Who's at Fault? - Discussing Racecraft and Incidents

How are you guys watching this video when it states "this video is unavailable" on my PC?

 

Same here as well. But it was available at the time the post was created.

 

Has nobody been crashed into in 2 months? lol

 

Means we reach our goal Make perfect drivers

 

I actually have an incident that I'd be very interested in to get some people's oppinion....but I'm lazy and DavinciResolve always let's my CPU run too hot, which cancels the rendering process...meh.

 

I use wondershare Filmora that allows u to render throuhg the GPU, in a few seconds its done. like a 20 minute race takes no more than about 3 minutes to render even with very good settings

 

So is this guy nuts or am i going insane?
To be fair it was a 40sa lobby, but i was bored of monza and spa and i've had good races in noob lobbies.
I'm in the bmw, to my eye he braked too late and understeered into me, i saw him coming and left him space, mistakes happen but then he intentionally rammed me.
Thing is he was adamant in the chat that I cut him up? saying how he made the apex, to my eyes he was a country mile from it.
So what say you, is this guy just another kid who cant handle being overtaken or should i rethink my life?

 

Dude, your all good.
Pretty much everything you described, is what to place, including the other drivers character.

 

100%, nothing more to say.

 

Difficult to say what happened without asking the guy. Could also be a classical example of wrong perception. He might've felt he did nothing wrong and thought you were the one hitting him, so he retaliated right away. Depends on whether he watched the replay after that or not. There's also people who always blame others, they're never at fault. Best thing is to move on as this kind of things happen all the time, nothing you can do about it.
It's a difficult move there anyway as you have to rely on the other hitting the apex. If you backed off and braked earlier he would've sailed past you opening the opportunity for a cut back.

 

Have to disagree.

The car on the inside, giving benefit of the doubt, understeered out of control into Graeme, or worst case, as demonstrated by his "driving" after the initial contact, intentionally hit Graeme.

There was a car width between the inside car and the track edge when he hit Graeme, not even close to the track edge, so plenty of room for him to make the corner.

 

Not sure what you're disagreeing with tbf. I'm not saying he didn't understeer into the BMW, I just gave an explanation why he could've decided to intentionally hit the BMW despite the fact he understeered into him a corner earlier. Happened to me too, someone hit me and I wondered 'what the hell?' After watching the replay it was clear that the other car held its line and it was me who steered into it. Wrong perception, the replay often clears the fog.
That's what I said earlier in another thread. You don't have to make a move as soon as you think there's an opportunity. The BMW could've avoided it, as soon as they braked the Lexus was already alongside and even sailing past, so if you still try going around the outside in that corner, which is btw one of the worst corners in corner history imo, you're asking for an incident. It always takes two to tango, it shows time and time again.

 

OK, I guess we would have to hear what the "other" guy said, to have a complete understanding.
Still not to sure about his "maturity" though, as demonstrated latter.

 

That's what i was thinking too but he told me watched the replay and still somehow felt it was my fault.
Agreed, in hindsight i should have got well out of the way and let him kill himself, just force of habit as i'm not used to low rated servers.

 

Well, if he watched the replay and still blamed you, then he's probably one of the very rare people who are infallible, I guess.

 

Aaaand that's where he went way wrong. There is never a reason to retaliate for an accident.

 

Yeah, I totally agree but many people feel like it gives them some kind of inner peace if they do.

 

This small contribution aims to help improve the gaming experience in multiplayer mode, bringing to the attention of the simracers some precautions, related more to etiquette than to a real sporting regulation, which can avoid (or reduce) accidents and controversies. It can also be a useful tool for race management to evaluate accidents in the best possible way.
https://trinacriasimracing.wordpress.com/overtaking-rules-and-etiquette-in-motorsport-and-simracing/

 

What would happen in real racing under these conditions?

That should apply to ACC.

jmo

 

The "passing on Straights" case from the link above, is something quite common in public servers and even is seen in private leagues.

I still can't grasp how someone consider a "defence move" squeeze a car that is already alongside.
In fact, when that happens and there's a contact, the car that used that "defence" still consider to have the right to do so and the other car is guilty of any contact.
But, then again, I also see cases where the car in front move left or right, not one but two, three, four times, hell, as much times needed to block the car behind.

Regarding dive bomb, recently I had a race at Kyalami with 3 cars fighting for position and a fourth, behind, 3 times dive bombed in T1 (or T2, depending of the track map) - the left hairpin after the starting line.
Have it being only once, I would simply think: bad luck, missed the braking point, however repeated the move two times more and, unfortunately, the third time put one of the three cars ahead out of track and out of race.