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Generic Why selling unfinished product...(not a rant on devs)! General question/discussion!

Discussion in 'Console Lounge' started by iwanchek, Aug 25, 2016.

  1. iwanchek

    iwanchek Simracer

    Let me first say that I'm very exited about the game that will arrive tomorrow on my
    Adress, I see huge potential in this one. But...reading all the threads here about why is missing this why is missing that, here bug there bug......

    And final question is"Then why are they selling unfinished product to us"?!?

    I can remember the hype about project cars. It was unbelievable how they have hyped this tittle, reality strike back hard when everyone got there copies-game was more broken the Battlefield 4 on the very first release day, and the horror continues, 70€ gone out of the pocket, the mentioned tittle (pCars) stopped developing the game few months latter to work on a new tittle Project Cars 2, in the meanwhile, they run out of money (I think) then the Game Of The Year came (I really don't know who voted for this particular game to be GOTY they must be on drugs), which on the beginning was 48€ but now bit cheaper. So...game still is a huge mess, cars glued together, MO without any regulation, penalty system is...ohhh...don't force me to go that direction......MP full of dirty drivers, etc etc etc......

    Now, Asseto Corsa, released a game which is obviously not finished and polished few very important parts of the game is missing etc....

    Why?! Are we customers really so stupid that we'll buy every time broken and unfinished game?!? The day will come when we stop buying games on release days...then dear devs around the globe you'll be forced to deliver 98% finished product not 70%!




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  3. I totally agree! First the developers have promised all the content from the PC to consoles, but it sechas For sale separately. And it comes out very expensive.

    Secondly a lot of functions just simply not available in the version of the console.
    Such as camera setting, private lobby, leaderboard, telemetry.

    In the third, I repeat, this is a terrible graphics on the Xbox!

    It seems that the developers have spat in your face. I was looking forward to this game, I made friends buy it. And now, I am ashamed, seeing how the game turned out.

    I hope that soon all correct, but so far I feel sorry for the money and very disappointing!
     
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  4. iwanchek

    iwanchek Simracer

    I'm tired of such behavior bro tbh....


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  5. cobra188d

    cobra188d Gamer

    People rarely post good things, about anything, and AC is no different. Why not wait until tomorrow, play the game, then see how your experience is?
     
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  6. iwanchek

    iwanchek Simracer

    Bro, if anyone is saying that private lobbies are missing, but in layout as well and other few thing then they won't be tomorrow fixed don't upset yourself.

    Don't miss the point of my post here


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  7. kofotsjanne

    kofotsjanne Alien

    People are already playing the game.
     
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  8. Globespy

    Globespy Racer

    I've been anxiously awaiting this game release since the beginning of the year.
    I would firstly like to say that Pcars, despite being a mess at launch received intensive support and patches that were regularly released for almost the first year. We are now on patch v11 and for the most part, it's the game it should have been at launch. I'm part of multiple leagues on a weekly basis, and other than the odd disconnect/bug on a couple of tracks, it's fantastic racing.
    Given that AC is supposed to be the pinnacle of SIM realism, it's absolutely unfathomable that they would release a game with no private lobby support when they knew that the majority of people buying this game are the new emerging SIM fan console customers who regularly participate in organized league races?
    In what universe was it OK to just not bother allowing private lobbies for the numerous SIM racing leagues?
    The developer feedback has been atrociously arrogant, and whilst I understand their frustrations with being asked the same questions multiple times, you just can't talk to your paying customer like that. You don't exist without them, why that's so difficult to understand is beyond me.
    I'm canceling my pre order, as will thousands of others on league racing forums around the world. You wanted to bring the realism of your game to a very enthusiastic console audience, but sadly you seem to have only catered for the casual racer, most of whom fall into the "wreck everyone on the first few turns and then quit if they aren't in the lead" crew. Serious racers who have invested in wheel setups have always abhorred these types, who are a destructive element in this genre. But yet, Kunos seems to think that their game will be successful by catering for this audience, an audience who will bore quickly and go back to Forza.
    Seriously, what were you guys thinking?

    PS - fix your forum site. I'm a console player, I don't have or need a 'Steam' account, so stop pushing me to get something I don't use in order to be properly verified on the forums!
     
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  9. iwanchek

    iwanchek Simracer

    Nice and valid statement. Agree with you.


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  10. mannitom77

    mannitom77 Racer

    First of all, there isn't a one single game in the world without minor bugs here and there. That is one thing we customers have just to accept. Games in nowadays are so complex.
    Secondly, who are you or anybody else to deside when the product is unfinished if some feature is missing. If devs deside to launch the game without e.g. Private lobby's that doesn't mean it's unfinished just because someone want that feature.
     
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  11. Globespy

    Globespy Racer

    Thanks. I can only hope that they address these glaring issues quickly before their game suffers the same fate as Pcars - mass trade ins at game stores around the world and essentially killed before it had a chance. But I think to date they have demonstrated that this is likely what's going to happen.
    I'm sure they will make money, but if that was the only goal here, then they should remember they old saying about "fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice shame on me" and be prepared for an extremely critical and more discerning audience.
    There's obviously a growing market for console SIM racing, talk about shooting the 'golden egg laying goose " straight out of the gate!
    Amazing!
     
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  12. Globespy

    Globespy Racer

    I think you are missing the point here. There's a difference between casual controller using racer and what this game AC is really built for. If you understood that, then you would resonate more with the posters comment.
    I'm not saying the casual player with a controller can't be good, I know many who are. But SIM racing is heavily community based and negating to provide the ability to make a lobby private is a grotesque omission and Kunos damn well know this.
     
  13. iwanchek

    iwanchek Simracer

    With all due respect but when you accept such behavior-launching game without main features" then something ring is with you!

    Secondly, "who am I"? I'm a customer who pays money for their product and expect that in today word game have everything what we need and what's essential.

    If you deal with it that I spend money for unfinished product please be my guest me and others won't pay solid money for such products!


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  14. Globespy

    Globespy Racer

    One other thing. Why is there a thread in the console section about renting servers for 10% off? I'm thinking this must be an error, something just copied over from the PC thread?
    If it's not in error then why can't I view it?
    I'm actually not against the idea of renting a server for private league races, some feedback from Kunos on this would be welcomed.
     
  15. iwanchek

    iwanchek Simracer

    I've seen it too! We'll have to wait what's up with that


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  16. Stevie777

    Stevie777 Rookie

    I have a good advice for you: don't buy the game if you don't like it. Nobody forced you to buy it in the first place...

    Life is full of disappointments, get used to it.
     
  17. iwanchek

    iwanchek Simracer

    Let's be honest here, if they said it earlier that they wont be lobbies-no one would buy the game.

    Fact!


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    Last edited: Aug 25, 2016
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  18. TXC_IJOJOI

    TXC_IJOJOI Racer

    I think the mistake was, that things like that weren't communicated beforhand...

    Nobody knew about the Private Servers up until 2 days ago.
    Same goes for leaderboards.
     
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  19. iwanchek

    iwanchek Simracer

    That's my point. It's like with the pCars-big hype for a trashy game. I don't wanna say that Assetto is a trashy game-no. But few things they didn't tell us bcoz of the selling aspect.


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  20. eSEA One

    eSEA One Hardcore Simmer

    I just ask you one question, is any software finished?
     
  21. iwanchek

    iwanchek Simracer

    Finished in terms that they're on 100% a wee is NO! It's like you release an iPhone without message app. and y'all accept it as it seems or at least you approve it.


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