Assetto Corsa Competizione - 2020 Generic discussion

SRO could be taking over the Australian GT championship.
Kunos has some more work to do.

 

I wonder if the 2020 update will improve the NSX Evo BOP on the non ICGT tracks?

 

I'd ask the devs for a favor.
There is a discussion ongoing (Youtube) about the tire simulation in ACC. It's the same guy who is bashing Kunos for many years now.
Here my question: Are the tire walls a part of the tire simulation in ACC? If yes (what I think) to what percentage the tire wall simulation is needed for the simulation of the whole tire?

It would be awesome if any developer can answer

Thanks in advance.
After_Midnight

 

Could you please give me the link of that discussion.
There are couple of things i find very odd as well.This is why i'm looking forward to new tyres and physics update.

 

It's the German Youtube Channel of Mabix and the discussion is going on in the comments in his last videos about Automobilista 2. The user you should looking for is Leynad Jee.

 

Leynad....lol...that guy was an idi*t back in the AC days, doubt much has changed.

 

It hasn't

 

oh its german lol , i will have to use translator.

 

Not a dev, but read the discussion on YouTube (although I usually ignore that person for obvious reasons ).
I don't know for shure if the tire wall is simulated, but since tire flex is a thing, it should be. For a real tire the characteristics of the side wall indeed are a quite important part of the overall behaviour.

What bothers me most about his statements is the fact that he thinks a physical model is always superior to an empiric model. Simulation will always be a simplification of reality. Just because a model is more complex doesn't make it more accurate. Often it is quite the oposite. A well done empiric model needs more input data from the real world, scince they are availlable for sim racing, at least in the case of ACC, it is better suited to that use case in my opinion. Physical models should be used in development phases, where the real product doesn't exist yet, afterwards it is usually wasted computational power (of course exceptions exist). But I strongly believe, until proven otherwise, that the empiric model of ACC based on real world data from Pirelli will be a more accurate representation of those tires than a physical model of 'some' tire.

Also the statement that tires only are capable of longitudinal or lateral forces but can't do both at the same time is completely false of course, as you tried to state, but I guess he'll never learn... There are real world GT3 drivers who state that trailbraking is indeed needed in GT3 machinery. But I guess they are all doing it wrong. He is right about not doing this in your every day street car, but that is a whole different story.

 

As I can see you get triggered as well by totaly false comments
But like you said he'll never learn it to take a discussion in a constructive way where both sides are able to learn from.

 

Absolutely
I mean everyone can have their opinion and their favourite sim, no problem with that. But there is no need to bash others for thinking otherwise. I'm pretty shure the vast majority of us has never driven a real car at its proper limit, let alone a race car. So who are we to judge what is more realistic. If you want pure realism, do the real thing, otherwise enjoy one or more of the great simulations available today. And let others enjoy their choices.

 

Nothing more to add

 

German ADAC GT Masters will be next year under SRO called International German GT Championship, right? So even more potential new tracks and series for Kunos to build ))

 

Where did you get this information?

 

According to https://www.adac-gt-masters.de/uk/a...-and-finishes-at-hockenheim-in-october-266066 it reads like it's "just" a change in how the championship/title is called, being an "official" DMSB championship from the next year on.

 

Don't waste your time on Leynad, I mean it.

 

He appears to be one of those guys who spend a whole party talking about which wine is the best and how it is supposed to be poured, while everyone else is simply enjoying themselves instead of listening to that guy's gibberish.

I don't give a wet fart about whether he approves ACC's tire model or not, I'll just keep on enjoying the games I like.

 

I would think there must be some side wall tire simulation/modeling, as we can lose pressure if hitting a curb just the right/wrong way with low tire pressures.

I have,... .

 

8.7GB download just coming through. Is this one of the previous hot fixes? Not played in several months.

 

I think so

This event can also pure scripted, I think.
But it's not what I believe.