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Progressive system penalty

Discussion in 'Chit Chat Room' started by Darcy Callai Junior, Dec 29, 2014.

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  1. Rui Santos

    Rui Santos Hardcore Simmer

    Slow down system ONLY of course it's not the solution... we need proper racing rules and immersion remember Kunos? ;)

    I fully agree with you Christopher, what can change is the amount of warnings until drivethrough/stop&go

    Qualifying or practice invalidated lap!

    Easy ;)
     
    Rui Santos, Dec 30, 2014
    #81
  2. Rui Santos

    Rui Santos Hardcore Simmer

    OR forcing people driving correctly don't you think? That's why i say it could be changeable, depends on what kind of realism you're looking for ;)
     
    Rui Santos, Dec 30, 2014
    #82
  3. Rui Santos

    Rui Santos Hardcore Simmer


    Jesus Christ, help us! :D
     
    Rui Santos, Dec 30, 2014
    #83
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  4. Michael Hornbuckle

    Michael Hornbuckle Alien

    3 cuts allowed in 5 laps? o_O
    Why even bother with a penalty system?
     
    Michael Hornbuckle, Dec 30, 2014
    #84
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  5. Epocx

    Epocx Alien

    The slow down when you want it in x amout of time or go to visit pits sounds really the best to me.

    I try to think how this can be abused online, which is the biggest problem for penalties today. But i think its pretty solid. Unless you can abuse this before a shikane or a slow part of the track anyways. Like cut the shikane at Nuerburgring GP and slow down for the bend onto the main straight. At which time you might loose the penalty from the natural slow down

    Any ideas how to solve that?

    Tweet that here: https://twitter.com/KunosStefano/status/549477189071011840
    LOL
     
    Epocx, Dec 30, 2014
    #85
  6. Champion Hero

    Champion Hero Simracer

    I concur.
    3 cuts + Drive through
    3 cuts again + Stop & Go
    3 again + Disqo-time.

    That's more than enough chances to tidy your race up. There're plenty of ways to tweak that, but the warnings need to stick for the duration, just like a yellow card does in a football match. Too many warnings, and you're off.
     
    Champion Hero, Dec 30, 2014
    #86
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  7. Requiem84

    Requiem84 Simracer

    Just copy iRacing penalty system 1 inc for off track, 2 inc for spin, 4 inc for car contact.

    Then let server admins set at which threshold stop and go, time penalty or other punishment is applied. Simple, elegant, flexible and easy to implement.

    Also possible:
    A1 inc for off track
    B2 inc's for spin
    C4 inc's for hard car contact.

    Server admin can then set which penalties to take into account: ie stop and go only for more than 15 A inc's, no penalty for B or C inc's.
     
    Requiem84, Dec 30, 2014
    #87
  8. Niki Đaković

    Niki Đaković Hardcore Simmer

    24h race, 1 cut, ban from ac forums, and steam licence taken away, no sorry's no pardons. ;)
     
    Niki Đaković, Dec 30, 2014
    #88
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  9. Michael Hornbuckle

    Michael Hornbuckle Alien

    Michael Hornbuckle, Dec 30, 2014
    #89
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  10. cooknn

    cooknn Alien

    This is exciting news. If we can make multiplayer fun again it will take AC to an entirely new level for me.
     
    cooknn, Dec 30, 2014
    #90
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  11. Rui Santos

    Rui Santos Hardcore Simmer

    Spins shouldn't be issued with a penalty, it happens, we don't need that, also for contact, leagues can handle this if you protest ;)
     
    Rui Santos, Dec 30, 2014
    #91
  12. Rui Santos

    Rui Santos Hardcore Simmer

    No different penalties Stefano, only change is in qualifying or practice sessions, one cut=invalid lap...

    Also Stefano wrote this:

    Stefano Casillo ‏@KunosStefano 29 de dez
    @KjellKoden i still have a problem with warning guys.It's like a start a race knowing I am allowed to cut 2 times without consequences.

    No, what you know is that you CAN'T cut in a race, that will force people drive correctly, if you cut those 2 times you know you're gonna lose some good amount of time, your brain will know it's only in emergency situations and you can't just waste those warnings in stupid moves...
     
    Last edited: Dec 30, 2014
    Rui Santos, Dec 30, 2014
    #92
  13. Christopher Low

    Christopher Low Alien

    My "three cuts and a Stop/Go penalty" comment was just an example. We need to refine a system like this for different race lengths. However, I stand by my comment that innocent drivers should not be punished. I have always stated that I would prefer to see a cutter win a race than see innocent drivers given penalties for avoiding idiots, or making slight mistakes. Persistent cutters can be banned with proper server admin controls, so it isn't even an issue.
     
    Christopher Low, Dec 30, 2014
    #93
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  14. Rui Santos

    Rui Santos Hardcore Simmer

    Precisely, rules are needed to avoid idiots or drive like an idiot, if those idiots don't respect blue flag for example they'll be punished, if overtake during yellow flag they're punished, exceed pit limit speed they're punished, drive wrong way they're disqualified, reverse on pits they're disqualified, etçª, this is just to stop people behave like... idiots :cool: so that good drivers can race normally! And racing rules are universal so everybody can learn them easy with a basic tutorial or something... anyway we should have the possibility to turn them off...
     
    Last edited: Dec 30, 2014
    Rui Santos, Dec 30, 2014
    #94
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  15. Epocx

    Epocx Alien

    I totally agree.
    We need something easy and not abusable for comparing times also. Not just for friendly races.

    And not something where you can cut 2 times and get away with it, that can mean winning or losing a race, so please...
     
    Epocx, Dec 30, 2014
    #95
  16. Rui Santos

    Rui Santos Hardcore Simmer

    Rui Santos, Dec 30, 2014
    #96
  17. Epocx

    Epocx Alien

    Epocx, Dec 30, 2014
    #97
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  18. Michael Hornbuckle

    Michael Hornbuckle Alien

    @Rui Santos The man has an office at a damn track; something tells me he knows real world flag rules. SMH
     
    Michael Hornbuckle, Dec 30, 2014
    #98
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  19. Rui Santos

    Rui Santos Hardcore Simmer

    Well, i think i don't need to answer you ;)
     
    Rui Santos, Dec 30, 2014
    #99
  20. Rui Santos

    Rui Santos Hardcore Simmer

    I understand that Michael, but there are many people that do simracing for years and don't know the rules, sometimes looking at them you have ideas ;)
     
    Rui Santos, Dec 30, 2014
    #100
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