Doubt brake temperature

I have doubts about which are the cars that have brake heating, I think that since version 1.7 we have not received updates in this regard. Is it working on the heating of brakes in all vehicles? Will we have more vehicles with this characteristic in the new update?

Thank you

 

Not all cars have brake temperature simulation, no. You can check with enabled dev apps in the Telemetry app, there's a brake disk temp preset. Some mod apps read that out too I believe.

 

It is the one thing I probably wait for the most ! To me it looks like that this comes very late in the sim development.

 

Sure we have. e.g. Cobra and F40 do now have brake temp simulation, very pronounced on both as well. Especially the Cobra can be more twitchy at the corner entry due to brake fading.

Also a couple of Porsche (917K, 917/30, 908, 935, 911 3.0 RSR) and iirc a couple of other classics.
There aren't really that many modern race cars that feature brake temp simulation, but on those it's not that big of a deal anyway.

 

We have a whole bunch of road cars where brake temps is a consideration. It also change the braking characteristics of certain cars, like the F40 that cools the brakes a lot on every straight, and the initial brake bite feels weak as a consequence. Other cars would have massive fading if they had brake temp simulation.

 

Pretty sure that Stefano either stated or alluded to the inclusion of brake temps/fade/wear was more for the modders than anything else.

 

Yeah. Still, I'd love to have it on the cars where it makes a difference. The big, fast SUVs and road cars can't take track abuse for any extended period of time, for instance.

 

If you think the Cobra is bad, start a hotlap session (so you start before the last turn) with the F40 S3 at Mugello and watch how T1 goes...

 

What ?! That would be a terribly sad new ! Braking dynamics are very part from racing, whatever the car, more or less. Brake temps/fade/wear has to be in the sim. It's not a modders' thing. I'd be hugely disappointed if it's not officially in the game eventually.

 

It is officially in the game, a lot of the older cars have working brake temps.

 

Have to admit a bit disappointing if this is the case. I was thinking after Tyre 10 on all cars, they switch focus to Brake temps (as I don't feel new Tyre models are needed for AC1)

 

I guess Stefano would say: what else more do you want from a 40$ software???
While I agree that the brake temps play a big factor in a racing simulation, I remember that when I was doing league racing in rfactor 1, I was concerned about the brake temps nonetheless than the tyre temps and wear, because they were also overheating if not set correctly and so on, but if this is not the case with AC 1, then I can live with that...
At least we have a simulation with better handling than others, and I think it's also not fair to ask too much from a game for such a low price.

I mean its not even commercial profitable, why would they spend hours on doing something for a game which is already 3 years old? Better save it for the next title and make and sell it as a new feature, and the work will not be spent for free...

 

Or if you don't want a massive telemetry app open whilst racing you can try the Sidekick app - the section of the display normally dedicated to tyre psi / wear / temperature switches to showing brake temps during braking. This will tell you instantly if a car has simulated temps as soon as you brake for the first time

 

Anyone able to elaborate the current brake temps, still haven't noticed fading brakes so far.. This is not implemented?

I wanna recreate my Nordschleife Aremberg PTSD

 

935 Moby Dick at Monza, have 'fun'.

 

I didn't think we had brake fade due to overheating or wear. I though we just had less efficient brakes till they heat up.

 

As I said, some mod apps have it. No intention of using the Sidekick app so I didn't mention anything specifically.

 

Arent they also less efficient if they overheat? I dont think there if fade from wear of pads/discs but likely there is an optimum window for temps and above or below will give less brake performance. I cant say I have really noticed it but some cars I needed to adjust bias as the brakes gain temps, I haven't really noticed them get overheated and lose anything plus its mostly just the older race cars with brake temps atm. Not sure if too many street cars have had it added yet.

 

That would be fade wouldn't it? No I don't think that's modelled or you'd be feeling it in the road cars after a few minutes of heavy use.

I think it's a "be careful what you ask for" situation. I suspect brake fade would severely limit the road cars performance in AC and maybe make them less fun for many. I imagine that's why it's not included so far. Brake performance is already beefed up a bit over real iirc, maybe that was just the historic cars though.

 

In my opinion the whole brake temp implementation is quite annoying (on some cars) since it's just partially done and we don't have brake ducts or other cooling options. Basically they implemented the real life problems but not the tools they use to solve those problems. With modern brakes the temps haven't been a "problem" for a while now. It's quite automatic process of opening the ducts more for heavy braking tracks. It's more about WHERE to direct the heat. Do we heat up the rims to rise tyre temps? Heat transfer from brakes to tyres we don't have at all. Now for the cars that hit the optimum range of cooling by default, the driving experience didn't change at all.