, that was tough.
    Vote correctly????:eek:

    Bet I'm wrong.:rolleyes:
     
  3. P308R

    P308R Hardcore Simmer

    I am a sucker from fwd racecars because of the supertourers and my favorite brand ever > Peugeot

    Since that is not on the list I'll go with the Audi even if I prefer the Beemer by a mile. Very interesting to see how this'll work out.
     
  4. Provisional, just to immediately satisfy my curiosity
    Totall Wrytoff
    PS4
    Fuel at 10 litres, tyres at recommended, all else stock.
    After 5 laps, Coke first....

    Coke
    1.01.500
    ------
    Pepsi
    1.01.736

    upload_2020-5-23_19-10-55.png
    I confess.
    I was hugely tempted to sandbag the Audi, especially running it after the BM.:D
    However - I preferred the BM, am fastest in the BM and I answered the question correctly!
    Phew.
    Of course it may be different by the end of the week. The Audi goes well.
     
  5. GoodGame.eXistenZ

    GoodGame.eXistenZ Hardcore Simmer

    Can't wait to give them a go ;). Surely the BMW is faster, the Audi is somewhat slow in AC.

    Although I am facing issues with my Fanatec gear for a while now. There are shifter issues(e.g. I select 3rd gear, but it goes into 1st and engine goes KABOOM), pedal issues (4% brake input sometimes, throttle onlys goes to 90%) and Wheelbase issues (Wheelbase randomly disconnecting in game and steering wheel turn to the right). Especially great when you are in a race eh? Most issues come and go, but this is really not acceptable in this price range. Of course there are plenty of other people with same issues, but Fanatec support in this case is terrible (e.g. have you tried installing new drivers...wow) and even after a RMA for the shifter, the issue came back after a year. Great in terms of driving, but reliability of Fanatec products really is a major LETDOWN. I never had such issues in years of use with my G27.
    Enough said, I also started practicing for GT3 as I will be taking part in the ADAC Simracing League this summer. So I have a training scheduled to make the best of it ;).
     
  6. mike reynolds

    mike reynolds Hardcore Simmer

    Mike Reynolds
    PC
    1:00:893

    As my last 4 cars have all been Audi's, it pains me to be a second quicker in the BMW!

    Monza66 BMW.PNG
     
  7. Coke
    Totall Wrytoff
    1.00.601
    PS4
    upload_2020-5-24_14-48-5.png
    Been in the Praga for the last few hours trying to raise my game.
    (This is much more fun:))
     
  8. GoodGame.eXistenZ

    GoodGame.eXistenZ Hardcore Simmer

    Pepsi
    GoodGame.eXistenZ
    PC
    1:00:147
    [​IMG]
    Video

    Time in the video is 59:614 done on 10°.

    Pepsi
    GoodGame.eXistenZ
    PC
    59:684
    [​IMG]
    Video


    Knew the BMW would be faster - easy going :)
    I found it very hard to improve with the Audi up to 1:00:1xx. A 59 is very hard work I guess ;)
     
  9. P308R

    P308R Hardcore Simmer

    Setting a benchmark :eek: Fantastic runs. Is there anything you aren't fast in. Maybe we should imply bop :p
     
  10. GoodGame.eXistenZ

    GoodGame.eXistenZ Hardcore Simmer

    Thanks pal. F1...that is where I am slow:D

    Forgot to name the BMW Coke but I think it is obvious
     
  11. Pepsi
    Totall Wrytoff
    1.01.686
    Ps4
    upload_2020-5-24_20-39-54.png
    This is a pig of a corner in the Audi.
     
  12. Peggy11

    Peggy11 Hardcore Simmer

    Pepsi

    Peggy11
    1:01:545
    PC

    Audi S1.png

    Nice car and nice track, however I fear due to the relative simplicity of both there's far less scope for improvement than other weeks?
    Lets see what coke brings.
     
  13. Peggy11

    Peggy11 Hardcore Simmer

    Coke

    Peggy11
    1:00:657
    PC

    BMW E30 S1.png

    As I voted, quicker in the BMW. There's going to be some close times come the end of this WHC I suspect :D
     
  14. GoodGame.eXistenZ

    GoodGame.eXistenZ Hardcore Simmer

    Yes. Four corners is all you get here :D
     
  15. Laughing Gravy

    Laughing Gravy Hardcore Simmer

    I'm a contrarian. [​IMG]

    Sent from my SM-G970U using Tapatalk
     
  16. Mustang 500

    Mustang 500 Simracer

    Coke
    Mustang 500
    59.662
    XB1
    IMG_1709.JPG
    Even though I like the looks of the newer Audi slightly better the BMW drives like a dream and I prefer cars with rear wheel drive. I don't think that the Audi is going to top this car in lap time.
     
  17. GoodGame.eXistenZ

    GoodGame.eXistenZ Hardcore Simmer

    @Mustang 500 Nice:cool: So I need to get going huh? :p

    edit:
    improvement
    Coke
    GoodGame.eXistenZ
    PC
    59:450
    [​IMG]
     
    Last edited: May 25, 2020
  18. P308R

    P308R Hardcore Simmer

    Bastian Boillot
    1:00:753
    Pepsi
    PS4

    Bastian Boillot
    1:00:077
    Coke
    PS4

    Insights:
    59x laps in the Audi
    31x laps in the BMW

    AUDI S1 et BMW M3.png

    I have some serious trouble with the Audi. It could have some better suspension and a gearbox that actually pulls. It feels so slow at times.



    The BMW is just great to drive. Its brakes need a bit more road to stop the car but it makes up for it in sheer drivability!

     
  19. Pretend racer

    Pretend racer Hardcore Simmer

    Yes and no lol. We will be fighting for tenths of a second, but learning how to get those few tenths is how you will improve your overall race I.Q. The setup is quite basic but it still has an effect so its worth trying all the settings to see what works best. Monza Jr. is such a short course that you will quickly be able to decide if a setup change was beneficial or not.

    Goodgame was able to improve over 2 tenths with a little motivation from Mustang. I'd call that fairly significant considering both of the had already gone 59.6 which is faster than the wr.

    Pitting an old race car against a modern street car wasn't necessarily a fair fight when we are comparing performance on a track. But the times were so close on the RSR boards. The thing I didn't notice right away but @P308R did, is that the previous WR holder did about 450km's in the Audi to get under 1 min. But he only did 11km in the BMW to set the same time.

    In the end I suppose it will take a motivated and skilled person to be faster in the street car than the race car. Who would have guessed that? :p
     
    Mustang 500, Neilski, Peggy11 and 2 others like this.
  20. @P308R
    If I'm reading your graph right, amazingly consistent, lap 29 is where you peak, but what happens to you on Lap 19?:D
     
    Mustang 500, Peggy11 and P308R like this.

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