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Who's at Fault? - Discussing Racecraft and Incidents

Discussion in 'ACC General Discussions' started by m_box97, Jan 15, 2020.

  1. Vítor Sousa

    Vítor Sousa Alien

    And you kept your foot on the throttle and punt him off track. What do you want posting that here? For us to say the punt was his fault?

    If you felt he was slower you have to adjust. Not keep doing same lines and hope for car in front to vanish...
     
    Last edited: Jun 12, 2020
  2. Sofa

    Sofa Gamer

    Strange, the angle looks not normal, but anyway, you were slow going on to the racing line, the Nissan was pulling away and there was no chance you could catch it at the next corner.
     
  3. Thug

    Thug Hardcore Simmer

    Totally agree.
    If you look at it again, the 'following' (not passing) car is behind the Bentley and actually off the racing line itself, but does move over first.
    The Bentley was also wanting to move over to the racing line but couldn't as quickly due to a car being there, but then did when it was clear t do so.
    The following car should have anticipated and known that and not been so impatient.
    This shows inexperience of the following car.
    In a real race you have to drive safely, and this was not.
    I know what LATE4APEX means, but the following car did exactly the same, moved into the racing line (and possibly in front of another car itself).
     
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  4. moeppling

    moeppling Gamer

    What the hell dude? Didn't get to your coffee in time today? Well, if you see nothing weird with his steering input / line prior to the punt, then so be it.

    edit: as comparison the situation on lap prior: https://streamable.com/llogds
     
    Last edited: Jun 12, 2020
  5. Sofa

    Sofa Gamer

    What is your point? The Porsche may have gone wide a bit, but the line you were pushing still had a Porsche in it. You can't go through a car.
     
  6. Winston

    Winston Hardcore Simmer

    Yeah , agreed. The simple fact is you just ran into the car in front. Nothing more complicated than that.
     
  7. Vítor Sousa

    Vítor Sousa Alien

    Maybe too much coffee eh?
     
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  8. Jaye

    Jaye Alien

    Love how this thread shows how many people are completely wrong with their idea of racing and that SA system is way to lax or the CP servers should be limited to 95.

    Yes he was a bit wrong in that corner but you are behind and responsible for not touching him. He did his needed correction in order to stay on track and you didn't react. Just lift/brake and stay behind or lift a little bit and stay more left on exit, but this would have been also senseless because of next corner.

    What is really sad is that you've known he is struggling. Instead of losing two tenths you were hoping that he will leave the track completely and going full risk resulting in much higher time loss, damage and anotherones race destroyed.

    Next straight is one corner away, main straight is 20s away. When he was struggling so hard it should have been easy to get him with a clean corner exit in the next 30 seconds without any risk.
     
  9. Vítor Sousa

    Vítor Sousa Alien

    This. The worst part is as shown by the second video, he already knew the Porsche was struggling in that turn and could predicted that line. He just didn’t care and hope the punt would work
     
  10. David Danser

    David Danser Racer

    Ferrari 100%, not sure what he was trying there.

    The only way for you to not hit him was if he would go off track completely.
     
    Last edited: Jun 12, 2020
  11. mystek

    mystek Racer

    Show Ferrari's throttle and brake input please. It was definetily his fault but want to see he wanted to hit u and provide spin or what. It looks like, but not sure.
     
  12. Burnleyhome

    Burnleyhome Racer

    To make that pass, the Ferrari would have needed a tighter exit. It cannot be assumed that the lead car will notice that you are drifting on the exit onto the racing line.
    Ferrari 80/20 Porsche for me.
     
  13. TurboTomato

    TurboTomato Gamer

    100% Ferrari fault
     
  14. LATE4APEX

    LATE4APEX Alien

    Yep, "camera car" is better, even though it was going for a pass.

    There would have been an overtake, if the Bentley had been able to catch the oversteer enough, to not end up coming across on the camera car.

    If the Bentley did loose the back, then hit the brakes, who is at fault, then ?
    I wouldn't think that making an error, should be an out for a driver, but defiantly put it into the racing incident class though.

    I don't agree with,... "goes into the back of him", actually the contact was the side of the Bentley, which in it self, makes a statement.

    Anyway, I think I've tried to make my point enough for just about everybody here. :)
     
  15. Felge Schneider

    Felge Schneider Hardcore Simmer

    Not an actual incident but a very good explanation, of how punts can happen and the punting drivers may not be aware of their fault, from @Aristotelis himself.

     
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  16. GONKO

    GONKO Racer

    Are you in the Ferrari?
    Ferrari driver here is very very poor.
    Unable to pass cleanly and resorts to a gentle tap off the track for the Porsche in order to pass unfairly.
    Very poor.
     
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  17. Vítor Sousa

    Vítor Sousa Alien

    Going back to a video of someone who tried to overtake in Monza after hearing a warning of a slow car only to ram the car in front, here is an example of how to behave in situations like that.

    After the warning I left the draft to check the track in front of me and decided not to try and go for a move due to a car going slow on the right:

    https://streamable.com/xuansu
     
  18. Felge Schneider

    Felge Schneider Hardcore Simmer

    Nobody likes track awareness. You could atleast punt the porsche in the chicane ;)
     
  19. mitchgixer6

    mitchgixer6 Gamer

    100% your fault. It's your responsibility not to drive into the car in front no matter how much tryre wear/damage/wide lines are prevelant.
     
    donShere likes this.
  20. GONKO

    GONKO Racer

    It was an attempt at cheating by a gentle push to make the Porsche lose control.
     
    mitchgixer6 likes this.
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