Enhanced understeer

I've searched the forums but can't seem to find an answer. What is the new "Enhanced Understeer Effect" option that can be seen in the controller settings section (in-game)?

 

You get a very obvious drop in ffb force when you are under steering to know you are steering too hard, nice feature and should satisfy those who were complaining throughout 1.2 about ffb being worse

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@ears1991: I gave it a go but because I was testing quite possibly I was not "at the limit" and didn't notice anything. I'll turn it back on and do some real laps

 

Maybe varies from car to car but when I tried it in laferrari or 458 it was very communicative, still I disabled it as it feels a bit like cheating and the tyre sound (also tweaked to be less cheating) gives plenty of info

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Does anyone else like/use this "enhanced under steer effect" feature?

This enhanced under steer effect only seems to work with cars that have the new tyre model, which I don't think all of assetto corsas official cars have? Either way, I'm running this checked, and it's awesome! A big change as this understeer effect wasn't evident in quite a lot of cars pre 1.3.

 

Love it!

 

I kinda enjoyed 1.2 much more then 1.3 FFB wise. I read somewhere that setting 20 slip-effect and enhanced understeer helps and is kinda better.
Still it doesn't feels as exciting to drive the GT's somehow.

 

Exactly the opposite. Prior to 1.3 update driving in AC seemed boring to me and right now I really enjoy it - the cars finally feel alive and communicative , but I wasn't using any additional FFB effects and I'm not using the enhanced understeer.

 

I'd like it, but if it wasn't anything like as strong - if I enable it then my non-understeering FF load goes up too much.

 

Holy shiz. Let me tell you. Yesterday I was driving my E30 to work. It was raining. I came upon the corner I can usually take a bit hard. I went into it and it under steered and the wheel got lighter. I said to myself, "WTF? Why have I not felt this in AC?!!?!?! Oh yes, they recently came out with the 'Enhanced Under steer Effect.' I must try that!"

So I did, and it was fantastic. As others have mentioned it is a bit too much force loss. If it could be adjusted by the user that would be great. I would reduce it by 50%. I believe this is part of the problem I have had when drifting. When I tried to drift I had to fight the wheel to turn into the direction of travel which should not be the case at all. Front wheels should automatically align in direction of travel.

But again, love it!

But, question. WTH is it called "Enhanced"?!?! I don't feel the wheel get ANY LIGHTER in an under steer condition without it enabled. Shouldn't we be getting that feeling without it enabled if it is an "Enhanced" option?

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I tried it and loved it first. Feeling under steer through the wheel at last like I used to in GTR 2 was quit enjoyable.
Then I realized I lost all information on weight transfer and grip. I cursed update 1.3 for that. Turning off that feature again brought back what I call now the most informative FFB in sim racing.
I would like a bit of under steer weight loss added to that though. Would be nice. But for now I'd rather go without.

 

Yup. I think it feels great and something you get in real life that you normally don't get in a sim. Not sure why people think it's cheating if you get that feedback in a real car.

 

It's mostly a matter of pneumatic trail (which drops as you go to understeer - actual strength of effect depends on its magnitude vs. mechanical trail) but a little bit loss of grip. I remember feeling it strongly in previous versions of AC but the cars all oversteer so much now that I don't really get into understeer situations. Now that I'm looking for it though, it's definitely gone... strange.

 

Try the Lotus Elise. It used to be an oversteer pig. Now it's like the journalists described it. You have to flick it to provoke oversteer at corner entry. No natural leaning to the apex behavior like in previous versions. I had a very hard time to relearn my precious Elise post 1.3.

 

As it was mentioned, a slider would be nice. I'd go for 50% also.

 

You refer to that under steer thingy?

 

Can´t say I liked it. Had a short go only with this one in the GT86, but it didn´t seem very realistic to me. On the other hand, I rarely get real understeering, when I drive in real life (Mostly do Motorcycles, so that´s not for the worst...)

 

Since the enhanced understeer effect came out, I've used it since. Love it. Maybe not the most perfect in some cars, but now I'm finding the bite much better and have improved my laptimes by about a second on average.
A slider for this would be very nice, especially for newer cars. In some cars, even with the option I still feel it's not enough (but only some older cars). Seems like a rework of the global FFB is in order to remedy this, to make it more authentic to each car. It's nice having the option, but it's better when the option enhances each car individually, as to match the dramatic-ness of some cars, while others not.

 

I love these options. We don't have perfect FFB wheels and no game/sim has even near perfect physics and FFB so we need to be able to customize these feelings in my opinion unlike we're able to do on some other games (ahem, RF2).

 

Yes, customization is key to good Sim-design IMO. KS has done a good job satisfying most people with FFB IMO, and that's no small task.

The additional FFB options available with something like SC4 is great to have too; the added adjust-ability in some titles would amaze most people. Of course, the flip-side of that is that it can also confuse the uninitiated into a quivering glob of goo; refer to Pcars FFB settings as an example.