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where is the real stability control (factory) ?!!

Discussion in 'PlayStation 4 Discussions' started by billelstar, Sep 12, 2016.

  1. billelstar

    billelstar Gamer

    Hi evryone..i am just asking why they did not put a factory option for the SC like they did it for TCS and ABS..i think that it would be more realistic then percentage (0% to 100%),i find this option arcade and universal,it can be used for all cars in the game and bring the same effect..
    Even if i play without SC (set it to 0%) the most stock cars and some GT with ABS got the SC (ESP) in option but this option can be turned on or off,not selected between 0 and 100% because each car got his own calculated stability system according to his power Engine and technology.
    AC did the right thing for TCS :
    (On/off) on stock cars.
    Selected between value until off on GT and prepared cars.
    But they should do the same for SC like project cars or set the value for each cars differently..but the real thing for a simulation is that can be controled from the car on road like TCS!!
    Thank you

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  3. Epistolarius

    Epistolarius Alien

    The 'stability control' setting is entirely artificial and for beginners and has nothing to do with the real cars. It's recommended to disable it entirely.
    Matt White, Fanapryde and ears1991 like this.
  4. crimespree

    crimespree Racer

    because there are simply too many algorithms between brands and it simply isn't feasible to put the effort in for something that everyone who knows what they are doing is just going to turn off. No sims do this properly.
    Rift Racer, ears1991 and billelstar like this.
  5. AC Support

    AC Support Official Support Staff Member KS Dev Team

    Correct answer.
  6. billelstar

    billelstar Gamer

    I do disabled it ..i dont play with any assistance but i just only said that it would be a real thing to get a choice to turn it on or off for the car who really own it and not have a choice to configure it for all cars even if the car dont possese the ESC
    And by the way ESC Is a real and not artificial thing in most modern cars,maybe kunos made it by their own way but it still real thing
    Because the SC present in AC is artifical and makes the driving similar and easy for all cars..this should be removed or corrected mostly if they include the private lobbies and give the host possiblity to allow this option
    In project cars ESC is a real option only present in cars who really own it..but dont give you the same aids as AC do,for example in project cars when you play with all steering assist set to factory you can be easily beaten by someone who play without assistance,not the case of AC,
    This is for what they should bring a correction above or remove it from online games
    Last edited: Sep 12, 2016
  7. Tberg

    Tberg Alien

    It´s a bad idea to bring such comparisons here, especially physics related. And full assists in AC has always been slower too, it´s just a different animal than pC.
    I understand you want ESC/SC simulated, but we also want oil, water, brakes etc, to work if it makes any sense spending time on it. As the SC option works as intended in AC right now, I think a "proper" simulated ESC would be on the bottom of the to-do list, doubtfully even on that list. I personally care 0% about it.
    Last edited: Sep 12, 2016
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  8. V8_KB

    V8_KB Alien

    SC/ESP systems in real life are very complicated and simulating them properly would take a lot of resources, both dev time and CPU power. Also I think (but I'm not sure) that I read from one of the the devs on forum or maybe it was in one of Stefano's streams, that manufacturers don't really want to share data related to those systems.

    Just because another game has that option for cars that have it in real life doesn't mean that it's simulated in correct way.

    SC in AC won't make you faster, it will just help you correct the slide in unnatural way. So it only helps in situations in which you are losing time anyway. The difference for less skilled players is that without SC they will lose the car and spin and with SC they won't. But if both laps will be clean, without any overdriving, then SC won't help and it won't make you faster. It doesn't add any horsepower nor traction, it just stops the car from spinning.
  9. billelstar

    billelstar Gamer

    Good answer..
    i know that it won't make you faster I know what SC/ESP means ..but all i said is that the SC in AC on 100% make the steering very easy to control even for hyper car...for example race 10 laps on monza without SC..if you try to be the faster (wich is the aim) or to get best lap time u have more risk of spinning and losing control then someone who play with 100% SC..this is the advantage that i am talking about,its not about going faster or power..you can drive and take a turn at high speed safely even with pad..so this give you a kind of arcade control (cheat) of any cars and i dont like it so maybe they must ban this option from online game or equilibrate his performence because racing simulation is about précision and taking risk should be beneficial or fatal
    Haulin Hebrew likes this.
  10. V8_KB

    V8_KB Alien

    Well yes, you can catch any slide with any car with even 25% SC on a pad, not to mention 100%.
    We can set which assists are allowed and which aren't on PC, so I hope you guys will get private lobbies with the full control over cars/tracks/laps/assists and all that stuff.
    Matt White and LeDude83 like this.

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