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Setup: Ferrari F138@Monza?

Discussion in 'Chit Chat Room' started by Rex, Jul 26, 2016.

  1. Rex

    Rex Racer

    Anyone care to share a good setup for this combo, please? It's the combo for special event Tunnel Vision. I got bronze with default but it feels Gold is in the setup... and this car, of course, has so many options.
     

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  3. Berniyh

    Berniyh Alien

    I took a look at this challenge and it seems to be a tough one, at least in the default setup. With the amazing rear stability of the F138, I was however able to turn the rear wing down to 3 (front balanced to something like 8 or 9, iirc) and that took me close to silver (around 1:26.5 if I hadn't made a mistake in Parabolica).
    The rest being pretty much standard on soft tyres.

    For a 1:24, I think more tweaks are necessary, though.
    While it can happen very fast in these cars that you gain 1:24, I think that it's close to impossible without significant changes to the setup.
    Does make sense, though as the default setup is obviously adapted to high-downforce tracks, which Monza clearly isn't.

    Also, the "normal" start into the challenge is totally inappropriate in this case. You definitely need to start from the pits and do a very conservative outlap.
    And keep in mind that on the straight you can use the KERS twice, so make sure you use it up before crossing the line (thus starting the hotlap).
     
  4. Rex

    Rex Racer

    I'll try the wing settings. Good tip about using the Kers before the hotlap.
     
  5. Vassilis

    Vassilis Gamer

  6. Rex

    Rex Racer

    I don't understand, just tried now. I am +4s from my best time that I did a few days ago, with my old setup. It's like it's a different game... I don't understand what the hell happened.
     
  7. Pingus

    Pingus Simracer

    With a decent setup (vs default), you can improve your best time by about 4 seconds, which is a huge amount of time. Especially in a F1 car, on Monza. It turns the game into a flight simulator, kinda.
     
  8. Trezoitao38

    Trezoitao38 Simracer

    Using a different setup I made a lap 4 seconds faster on Spa.

    The default setup is good to learn how to drive, but its not fast.
     
  9. Vassilis

    Vassilis Gamer

    With the setup from race department I eventually did a 26.5. Got bronze right away and then I tried hard to get as close to silver as possible.
     
  10. Rex

    Rex Racer

    @Vassilis I wanted to ask you, why did you set up different values for the wings, how does it work if you do that? It is because of Parabolica?
     
  11. Vassilis

    Vassilis Gamer

    It's not my setup. I guess because Monza is a clockwise track, it helps having the right flap higher. I have no idea what the theory is behind it though. By the way, I did a 26.1 yesterday. Someone better can easily get silver.
     
  12. slopps

    slopps Simracer

    decided to reboot this thread - 26's are very slow, forget that.
    are there any aliens on here willing to share their 1.22's setup?
    Or can anyone help point out where i'm going wrong with mine?
    I can do mid 1.24's in quali - not much slower in the race really.
    But some of the guys in quali are doing high 1.22's - so i'm doing something fundamentally wrong with the setup. can anyone help?

    EDIT: someones posted a 1.22.7 setup in race department....will give that a go now and report....


    [INTERNAL_GEAR_2]
    VALUE=1
    [INTERNAL_GEAR_3]
    VALUE=6
    [INTERNAL_GEAR_4]
    VALUE=5
    [INTERNAL_GEAR_5]
    VALUE=6
    [INTERNAL_GEAR_6]
    VALUE=6
    [INTERNAL_GEAR_7]
    VALUE=10
    [INTERNAL_GEAR_8]
    VALUE=5
    [FINAL_RATIO]
    VALUE=5

    [TYRES]
    VALUE=0
    [PRESSURE_LF]
    VALUE=17

    [PRESSURE_RF]
    VALUE=17

    [PRESSURE_LR]
    VALUE=17

    [PRESSURE_RR]
    VALUE=17


    [FUEL]
    VALUE=18

    [ARB_FRONT]
    VALUE=8

    [ARB_REAR]
    VALUE=3

    [SPRING_RATE_LF]
    VALUE=2

    [ROD_LENGTH_LF]
    VALUE=30

    [SPRING_RATE_RF]
    VALUE=2

    [ROD_LENGTH_RF]
    VALUE=30

    [SPRING_RATE_LR]
    VALUE=4

    [ROD_LENGTH_LR]
    VALUE=50

    [SPRING_RATE_RR]
    VALUE=4

    [ROD_LENGTH_RR]
    VALUE=50

    [SPRING_RATE_HF]
    VALUE=5

    [SPRING_RATE_HR]
    VALUE=2


    [WING_1]
    VALUE=12

    [WING_2]
    VALUE=12

    [WING_3]
    VALUE=3


    [CAMBER_LF]
    VALUE=-29

    [TOE_OUT_LF]
    VALUE=35

    [CAMBER_RF]
    VALUE=-29

    [TOE_OUT_RF]
    VALUE=35

    [CAMBER_LR]
    VALUE=-24

    [TOE_OUT_LR]
    VALUE=-45

    [CAMBER_RR]
    VALUE=-24

    [TOE_OUT_RR]
    VALUE=-45


    [DAMP_FAST_BUMP_LF]
    VALUE=5

    [DAMP_BUMP_LF]
    VALUE=6

    [DAMP_FAST_REBOUND_LF]
    VALUE=8

    [DAMP_REBOUND_LF]
    VALUE=15

    [DAMP_FAST_BUMP_RF]
    VALUE=5

    [DAMP_BUMP_RF]
    VALUE=6

    [DAMP_FAST_REBOUND_RF]
    VALUE=8

    [DAMP_REBOUND_RF]
    VALUE=15

    [DAMP_FAST_BUMP_LR]
    VALUE=6

    [DAMP_BUMP_LR]
    VALUE=21

    [DAMP_FAST_REBOUND_LR]
    VALUE=9

    [DAMP_REBOUND_LR]
    VALUE=24

    [DAMP_FAST_BUMP_RR]
    VALUE=6

    [DAMP_BUMP_RR]
    VALUE=21

    [DAMP_FAST_REBOUND_RR]
    VALUE=9

    [DAMP_REBOUND_RR]
    VALUE=24


    [FRONT_BIAS]
    VALUE=57


    [DAMP_FAST_BUMP_HF]
    VALUE=10

    [DAMP_BUMP_HF]
    VALUE=19

    [DAMP_FAST_REBOUND_HF]
    VALUE=18

    [DAMP_REBOUND_HF]
    VALUE=24

    [DAMP_FAST_BUMP_HR]
    VALUE=7

    [DAMP_BUMP_HR]
    VALUE=20

    [DAMP_FAST_REBOUND_HR]
    VALUE=14

    [DAMP_REBOUND_HR]
    VALUE=21


    [BUMP_STOP_RATE_LF]
    VALUE=150

    [PACKER_RANGE_LF]
    VALUE=50

    [BUMP_STOP_RATE_RF]
    VALUE=150

    [PACKER_RANGE_RF]
    VALUE=50

    [BUMP_STOP_RATE_LR]
    VALUE=150

    [PACKER_RANGE_LR]
    VALUE=119

    [BUMP_STOP_RATE_RR]
    VALUE=150

    [PACKER_RANGE_RR]
    VALUE=119


    [CAR]
    MODEL=ks_ferrari_f138
     
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  13. magzire

    magzire Alien

    12/3 on the wing is way to low. try 14/9 and ride height 15/30. I manage a 1:22:700
     
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  14. slopps

    slopps Simracer

    i you 'pyscho333' on race department? lol
    any chance you could post a replay of that, maybe i'm not cutting the chicanes anywhere near enough. i'll go back in and try again. i'm down to a 24.1 now with that 1.22.7 race department setup.
     
  15. magzire

    magzire Alien

    Nope, but I didn't record it. Suppose I could do it again. Also track temp was 14oC.
     
  16. slopps

    slopps Simracer

    140 or 14???
    i've just set it on 20, optimum grip. i'm down to a 1.23.9 but definitely 3 tenths more in there so 1.23.6.
    i used that setup you gave and put more wing but don't see how i can get into 1.22's unless i learn how to cut the chicanes perfectly. replay would be helpful to see what you're doing compared to me.
    and confirm track temperature please, maybe that makes the difference lol.
    By the end of the hotlap all 4 tyres are burnt, like 110+ degrees each.
     
  17. PhilS13

    PhilS13 Alien

    Air temp is what matters.

    the 1.22s are all 10°C

    for the challenge @ 28°C of course it is hard to go below 1.24 but it's doable. you need something like 14-8 wings and lower the car at least 15 mm all around.
     
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  18. magzire

    magzire Alien

    14 Celsius :)
     
  19. magzire

    magzire Alien

    uploading. even made a balls of t2 and still get 22's
     
  20. magzire

    magzire Alien

     
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  21. slopps

    slopps Simracer

    ok well i just did a 23.044 when i set track temperature to 14 degrees, ambient 10..... so.....
    my point is those guys in the server online were doing high 22's with 24 degrees track temp lol.....
     

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