GT2/3 lap times (AC vs RL), Online leagues

I was wondering the other day, that if I'm starting to be fast enough for some online racing, but I don't have any clue how fast should I be, to get good battle with others. I'm not saying, that I can't race if I can't win, but I certainly don't want to be last So can you give me some examples, how fast others are going? What would be the best place to start?

And...what cars and tracks are available in AC, what you can race in real life (GT2/GT3)? How does lap times compare (qualify/race)?

 

You can get an idea at: http://www.radiators-champ.com/RSRLiveTiming/

But there was a reset few time ago, so it's actual a little bit empty. But you can also check archived times.

 

Yes, I'm there also, but there is always one or few "super laps", and others are much slower. Not always thou. Here is few of my times:


RANK#2- Red Bull Ring GP- Nissan GT-R NISMO- 1:40.674 (+0:00.160)

RANK#5- Red Bull Ring GP- Ferrari FXX K- 1:25.376 (+0:00.390)

RANK#5- Monza- Lamborghini Huracan GT3- 1:49.088 (+0:01.689)

 

If you can keep your car pointed the correct direction for most of the race you will finish in the top half of the field more often than not. Join some lobbies and have some fun, just stay on your toes at all times, here is what happened to me when I let my guard down:

 

i think the most important is to drive constant laps, a good basic to race others, doesnt matter that you have good laptimes, in real life guys that start in pole position loose their place to even or make mistakes.... i started to drive online when i noticed my times are even after 10 laps in the same range , and talk about 0.5 sec difference max....after 10 laps you will see that laptimes "are" slower to tyre wear etc... at rsr live timing i end mostly in the top 50 , some tracks or cars top 100, so for me thats more than enough to have fun and to race, and to try different setups, my sim rig is crappy has hell and still manage good times

 

I have heard this before...and this was one reason, I never liked to race online with Gran Turismo 6. Tried few times, but there was always some idiots ruin the fun out of it. Is there good clean lobbies for novices, who just want's to race, and how do I join them?

And to my other question. I found this blancpain-site. Are these times comparable to AC lap times, and what settings you need to use to get best accuracy:

http://www.blancpain-gt-series.com/..._id=6&filter_meeting_id=64&filter_race_id=458

 

I am banned from the ALOOG servers (don't ask LOL) but from I hear they have some of the cleanest public lobby racing with many of the guys that you see posting in these forums taking part. SRS (sim racing system) is a service that you have to sign up for and provides scheduled races with a rating system. Marty's servers are rule a an iron fist and quick boot key when he is online in them.
And luck of the draw plays into it also; sometimes you are the windshield, sometimes you are the bug. Go have fun.

 

Just looked into one big Finnish league practise server stats with GT3's @ Mugello and the fastest guys have done 1.46.0xx but those guys are really quick. I mean REALLY quick. You should be fine with constant 1.48 - 1.50 hotlap pace for that combo I believe.

Edit: What I actually wanted to say was that don't worry about your pace, there are always people miles faster than you and me. Much more important is to focus for clean and fair racing.

 

Ok, have to try that So, all optimum settings, and constantly between 1:48-1:50 is good? Mugello is just the track I hate...can't drive it at all

 

Yup. That kind of pace should be more than enough for nice races.

 

Btw, what are optimum settings for hotlapping? I have used 29°C and mid clear.

 

That depends of the track but default optimum values has always been 26C, clear, 12:00.

Lower temperature is better for engine power but you may have issues with the tyre temperatures. Higher temperature is the opposite of course.

 

I'd say: As long as you can fulfill the 107% rule which says you can be 7% slower than the leader and you are able to race cleanly there's no point in not participating.

 

If you can do a 1:49.xxx at Monza with a GT3 I'd say you're wasting time if you're waiting to be faster to join a league. If you can keep that pace with consistency and are able to race cleanly there's no reason not to start league racing.

 

Just curious, is that a typo? Because 1m40 around RBR in a GT3 car is quite slow. 1m30 would seem more like it.

 

Just click on his link?

 

Woops I didn't see it was a link. But I made another mistake anyway - I thought he meant the GT-R GT3 but it seems his lap time is in the road car.

 

No racing for me yet. I can't get even one lap under 1:50 at Mugello. That track seems to be very hard, and I always "melt" my rear tyres at the end of middle section. My times are not where they should be, except maybe on Monza. And Huracan seems to be the only GT3 car I can drive. I guess quite a lot of this gap can be explained because of car adjustment, which I can't do properly. For example camber angles. I try to adjust those by looking a tyre temperatures, but somehow inner temperature seems to be always higher. Then I get to the point, where I really notice that I lose lateral grip, but why won't it get better on any setting before that. Downforce is another pain in the butt. Should I use more or less wing. On Monza I have zero wings in my Huracan settings. I have also soften some rear springs and ARB, to get more grip to the rear wheels. So my driving school continues, and I need to start experiment more with adjustments.

 

The pace isn't that important to have fun in MP, the most important things are if you are consistent, if your moves are predictable (I've already been in situations when I was alongside under braking and dude just went back to racing line like I wasn't there), and most important is how do you deal with close driving to others.

If you don't feel too confident driving with others around you, you can start with Nords BTG sessions and ask someone to go for a lap with you and try to stay close enough to have time to react and not crash into him.

Minorating is great tool, but to really use it you have to be AB driver and use AB only servers (*cough* like ALOOG1, or other ALOOG servers if you are into GT's *cough* shameless plug sorry). Of course accidents will still happen but it's not the same as on any open public server.
Marty servers are also good (especially if you are in Australia).
SRS, I did some races when it was in beta and they were mostly OK but there were also some wtf T1 situations. Since they came out of beta I did 2 races I think and they were OK.

That's what I think / my 0.02$. Have fun.

 

Dude, it sounds like you're doing more harm than good with your setups.
If you're trying to adjust camber to get equal temperatures between the inside and the outside you'll lose a ton of grip. The inside is always gonna have higher temps. I suggest not to fiddle too much with alignment until you know exactly what you're doing (I still don't).
Also, I've never driven the Huracan, so I can't say for sure, but I don't know any GT car that works on 0 rear wing, even at Monza I believe that's too low.
Basically, before you fiddle with setups, drive on the stock setup until you get a consistent good-ish time, then fiddle with one setting at a time and see if it improves your times and the feel of the car. If it doesn't, go back to where you were.
Mugello can be tricky on tyre temperatures. If you're overheating your tyres, start by using a harder compound. A medium tyre on the optimal temp range is better than a soft that's overheating.
If the Huracan is the only car you can drive, there's no problem with that. Usually front engine cars are better for begginers, but it may not be your case. Anyway, it's better to be good on a single car than to be bad in all of them.