Minorating.com (drivers thread)

Very good, ty

 

A point-soup

 

I just deployed the Plugin version 2.3: http://www.minorating.com/ServerAdmin#Download

It contains the preparations needed for a few things around the detection of:

- cutting
- pit exit line crossing
- outlap detection

All of this is handcrafted per track, so we'll need some time until we see a reasonable coverage. Currently Spa and Monza have lines, but it isn't "sharp" yet.
My plan is:

1. Make sure the new plugin works as usual (you can slowly start to test this now)
2. Enable debug information to you regulars, so you can offensively test the cuts and crossings without penalties
3. I hope you guys give me a list of cuttable corners, ordered by severity
4. Creation of the necessary data to increase coverage

In the end we'll see how satisified we are and how good my ideas to protect false positive cuts work out. If it's ok, MR will start to assign CP for cuts and all the other stuff I've unlocked with this plugin.
This is backend work only, so I can put one after another without plugin change.

So please, start listing relevant corners (regarding cuts) with a 1-10 rating. Secondary: which pit exit lines are likely to be ignored which then cause accidents?

 

Kind of. For sure there is no easy solution* (otherwise I'd not need to do anything here).
This is a good example where I don't want to put too much information out there, as any exception has the potential to be exploited, while gathering the information by try+error isn't going to end very nice.

I can tell that I have and will spent lots of effort on being defensive and prevent false positives. Cutters worked very well here, and with MR I have one or two more datapoints to regard.

*actually I have one, but not for MR.

Already covered. Also one of the best possible tracks to test the system.

No, none should be ignored. I'm german, you remember? You will receive CP even if you are alone on the server, but much more if your crossing is followed by an accident.
Just asking for a priority, there are lots of tracks and I can only do one after the other.

German. No, unless you could fill out the Boxenstoppausgangslinienüberschreitungsausnahmeformular correctly.

 

Actually this effort tries two different things. For sure it's a very good source for more CP, if done right. You won't get a top score by accident here, I can promise.
There is a chance that it really workes out well, because the penatly for a cut is so much more than in vanilla ac. You can't just enter the next lap and everthing is forgotten. So if the implementation is fine people will learn fast and MR can actually replace the hated AC penalty system. Nothing I can promise, but the chance is there.

 

nono, the servers need the neeed plugin (2.3.1) once. MR won't have full functionality now, but the rest will be added to the backend later.

 

ah damn, we'll need another hotfix -.- Admins, please don't update to 2.3.1, it won't be the last try -.-
(shouldn't hurt to use it if you already did so)

 

Luckily I can't see any server running 2.3 yet, so I could reject the new version. I have two different sets of problems, one is that my cutting theory doesn't work out. This isn't happening a lot to me, so I'm in a mental crisis now
Will see today if I can rescue the idea, and decide about it in the evening.

In the first stage we'll only notify interested people via /mr incidentinfo or something similar, without ever putting CP.
Once you give me green light, MR will give both CP and proper message. I also think of a ramp-up per driver, so you get three warnings (one time per driver) before the system activates.

Message shouldn't be a problem as we really know what we detected here.

I never used PLP, but I think I can tell "no". Especially because the pit exit line usually isn't part of optimization like the track boundaries. Just don't drive over them and you are fine.