Who's at Fault? - Discussing Racecraft and Incidents

Have I ever?

 

Guys the problem is not he is too close, the problem is he braked too late...when he tried the move both of them were wrong about what to do.

 

There might exist a good skill gap between both drivers yes. I think he didn't know any of the braking when behind and less when in front. I wasn't sending it at all. I was in front and I did a mistake and got behind him, got him in clip one, saw him slow in chicane but I didn't guess he didn't know the braking for the last corner, so I hit him and waited him to recover, 2nd, clip since he was braking so much sooner I just got by his side and had him not tried to block that would have not been nothing to put on record, would have been easy and smooth without any issue whatsoever. On the 3rd clip well guess there isn't much to say...

 

It's McLaren in both cases. The first one does not need much commentary. The second was too optimistic from the start, everybody knows the kerb sends you wide there.
Then we may say the bentley should have avoided to close so late, but I would have expected that, if I had just taken him out in the same corner.
But even considering that, the mclaren should have not tried there.

 

Have you seen the whole thing??

Do you really think the Mclaren was too close?? Really??? Or was it the Bentley to brake way sooner that he should be braking?? Because one thing it's you braking soon or earlier. Another thing it's braking half way mid a straight..
The braking he was doing there would be to go into the pits had him been on the other side of the track.

 

However mclaren was sleeping. You always gotta brake earlier if you want to follow and It's not like bentley braked 50 meters earlier

 

He did tried two more before that one, and I was expecting, that's the reason I'm very wide, so I could avoid it. But couldn't. And in none of them he gained on braking

 

In fact he did brake 50 meters earlier Yes.

 

No dude. You should have considered the difference in speed.

 

I went on the curb because he bumps me into it. I wasn't going there. And as you can see by your judgement you trying everything to put me on the cross, even if you see things that don't exist lol. But keep it going. That's the reason I put it here

 

OK. If I remember, when I get home I show another clip with tree of his laps doing that braking 50 meters after

 

Why am I putting you on the cross?

 

Look at what you saying. And the way you saying. Just that lol. Not keeping this chat with you. Do your thing. It's fine anyway to me

 

You are misreading me completely. You are not having any special treatment by me.

 

Just lol. And OK

 

I make you laugh?

 

I thought that there was only one incident (the same incident is generally shown from several thousand different perspectives, so I thought that's what the rest of the clip was going to exhibit). I would say that the McLaren driver was slightly optimistic in the second incident, but the Bentley driver should have realised what was happening, and stayed a bit wider.

The third incident? Blatant dive by the Bentley driver without any hope of making the corner.

 

Hey hey hey
I can tell you it's me who made the move there. But can you tell me if it's clearly my fault? And - if it is - am I a "f*****g clown", as he called me later?



To clarify a few things:
- yes, I felt I'll make this corner without diving through the kerb and leave him enough space at the exit;
- yes, I feel it may be on me because of the track position before braking;
- yes, I tried to force him to make another mistake on the braking and that's why I was in the middle of the track all time;
- no, I wasn't expecting him doing that corner after hitting the grass;

Was I too optimistic? It probably would be completely different story if I didn't hit that kerb in 1st Lesmo...

 

Yes, nothing that would warrant verbal abuse though. You were a bit too far back to challenge the corner and should have backed out. It was on the edge, so I can't really fault you for going for it.

 

If in doubt, pull out. That's what I think when I am close behind someone going into a corner.