Would you like more Mod Tracks in AC, similar to Zandvoort? [Strawpoll]

The poll: http://www.strawpoll.me/10294615

Sorry if making a topic like this is inappropriate, in this instance mods please remove it.

During Zandvoort release there was lot of controversy, for and against. I'm just wondering where people stand now, and if majority still holds same opinion, today? I was positively surprised by Zandvoort. It's still Kunos quality visually, and the track surface I can't really complain about. I'm kind of used to it now, and drive it regularly. I was one in the "against" crowd, but now I've changed opinion and turned coat

Frankly, wouldn't mind other non-scanned mod tracks in AC, if they are similar quality. For example non-European tracks. Lot of interesting tracks, that are never going to happen as laser-scanned versions anyway. USA, Japanese, Aussie etc... Now, someone might say "We can just download the modtracks from RD, no need for this." But IMO there is upsides in mod track becoming Official content:

- It's on par visually with other Kunos content, also optimized to same level
- Every AC user has it, easier for hosting the track in MP servers
- Console users would get it too

Might add to this, laser-scanned tracks still hold "higher value" for me. But laser scanned non-European tracks are probably never gonna happen, so is it better to be without them totally?

 

Im not a Pro, but i say why NOT?
Better have 10 Non Lasescanned but with very good Quality than 2 Laserscanned...
I dont know how expensive Laserscanning is, but i think it would be as i sayed.
So thumbs up for non Laserscanned from me...

 

I think zandvoort was a good idea. Seems the car modders get all the love but the track modders get little to no recognition. Nothing against car modders at all obviously.

 

I say why not.

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If it's a chance to maybe get Bathurst, Suzuka or Laguna Seca...yes, please.

 

Laserscanning is great for "exact" realism, but that only really matters if you're trying to practice for a trackday or compare in-game lap times with RL ones. As long as the physics mesh is done properly - as many mod tracks are thanks to the help of @LilSki & @ir Sindaco et al - the driving experience is just as good.

Not all worthwhite tracks can even be scanned. A mod like Bridgehampton, for example, represents the absolute highest possible quality for that circuit given that it no longer exists.

Why not have more stuff like that as official content?

 

Well, I think it's better to have non-laserscanned tracks from outside Europe than no tracks from ouside europe. If they're made to Kunos' standars, why not?
Not to mention that Zandvoort was free. So if you give those tracks as Bonus content or together with a laserscanned track as part of a DLC, we have nothing to lose.

 

True, very nice quality track. And obviously cannot be scanned anymore, one example of what could be official. Also Black Cat County was received well afaik too, so wouldn't need to be even limited to real circuits. Also why not something like Luccaring? Not a real track, but a real place. AC could have the laser-scanned tracks stamped with "Laserscanned" text in the track selection menu, so they are still highlighted and make it clear to new drivers which are & which aren't.

 

I have been begging the devs to make Bridgehampton official since the day it was released; if the track is AAA quality and Marco can acquire a license, then sure, the more the merrier IMO.

 

A resounding yes. Zandvoort is a great track, well done, and seems like they payed a lot of attention to the track mesh which to me is the most important thing. So long as they are up to that level of quality and realism I say go for it!

 

This is why I vote no

https://www.assettocorsa.net/forum/index.php?threads/a-few-zandvoort-issues.28595/

This, and the fact that AC clearly states as a marketing and selling point that it has laser scanned tracks. Anything else would cause confusion and moaning as seen when Zand was released. I am all in for historical tracks, obviously non laserscanned, but not for contemporary tracks. I know that going to Japan, for example, or Australia is almost a no-go at the moment but hey, everything has a down side in life. You can't have it all. Plus, it may be a good occasion to push track owners to laser scan their own tracks, as Nords' do, and sell their data along their license. Nords' wasn't scanned by Kunos, and it's perfect nontheless, so.

 

Nice question, hope lots of people answers so we get an idea. Being a modder myself i am obviously biased, but here's
some thoughts: first thing with 3rd parties content is quality, and Kunos did a great job on the cars and Zandvoort to ensure it was not different from other contents. Unless you specifically knew how they were done, i'd say you'd have a hard time telling what was laser scanned and what not, and if Kunos car's in the pack were had accurate data and thus behave more lifelike. Also for tracks, besides laserscanning, there's many ways for a modder to get good reference...laserscanning as well.
Why cars gets in easier than tracks...it's maybe a production/licensing costs matter (but i guess a top quality car mod takes away as many hours as a top quality track?), or maybe they just know people will buy a 3rd parties car more confidently than a 3rd parties track: i think only Kunos could tell us for sure. I think we have more tracks than cars in game anyway, don't we? Most probably, it's simply because there are more car mods than track mods that are both up to par with Kunos standards and possibly attracting for most of us.
By the way, added to Zandvoort we recently had another non scanned track, and a fantasy one. That might mean something.
Besides, there's a lot of places to be re-done that could be great as @aphigod says, and that would not have licensing "issues" as there's no trademark on public roads and many other places: i.e. places that are not raced anymore, also we get very little hillclimb/fantasy official content. Not laserscanned (again...for myself, i am dealing with points clouds, photogramnmetry and lidar data quite frequently, guess i am not alone) but hey, soon people will be playing AC on consoles, that's a hugely vast new audience and who knows, more 3rd parties tracks might get ingame.
Let's see what others vote

 

Also true. Every new laser scanned track added is a huge deal, nothing compares. Also think that Zandvoort etc. should be clearly stated in-game not being laser scanned, even now. So there isn't impression or chance of any new (console) players being misled or confused about it. But still, for the reasons stated, I'm supporting more mod tracks being added, especially tracks Kunos will never be able to laser-scan, for reason or another. I don't know if Zandvoort was a track like this, but there is certainly tracks that are out of reach.

 

Its pretty hard decision, but I have to say NO. I remember that one of the features of AC that convinced me was their detailed and laser scanned tracks. I was really hyped and fascinated about it. And if I remember when the Scanned Nordschleife was released, it felt so amazing! If I want more tracks I can go to the mod section. Yeah not every track is high quality, but there are a lot of amazing tracks. Rolf said, it would be the chance to get Bathurst, but what I really want is laserscanned detailed Bathurst. I already have a Bathurst mod in pretty good quality.
So yes on the one hand we need more tracks, but on the other hand ACs success is based on its high quality and precision and they should never lose this focus in my opinion.

 

I vote no for the reasons others mentioned above.

 

I would say yes if the visuals are on par with the laserscanned circuits, the overall location and geo data is fairly accurately modelled and the physics mesh is about on par with Black Cat County. The thing with laserscanned tracks isn't just the physics mesh but also that they're close to 100% accurate visually to the real deal, with all the distances and proportions proper. If that's done right I personally don't mind if some more tracks get included that aren't laserscanned since AC needs more official tracks and with laserscanned tracks only that'll take years. I don't mind it being part of paid content either although the price point/value has to be right. More money from that could also pay for more laserscans in the end.

 

I vote no. As someone who knows Laguna seca and Sonoma (Infineon raceway) very well in real life, all the sim versions just don't feel right at all. Both tracks are bad in project cars, and Laguna seca is horrible in race room. Laser scanning a track is just as important as getting the cars simulated as close to real life as possible. Sure most have never driven all the cars in real life, but we all love hearing an owner of the real version saying the car feels uncanny in AC.

Also worth noting that track surface data is just as important as getting the scale of the track right. Real world tracks have very specific bumps and dips that totally affect how you drive there. These are details you can't get right without scanned data.

With that said, I like fictional tracks and do download fan made tracks and enjoy them for what they are. But laser scanned tracks are a huge part of why I love AC and the official content. My bucket list is to drive at Spa and the Nurburgring in real life someday and knowing the data is accurate in AC makes it that much better.

 

I can't believe there isn't a decent Seca Laguna mod

 

I voted yes, because it increases the chance of getting a few more historical tracks for the historic F1-cars

 

It's nice to "know" that a track is accurate when based on LS data but, if it's matter of having a high quality non-LS track vs. no track at all, then I'm happy to have a non-LS version. Without having some kind of LS track depository to draw from, it's just not realistic to expect that all tracks can be LS from small studios.

Why not create a resource cooperative for Sim-developers based in different countries to trade local LS data for tracks located in other regions?