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Well Done Elfyn Evans

Discussion in 'Chit Chat Room' started by iannixxenakis, Dec 6, 2017.

  1. iannixxenakis

    iannixxenakis Hardcore Simmer

    Not seen any posts about Elfyn Evans's Wales Rally GB win a while ago, or much press coverage of it, so I thought I'd try and rectify the situation.

    First UK driver to win it since Richard Burns in 2000.

    Well done M-Sport and Ogier too.

    Nice to see a non-factory team win the championship.

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  3. Solmyr

    Solmyr Racer

    Huh ? Ogier didn't get it eventually ? I don't follow this but thought he was mastering. There was a time when french domination was quite predictable ; victory : 79,5% Loeb ; 19,5% Ogier ; 1% others :D

    Then well done and welcome to this Brit guy ! :)
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  4. iannixxenakis

    iannixxenakis Hardcore Simmer

    Ogier won the World Championship at Wales Rally GB but Evans won the rally (important for a British driver to win the national rally).

    Evans's father was a rally driver too, I watched him race on TV in the 90s.
  5. Mogster

    Mogster Alien

    I saw almost no coverage of the event in the UK mainstream media, only the usual CH5 highlights on the Monday after the event. It’s amazing how far the WRC has fallen from public view in the UK.

    Let’s not forget that 30 years ago the RAC attracted well over a million spectators annually...
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  6. iannixxenakis

    iannixxenakis Hardcore Simmer

    Yes it's sad.

    In some ways it's the ultimate motorsport, hard to quantify obviously, but as an argument it has some merit (not convinced that it's somehow self-evident that F1 has all the best drivers and is the 'pinnacle' of motorsport).

    At least I got to watch the full length replay of Channel 5's coverage without knowing who won in advance, because the media ignored it.

    Those were good times when the RAC Rally was big news. I loved watching it on TV when I was a kid (wasn't old enough to go and see it and my parents wouldn't take me as they had no interest in sport).

    I wonder what happened?

    Did fans stop going and the media followed suit? Or was it the other way round?
  7. Mogster

    Mogster Alien

    In the 80s the RAC was massive, 4 days, 600 unique stage Kms.

    You’d have Sunday starting in the Midlands with spectator friendly country house stages like Chatsworth and Sutton Park, then Monday up North to Kielder for Pundershaw and the Borders. Tuesday you’d be in Cumbria for Grizedale, Wednesday it’d be Wales and Dovey...

    The drivers moaned about them but the number of country park stages shoved the event into people’s faces. I was lucky enough to have Haigh Hall within walking distance of my house then. Watching and hearing the GPB cars thundering through the forrest at night was fantastic, something that’s stuck in my mind for ever. I went to Sutton Park when I lived in Birmingham also, for people on the route ( and it was a long route...) watching the rally was almost something you just did then. I remember walking to the local event, like joining a football crowd but it was international motorsports near my house!!! At the time it was bigger than F1 no question. There wasn’t really any likelihood of an outright home win, no one seemed to care...

    The loss of GPB in 87 was a huge downer. GPA just wasn’t the same, the sound particularly, like watching road cars by comparison even though the cars were soon faster again. Then the stage miles were reduced, less night stages, less accessible country park stages. Then the event moved to Wales only a few years ago and seems to have disappeared from view, no interest from the media even when a British guy wins.

    I’m enjoyed the 17 WRC, the new cars are a step in the right direction. I do feel the events are too short and repeating stages when the events are so short grates. I’d like to see 400-500 unique stage kms again, the current WRC events feel like club rallies which I find unsatisfying. The manufacturers and FIA seem more interested in corporate entertainment opportunities than the actual event. I’m not sure about the WRC is still attracting the level of driver it was, Ogier is a class act but guys like Meeke and a Tanak, really? It’ll be interesting to see how Loeb performs on his return next year.

    Bit of nostalgia. The stuff from Trentham at 12:30+ is a bit :eek: from a crowd control point of view... The guy doing the voice over doesn’t seem to notice :D

    Dyfnant cancelled part way as 20,000 people turned up...

    Last edited: Dec 7, 2017
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  8. iannixxenakis

    iannixxenakis Hardcore Simmer

    Nice rundown of recent rally history, thanks Mogster.

    Sounds like the FIA and rally authorities need to pull their fingers out.

    I wonder if there was any deliberate hobbling of the WRC because it was a threat to F1?
  9. iannixxenakis

    iannixxenakis Hardcore Simmer

    (Deleted, double post, bad internet).

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