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Generic Weekly Hotlap Challenge 184 - Drifters Duel

Discussion in 'Console Lounge' started by Pretend racer, Jun 20, 2020.

  1. Pretend racer

    Pretend racer Hardcore Simmer

    Welcome to the thread for the Weekly Hotlap Challenge 184 – Drifters Duel

    This idea for this week’s challenge, as with most weeks, is to try to totally contrast with last week’s (mega) challenge! So, this week, it is lots of tire shredding sideways action under the Spanish sun. The German gunslingers are in town and Barcelona is only big enough for one German Drift Master. Who will be left standing once the smoke clears?

    Challenge: Hotlap
    Car: BMW M3 e30 drift and/or
    BMW M3 e92 drift


    Track: Barcelona GP


    I think one of the hardest skills to master is the art of detecting the absolute limits of traction while maintaining control and speed. That's why I like to drive overpowered rear wheel drive cars that rely on the driver to finesse the speed out of the beast. When you get it right you feel like a hero :D and when you get it wrong you still come out of the unintended epic sideways drift :eek: with a huge smile on your face :) and maybe a little patch of wetness on your pants :p!

    Barcelona has some of the best drifting corners of all the vanilla AC tracks, and the BMW's are the best drifters. With the stock setup both cars are evenly matched when it comes to laptimes, I wonder if there will be another virtual trophy awarded this week? ;)

    Does it really take 30 years of technological progress to be able to burn rubber? Both cars are BMW's, and they are both M3's, but they feel totally different. Lightweight, low power vs technology and more power. What do you prefer?
    Either way, both cars respond well to smooth and progressive inputs, and the smoother you can be, the faster you will go. The long sweeping curves really give you time to concentrate on dancing that line between grip and drift while your applying the throttle. Finesse is key.

    Bonus Internet Points for anyone who posts any epic drifts, or saves, or who can match my feat of literally blowing up the rear tires in a drift! Check out the sparks in the mirror! First time that has ever happened to me - kinda proud of myself :D

    I was able to set the WR on RSR in both cars during testing. 2min 08seconds is the current target. I'm sure that with a setup designed more for racing than drifting the times will be faster. Please share your tunes!

    Ideal tire psi
    BMW m3 e30 - SemiSlicks 31 Front and Rear
    BMW m3 e92 - SemiSlicks 33 Front, 34 Rear

    How to take part:
    To enter, select Hotlap, choose the Ferrari F40 and the Black Cat County Long Circuit.
    Please setup the session as shown below:
    Mode: Hotlap
    Ambient Temp: 26 Degrees
    Setup: Time of day: Free / Controller: Free / Assists: Free / Stability: Free
    To qualify you must have the ambient temp set to 26 Deg C.

    Deadline: Sunday 27th June 2020
    Chequered Flag will drop shortly before 18:00 (GMT+1).

    You can run as many laps as you can manage and update your times as often as you like. It is all about taking part, pushing yourself and enjoying Assetto Corsa. All Platforms are welcome. To submit a time, pause the game and select 'session' from the menu and screenshot this page or take a photo of your screen and post it in this thread - Note all the information from the screen is required including temperature, mode heading (Hotlap) and of course the car being used!
    Please use the following format to post your times:
    (Only required if you have already posted a time)
    Your name (as you would like it to appear on the leaderboard)
    Your time - shown as x.xx.xxx.
    Your platform (PC Xb1 PS4)
    The screen shot showing your time.
    (Optional but in the spirit) Your thoughts or any comment
    Please post video clips and share information here as well.

    Weekly Hotlap Challenge History
    1. Mugello - Praga R1 (Posted by John Gordon 3 Oct, 2016)
    2. Imola - Mercedes SLS GT3
    3. Brands Hatch GP - RUF RT12 (GravelTrap 19 Oct 16)
    4. Magione - Lotus 2 Eleven
    5. Silverstone International - Abarth 500 Assetto Corse
    6. Zandvoort - Pagani Huayra
    7. Nurburgring GP (GT) - Alfa Romeo 155 V6 TI
    8. Spa - BMW M3 GT2
    9. Vallelunga Club - KTM X-Bow R
    10. Barcelona - Moto - Shelby Cobra 427 S/C
    11. Silverstone 1967 - Lotus 72D
    12. Nordschleife - Porsche 911 Carrera S
    13. Black Cat County - Ferrari LaFerrari
    14. Monza Junior 1966 - Alfa Romeo GTA
    15. Redbull Ring GP - Lamborghini Gallardo SL
    16. Zandvoort - Ford Escort RS1600
    17. Imola - Mazda Rx-7 Spirit R
    18. Brands Hatch GP - Lotus Exige V6 Cup
    19. Monza - Ferrari FXX K
    20. Barcelona - Moto - Ferrari 488 GT3
    21. Mugello - Alfa Romeo Giulietta QV
    22. Silverstone GP - Porsche 911 GT3 Cup 2017
    23. Nurburgring Sprint GT - Toyota AE86 Tuned
    24. Magione - Maserati Levante S
    25. Spa - Lotus 98T
    26. Vallelunga - Classic - Porsche 935/78 "Moby Dick"
    27. Nordschleife Endurance Cup - M235i Racing
    28. Silverstone 1967 - Maserati 250F T2 12C
    29. Red Bull Ring National - BMW 1M (HavanaB0B, 1 May 17)
    30. Zandvoort - Lotus Evora GX
    31. Barcelona GP - Lotus Exos 125 Stage 1
    32. Brands Hatch Indy - Toyota Supra MKIV Time Attack (Graveltrap 21 May 17)
    33. Black Cat County Long - Lamborghini Countach
    34. Imola - Mercedes Benz 190E Evo II
    35. Monza - Chevrolet Corvette C7R
    36. Nurburgring Sprint GT - BMW M3 E30
    37. Magione - Mercedes SLS AMG
    38. Spa - Porsche 917/30 Spyder
    39. Silverstone GP - Nissan GT-R Nismo (Hugo Catarino, 9 July 17)
    40. RedBull Ring GP - Alfa Romeo 4c
    41. Brands Hatch GP - Audi R8 LMS Ultra
    42. Highlands Long - Ford GT40
    43. Vallelunga - Lotus GTE Carbon
    44. Zandvoort - Porsche 911 Turbo S (Graveltrap 13 Aug 17)
    45. Nordschleife - Ferrari 312T
    46. Mugello - BMW M3 E92
    47. Black Cat County - Short - Ford Mustang 2015
    48. Imola - Maserati MC12 GT1
    49. Silverstone 1967 - Porsche 911 Carrera RSR 3.0
    50. Barcelona Moto - McLaren 570S
    51. Magione - Mazda Miata NA
    52. Spa - Ferrari F40
    53. Vallelunga - Corvette C7 Stingray (Moodyryder 23 Oct 17)
    54. Brands Hatch GP - Tatuus FA01
    55. Highlands - Lotus 3 eleven
    56. Nurburgring GP (GT) - Toyota Celica ST185 4WD Turbo
    57. Monza 1966 Full Course - Ferrari 312/67
    58. Nordschleife - Porsche 962 C Short Tail
    59. Zandvoort- Nissan 370Z Nismo
    60. Silverstone GP - McLaren F1
    61. Vallelunga Classic - Ferrari 250GTO
    62. Imola - Lotus 98T
    63. Highlands Drift - P4/5 Competizione
    64. Mugello - Lamborghini Aventador SV
    65. Spa - Porsche 911R
    66. Black Cat County - Lotus 2-Eleven GT4
    67. Barcelona GP - Ferrari SF70H
    68. Nordschleife Endurance & Highlands - Porsche 917k
    69. Zandvoort - Lotus Exige Scura (Hugo Catarino 25 Feb 18)
    70. RedBull Ring National - Maserati Alfieri
    71. Laguna Seca - Audi Sport quattro S1 E2
    72. Brands Hatch - McLaren P1
    73. Imola - Porsche 911 RSR
    74. Nurburgring GP - Ferrari F2004
    75. Barcelona Moto - Lamborghini Huracan Performante
    76. Silverstone 1967 - Alfa Romeo 33 Stradale
    77. Magione - BMW 1M Stage 3
    78. Highlands Long - Mazda 787b
    79. Black Cat County - Toyota GT86
    80. Spa - Toyota TS040 Hybrid
    81. Vallelunga Classic - Nissan Skyline R34 V-Spec
    82. Mugello - Ferrari 458 GT2
    83. Silverstone International - RUF R12 R AWD
    84. Highlands Long - Audi R18 e-tron quattro 2014
    85. Monza - Pagani Zonda R
    86. Nordschleife - Lotus 3-eleven
    87. Zandvoort - Maserati GranTurismo MC GT4
    88. Redbull Ring GP - Mercedes Sauber C9
    89. Brands Hatch - Lotus Type 25
    90. Highlands Short - Abarth 595 SS
    91. Nurburgring GP (GT) - Audi TT Cup
    92. Monza 1966 - Road Course - Porsche 908 LH
    93. Vallelunga - BMW M3 E30 Gr.A 92
    94. Laguna Seca - Alfa Romeo Mito QV
    95. Nordschleife - RUF Yellowbird & Ferrari F40
    96. Barcelona GP - BMW Z4 GT3
    97. Highlands Drift - Ferrari 458 Italia
    98. Spa - Lotus Type 49
    99. Zandvoort - Porsche 911 GT1-98
    100. Silverstone - Nissan GT-R GT3;
    100. Brands Hatch - Lotus Exige V6; Vallelunga - free car
    101. Mugello - Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio
    102. Silverstone National - Mazda MX5 Cup or Abarth 500 Assetto Corse
    103. Highlands Short – Ford Escort RS1600 (Totall Wrytoff 11 Nov 18)
    104. Black Cat Short – Porsche 917/30
    105. Monza 66 Junior Course – Ferrari F40 S3
    106. Magione – Toyota Supra MkIV
    107. Brands Hatch Indy 5 lap - Porsche 911 GT3 RS
    107. Nurburgring Sprint - Porsche 911 GT3 RS
    108. Nordschleife - Abarth 595SS
    108 Laguna Seca 5 lap - McLaren F1 GTR
    109. Brands Hatch - Ferrari FXX K
    110. Highlands – Lamborghini Miura P400 SV
    111. Imola - Scuderia Glickenhaus SCG 003C
    112. Vallelunga Club – Lotus Exos T125
    113. Highlands Drift - Porsche Cayman GT4 Clubsport
    114. Barcelona Moto - Maserati 250F 6 cylinder
    115. Silverstone GP – Ferrari F138
    116. Laguna Seca – Lotus 72D
    117. Red Bull Ring GP - Ferrari SF15-T
    118. Spa Francorchamps – Maserati Quattroporte GTS
    119. Zandvoort – Toyota AE86
    120. Silverstone National – BMW M3 E92 Step 1
    121. Silverstone 1967 – Ford GT40
    122. Nurburgring GP - Porsche 919 Hybrid 2016
    123. Highlands Drift Circuit – Porsche 718 RS 60 Spyder
    124. Nordschleife Endurance – Porsche 962C Long Tail
    125. Red Bull Ring National - Audi R8 V10 Plus
    126. Imola – Ferrari 330 P4
    127. Monza 1966 Road Course - Pagani Huayra BC
    128. Mugello – Ferrari GTO
    129. Vallelunga – Lamborghini Sesto Elemento
    130. Black Cat County – Shelby Cobra 427S/C
    131. Laguna Seca – Lotus Evora GTC
    132. Brands Hatch GP – McLaren MP4 12C
    133. Highlands Long – Chevrolet Corvette C7R
    134. Monza GP – Lamborghini Gallardo SL S3/ Countach S1
    135. Magione – Mazda MX-5 ND
    136. Nordschleife Endurance Cup – Ferrari F2004
    137. Barcelona Moto – Lotus Exige S Roadster
    138. Monza 1966 Full Course – Porsche 918 Spyder
    139. Spa Francorchamps – Ferrari 812 Superfast
    140. Zandvoort – Mercedes Benz AMG GT3
    141. Silverstone GP – Porsche Cayman GT4
    142. Vallelunga Classic – Tatuus FA10
    143. Brands Hatch GP - Audi Quattro Sport Step 1
    144. Red Bull Ring GP - Ferrari 488 GTB
    145. Nurburgring GP (GT ) – BMW M3 E30 Group A
    146. Imola – Ferrari 458 Italia Step 3
    147. Laguna Seca – KTM X-Bow R
    148. Mugello – Ford GT40
    149. Vallelunga Club – Maserati Levante S (Posted by Graveltrap!)
    150. Nordschleife - Lotus 98T (October 2019 - Posted by Totall Wrytoff)
    150. Nordschleife - Nissan Nismo GT-R
    150. Highlands - Mercedes-Benz C9 1989 LM
    150. Brands Hatch Indy - McLaren P1 GTR (Race event)
    151. Barcelona Moto – Lamborghini Huracan ST
    152. Spa Francorchamps – Shelby Cobra 427 S/C
    153. Brands Hatch GP – Porsche 911 Carrera RSR 3.0
    153. Silverstone ’67 – Mercedes SLS AMG (Race event)
    154. Monza GP - Audi R8 LMS 2016
    155. Nurburgring Sprint - Porsche Panamera Turbo (First thread by F1415182235)
    156. Silverstone International - Mazda RX-7 Tuned
    157. Highlands Short - Ferrari 599XX EVO
    158. Barcelona GP - Porsche 962C Short Tail
    159. Monza 1966 Road Course – McLaren 570S (Posted by Totall Wrytoff)
    159. Imola – BMW M4 Akrapovic
    159. Black Cat County Short – Lotus Type 49
    160. Mugello – BMW M3 E30 Step 1
    161. Spa Francochamps – McLaren 650s GT3
    162. Magione - Ruf CTR Yellowbird
    163. Highlands Drift – Lotus Elise SC Step 1
    164. Silverstone GP - Tatuus FA01
    165. Nurburgring Sprint - Guilietta QVLE (First thread by Pretend racer)
    166. Highlands Long – Ferrari 330P4 and Ford GT40 (Posted by moodyryder)
    167. Zandvoort – Porsche Cayenne Turbo S (Totall Wrytoff)
    168. Black Cat County Long - Porsche 919 Hybrid 2015
    169. Vallelunga Club – Porsche 718 Boxster S (Pr)
    170. Imola – Ferrari F2004 (TW)
    171. Brands Hatch Indy - Abarth 595 SS Step 2 (TW)
    171. Nordschleife Endurance - BMW Z4 E89
    172. Laguna Seca – Audi Sport Quattro (Pr)
    173. Red Bull Ring GP - Toyota Supra MKIV (Mdyrdr)
    174. Brands Hatch GP - Audi TT RS VLN (TW)
    174. Mugello - Mazda 787B
    175. Highlands Short - Maserati 250F 6 cylinder (DrvMd)
    175. Black Cat County - Maserati 250F 12 cylinder
    176. Nurburgring GP - Lamborghini Huracan GT3 (Pr)
    177. Spa Francochamps – Porsche 911 GT3 RS (Mdyrdr)
    178. Silverstone GP – Lotus Type 25 or Elise SC (TW)
    179. Laguna Seca – Praga R1
    180. Monza 1966 Junior Course - Audi S1 (Pr)
    180. Monza 1966 Junior Course - BMW M3 E30 Step 1
    181. Nurburgring GP (GT) – Lotus Evora S (Mdy)
    182. Nordschleife – Mazda MX5 ND (GG.e/TW)
    183. Black Cat County Long – Ferrari F40
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  3. Great sounding combi @Pretend racer !

    Vid made me laugh.
    Running on the rims doesn't appear to affect the complete lack of traction.:)

    I'm off to fire up and see if this is a skid fest!:D
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  4. E92
    Totall Wrytoff
    I did 5 laps in each last night. Slightly reduced fuel only.
    Wow, this challenge is massively different to last week!

    So the cars run to equal times then, eh?
    In that case, I'm not posting the time I got in the E30 and I'm having another go!!:oops:
  5. GoodGame.eXistenZ

    GoodGame.eXistenZ Hardcore Simmer

    Interesting combo - is this a drift or a hotlap challenge :D ? Luckily the track is well known - I just could not find the time to learn the track for WHC 183. :( Would have been something to have the best drifter competition here^^. I suck at drifting - never done it.:D:eek:
    So, the stock drift cars have way too much camber, so I reduced both values F/R by about 50-75%. I wish the M3 E92 would have been H-shifter right from the start, it makes it so much more enjoyable...

    BMW M3 E30 drift

    BMW M3 E92 drift
    2:06:988 (forgot to screenshot - so here is the RSR entry)
  6. It would be hugely interesting to see the time you get without knowing the track!:D
    We don't mind.;)
  7. I've got a souvenir to share, relevant to this post and that I hope, with his obvious pathological hatred of rubber, our host @Pretend racer would approve of.

    I used to have an E90 M3, here is a piece of delaminated and shredded rear tyre that I keep on my desk. (pen for size ref)
    I had a driving coach day in my car at Bruntingthorpe (old UK airfield now used for speed testing etc) which, you would think, would brilliant fun.
    It was about going really fast and understanding oversteer.
    But it left me in deep trauma and very, very unpopular at home!

    The set of newish rear tyres I had arrived on, had vapourised within 30mins. (Makes a nasty, alarming flapping sound and you stop v. quick!)
    "Fair bit of power in this beastie" the instructor murmured, "I bought a spare set for you, just in case."
    My fear started. There was such a long day still to go, with a three hour drive home afterwards.
    The second set of rear tyres lasted for nearly an hour!
    At lunchtime we had to drive to the nearest shop and buy TWO more sets for the afternoon. :)eek: (That was NOT my idea, it was his!!)
    We stopped driving early and I just made it home on the second set. The next morning the fifth set of rear tyres in two days were fitted.
    £285 a pop.:D Literally.
    Gutted. Never again.

    Footnote - The AC version of the M3 is sooooo wrong. Completely not right.
    I had a manual, which evidently has different gear ratios to the semi. 3rd would take you to 105mph and the sound was just "go for it!" utterly fabulous!
    I had a few "ten tenths" drives in the Highlands.
    When you were on it, the car came up on it toes, and I haven't the words to describe just how much of a Driving-God it made you feel... but trust me. The memories are vivid scintillating. (A940 Forres to Grantown, late one sunny afternoon.... I get goosebumps.)
    What. A (nice family.) Car!:)
    Last edited: Jun 21, 2020
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  8. P308R

    P308R Hardcore Simmer

    This is literally my worst nightmare come true :D I can't drift due to an overgrown heavy right foot :rolleyes:
  9. P308R

    P308R Hardcore Simmer

    Bastian Boillot


    Well this isn't something I enjoy driving :mad:
  10. Neilski

    Neilski Alien

    OMFG! o_O:eek::confused:
  11. P308R

    P308R Hardcore Simmer

    Bastian Boillot

    And it ends here. Don't want to ruin my sunday evening with this :p If I am cooled down enough, I may give it another try. Definitely need to relax now! So,

    This evening it is NASCAR (Cup) evening at Talladega and if you guys would like to give it a try, you can follow the race live onboard (Chase Elliott) ande it'll be spectacular!


    Highlight Xfinity yesterday


    @Totall Wrytoff 5 sets of rear tires :eek: Next time you should buy a set of blue or red neon smokers which costs 1/3 of those roadgoing ones. Bloody lord, an expensive day out o_O Luckily I drive a FWD :D
    Last edited: Jun 21, 2020
  12. LadyTW

    LadyTW Racer

    Out of all the cars I've had to put up with, that BMW was lovely and my favourite. I would have one again.:)
  13. P308R

    P308R Hardcore Simmer

    Oh boy, I feel there is a lot to tell :D
  14. Alexis_RS_MKII

    Alexis_RS_MKII Simracer

    I started with the funniest one! I'll try the e92 later this week :rolleyes:

    BMW M3 E30 drift

    Biner, Pretend racer, Peggy11 and 4 others like this.
  15. Haha!
    Funny you should say that.:);)

    LadyTW is in fact responsible, and 've been very lucky in breadth and depth, for one of THE best experiences I've ever had in a car. And I wasn't driving, I was a passenger.
    (Cleanly, chaps!! Cars and driving, nothing else. Not being smutty for once. It does read poorly perhaps, no other way to say it.:rolleyes:)
    It was genuine, automotive delight.
    I'll request clearance before publication.:)
    Biner, Pretend racer, Peggy11 and 2 others like this.
  16. Improvement
    Totall Wrytoff
    Tyre pressures now sorted and alignment at factory settings.

    If only Kunos had used the manual to model and got the sound right.
    Or even better, given us the CSL.
  17. Seen you liking that almost immediately @P308R :D:D
    Sneaky one coming? I've fallen for the false white flag?;):eek:
  18. P308R

    P308R Hardcore Simmer

    Haha no no, don't worry. I need at least one night sleep before I dare to try that again :confused:;)
  19. F1415182235

    F1415182235 Hardcore Simmer

    Didn't realize how much info the PC version gives for each car.
    Pretend racer and Peggy11 like this.
  20. E30
    Totall Wrytoff
    I've now had quite a few laps in the E30.
    Thinking @Alexis_RS_MKII has gone very quickly indeed!!:cool:
  21. P308R

    P308R Hardcore Simmer

    Bastian Boillot

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