FFB clipping early!

Many of the cars have a problem that FFB feels really light and increasing overall gain is not an option because of imminent clipping issue.
Using dampening from drivers/ingame numbs the fine details in FFB, so thats out of the question for extra wheel weight.

What is the particular reason that the FFB clips so early in relation to the FFB overall strenght?

Is there going to be more indepth FFB settings within the controller.ini files that would for example effect the steering torque output (min and max values).

 

Jeez I just want default wheel specific FFB setting...Like if you have G27 your FFB will be so on and so forth for each car appropriate FFB...Different setting for different wheels, would make like easy...Otherwise I don't know...It's annoying that you have to adjust every single setting in game to make it feel right for you...I just want it to feel real.

 

Do you mean car specific FFB multiplier? Cause I'm all for that.
Unless you mean that the wheel profiles should get adjustments to them selves to accommodate the specific wheels better?
I dont see why that wouldnt happen when the AC physics/FFB gets fine tuned over time.

 

Kunos is making the best FFB in the business, period !

A real car feels pretty light at the steering wheel ( Power steering ) but you can feel the details of the road just fine. Kunos has got it very good and realistic with this IMO.

IMO it's awesome and every car feels different and not the same in every car like in other sims.

Driving the F40 ( Or any other "non power steering" cars ) for example, feels much heavier than if you're driving a car with power steering.

A slight clipping in corners is normal as long as it isn't constantly showing red in the pedal App.

Kunos has wisely avoided car specific FFB and the reason is probably because they want the cars to actually feel different from each other.

IMO -The global FFB settings is working great and I'm loving every bit of it.

 

Sure the effects is far and beyond any other sim I have played...But you need muscles to for example exit a drift. and there is more than one place where the FF is generaly too strong. and if you dum the settings down it don't feel that great anymore...

 

Maybe it's time to book a session at the local workout center

For drifting I just set the drift parameter on +1 on my CSW and it works superbly

 

I'm pretty beef guy. Probably the difference is in the wheels, I got logitech, you got money.

 

So no actual info, or even slightest idea what I'm talking about...

Next!

 

Same problem here.
With wheel settings on my signature , i have strong and good FFB with great control and feedback from tarmac and physics BUT , when oversteering , you need to apply huge force in order to return quickly the wheel to center position.

When i lower FFB , this force is much lower but i loose information and feeling.

I simply cannot find a perfect combination between those situations.

Any suggestions?

 

Sure ! How much you want ?

I used the GT3 RS V2 before ( Still have it ! ) and it is still pretty good but the CSW is just about the same feel as my real car.

 

Just buy a Fanatec CSW and a couple of rims and everything will start to make sense

 

I think there is a "Min. force" setting coming for AC too. Pretty sure I've seen Aris speaking about it. Also it would be great if we would have an option to set gain separately for every car. Not a big thing for Fanatec users (like me) because its easy to change the strenght of FFB from the wheel but would be a lot easier for others.

 

Yeah T500 not having profiler in driver side is annoing, depending on game obviously.
The car spesific gain would make life little easier, and having more indepth FFB parameters in the controller file would help fine tune it per wheel.
Obviously that kind of piddling isnt for everyone.

I am not unhappy with the FFB in AC, I think its great. All I wish is that I would get to use more torque out of the wheel before clipping starts to happen.

 

You need a wheel that can produce more torque then.....or if you really want the wheel to produce more torque before clipping then you will have to find profiler settings that give a more saturated non-linear FFB response, but this will bring other issues with it.

 

I know, and I know.

I've been testing rF2 FFB alot lately since it has quite extensive parameters that can be adjusted.
The amount of torque that this wheel can produce (T500RS 1.38kg * 0.45m = 6.0Nm, Overall Strenght set at 60%, anything after that doesnt effect the maximum torque.) is not the problem, rF2, GameStockCar2013, rF1, allows quite more power to be used before any kind of clipping becomes an issue, than AC.

I know alot of this has to do with cars that have potential power steering in AC, and how they have been modeled might be the answer, I dont know, but even with power steering, the steering is too light in many of them with the gain set to the borderline of clipping.
What I do know is that there is alot more that T500 can give before it becomes a hardware side issue (motor running out of power).

 

Actually something that I'd like to folks to test if its possible to do!?

The ingame Pedals app that shows the steering bar red if theres clipping, and then theres the FFB displayer app.
http://www.assettocorsa.net/forum/index.php?threads/fps-displayer.990/

Which is actually correct, cause they dont match in all occations?

 

That's because it's a frame rate displayer and nothing to do with FFB.

 

Oops wrong link...

http://www.assettocorsa.net/forum/index.php?threads/ffb-graph-my-first-app.319/

FFB displayer versus Pedals app, which one is actually correct, cause they dont match in all occasions?

PS. After some testing I think the Pedals app is not sensitive enough, you can actually feel lack of feedback before it starts to show clipping. I know that devs have tested this FFB Displayer app them selves, would be nice to know is it just the way they have been made that makes the difference (encrypted data?), or is the Pedals app actually giving false info?