Would you prefer AC2 or AC1 Rolling updates? Re. Stefano Casillo interview

I'm still wondering how the hell he even managed to achieve that

I, too, am for a follow up title, prefereably by the name of Assetto Corsa Evoluzione, rather than continued rolling updates. As others have previously explained, and as Stefano talked about in past, the current engine has its limits, and a complete overhaul (or a new engine for that matter) would only be feasible with a new game. Including early access, Assetto Corsa will be four years old this month, and I'd say that supporting a game fo four years is enough, and that a clean cut and a new release would be the way to go by now, as there are new titles left and right sporting features that the current engine simply is not capable of, and you need to be able to keep up with the pack or you end like rF2.

I'd even be willing to crowdfund a new iteration of Assetto Corsa. I'm not usually a fried of crowdfunding, but I pledged to the Reiza campain on Indigogo last year because I trusted them to deliver. As I also trust Kunos seeing their track record, I#d have no qualm about that.

 

I would prefer Kunos making more stuff, in way they see fit.. VS. them stopping making stuff because it's not profitable

We haven't invested into AC 5 years of our lives like them, only 20€ into base game and some coffee money to DLC packs. Compare to NHL, Fifa, Madden, Call of Dudi, Battlefailed, Codepasters F1, Project Cash 1-2, Assassin's Creed, Need For Speed (again new NFS this year, after the poor 2016 game).. even Reiza with Automobilista is moving to next title in 2018 most likely, AMS is closing in development in v. 1.5, released in 2016 (while it's "just" upgrade of GSCE but still)

Maybe one day, AC2 descends from the sky with holy light, silencing the cries of simracers about rain and night and leaving them in humble awe. Until 1 week later they figure something new to whine for next 5 years. Looking forward to that 1 week

 

Imagine if AC2 is already done and they're gonna surprise us with this massive surprise

 

With a company like Digital Bros as your parent I am sure financing will not be an issue. I'm sure Lord Kunos has been playing about with ideas since about 2014, 2015 at the latest. Hey ho, it matters little I will only be moving on in another 2-3 years AC has everything I need and is missing very little that I see as necessary. Horses for course and all that brain fodder rubbish.

 

Kunos are a successful company I really don't see why crowdfunding would be necessary...

Hopefully the next product will be as mod friendly as AC. In fact thinking about it being able to port mods easilly between the two would be amazing.

 

This is something we modders sorta expect too... that physic engine Stefano cooked up over the years will not go into the bin, it will move onto the new sim. Graphics is a different deal, but here keeping the workload manageable will have priority, meaning tracks and cars will not need stuff like different shaders per weather or daytime. With their small team they just can't redo all hundreds of cars and all the tracks. And a new graphics engine could introduce features that would need no changes to the cars (things like self reflection and multiple light sources with corresponding shadows)

 

What I hate about these scenarios (felt the same with RF2 for me) - by the time a game has matured, received content and mods and all the problems are polished we're moving to a new title. Then again the circle starts.

 

Well, I think you can be sure that Stefano will be involved.

Most likely, yes. They were already involved in porting AC to console and it would be surprising if AC2 didn't target consoles as well, although it might be that the release date is not the same on PC and consoles.
Also not sure if early access on consoles is possible.

 

Rain wouldnt need a new engine. Night do though because of the graphics engine only supports one light source.

answer to op: i have already bought a ticket to the hypetrain for AC2. Im here at the station and waiting for it to take off. I think it will be a brutal ride, specially if they dont do it early access this time.

 

tl;dr for now but

I feel like this is a false god, there cannot be a 'complete' sim and as such you can't really get closer to it, you can only change the things people complain about.


Anyway personally I'm not getting on the AC2 hypetrain until I replace my pc, this one's bare minimum to play AC1.

 

This is a factor Stefano has mentioned in the past. Development of AC is limited by the need to ensure it still runs on minimum spec PCs. AC2 can take advantage of today's (or tomorrow's) PCs. I vote for AC2.

 

scenario a: nothing from ac1 works in ac2 (nothing from kunos, no mod) - i will play both games.
scenario b: some things from ac1 could be used in ac2 - i will play both games but after somet time ac1 will get dusty.

 

Cannot be sure now but Race07 sucked nearly £200 (AC is far superior and has cost me less than £100) it was great fun but not as good as GTR imho. I hope AC2 is better than AC, but I am unsure how you make it better... night/rain and some cool server and driver swap could be fun, but I am interested in what 'New Features' could be added that add to the overall experience. Then again I like the surprise you get from finding something you never knew you wanted.

 

Loose surface support would be exciting.

 

Wishlist inbound:
They could add more car mechanic simulation - drivetrain flex, engine stall, engine momentum, engine fluids, deeper brake temp simulation, visible tire flex; more setup options like steering lock and caster; atmospheric stuff like sparks, pebbles, "realroad"/"live track" with rubber tracks that are asymmetric like the ones in iRacing (darker on the outside), dynamic time/weather, Cars and windscreen that get dirty over time; better sound engine; Ranked servers / global leaderboards / online rating system, timed races in single player, mandatory pitstops, ability to disable refuelling or tyre swaps, AI setups; different surfaces like dirt, gravel, snow,... I'm just rattling off stuff that I like in other sims

 

I'm hoping for it, and it's not that unreasonable either - considering Gran Turismo, Forza, Project CARS do the same pretty much - but I feel like we won't see all the existing content in a potential AC2 because even now there's a quality difference between the oldest and latest content (so the oldest cars would have to be reworked), with a new graphics engine all the content likely has to be refactored anyway and probably in terms of physics they'll have to look over all of them again as well (if they add rain, loose surface, etc.). I suppose the team is just not big enough to port everything over, at least at release. They could do Early Access again perhaps.

Well... a new graphics engine, dynamic weather, more polished experience and more functionality for racing (flag rules, safety car, etc.) - there's lots that they could add.

 

I don't know how feasible it is, but I'd rather have AC1's core rebuilt in a few phases than an AC2 release. DLC packs along the way to support it in my opinion could bring in enough money and keep the entire team working on the complete product. If this causes some mod content not to work I'm sure the best works will be updated (by someone else) to work properly again.

 

I believe it will take quite awhile... PC user upgrade reversed.

Way back the most popular graphic card was the 8800GT, 2 years ago the most popular graphic card was the 970 & right now it's the 1060.

Increasing the graphic requirement is a double edge sword, unless they create something that is so taxing that it may be relevant for benchmark use, if the rest is very well optimized.

 

Yes Plenty of Potential.

A more atmospheric experience. Its Less the graphics that feel Dated but the presentation of Most Sims. Would ne nice to feel more like a racedriver than a Gamer.
More real Series or their Cars, which Supports the Former.

A ai better than what you Are Used to from racinggames. As important as the physics for offlineplay. Everyone has good graphics. Ai? Maybe rfactor2. See pcars2 how you Ruin everything Besides the mp with a Bad ai.

A career. A Real career. Or at least a Decent Championship mode.

And multiclass endurance races with appropiate grids. like 80+ Cars on the nordschleife.
Otherwise i dont Know why i Need Rain And Night and all the typical endurance Tracks and Cars anyway. Useless.

IRacing like Multiplayer.

OoOr maybe Something Less Sandboxy and more focused.

 

AC 2 Evoluzione with mod support, with AC1 refined/revamped/improved physics , running on vulkan low level using the CPU cores to the bones, night, rain and proper loose surface physics too
keeping LS tech for new tracks and porting over ac1 content, all that on a crazy good gfx engine.

for 2019, i can dream ok
bring it on, pc2 will get boring soon lol