Tyre wear vs driving style

First of all, this is not a rant or a complaint. Just a question. I have been enjoying AC for about 1000 hours so far

Now I have just been wondering about that tyre heating, wear and driving style affect on those. Which is non existent imo at the moment. On a 30 lap race(track dependant ofcourse), you can push like crazy for that entire race, and there is no affect on tyre wear (or heating). I was looking forward to this latest update, and hoping that there would be a model that would make you think how you can manage those 30 laps without wearing your tyres out, or simply overheating them and having to take it easy for a while to prevent that. That would be a great add to this game, would create different strategies for races etc. Yes they are now a bit easier to get into operational temperature, but overheating is still pretty much impossible anywhere under 26C anyway.

So now I would like to ask you devs, is this feature something you have been planning to implement, or is it there, but just so mild that it cannot be seen?

I have some real life racing experience too, and with what I have driven in real life, it is pretty easy to overheat your tyres even in low temperatures by sliding or understeering the car all the time. Or if not overheat, atleast you can wear them pretty quickly with sloppy driving.

Lastly, thank you Kunos for making this game, and making retirement from real racing much easier for me...

Edit: Forgot to mention, I'm speaking of GT cars here...

 

nice to see you posting on the forums
kind of unrelated but:
have you looked into road temp not affecting tyre temp or performance? im not sure if it ever worked or if it broke around v1.3, but id expect the whole model would come alive a bit more if tyres were influenced by a hot/cold road rather than just ambient temp (and of course if you do a long race or accelerate time progression, youd actually notice the track changing temperature over the course of the day (single player at least)
https://www.assettocorsa.net/forum/index.php?threads/road-temperature.28251/
same in mp or sp

 

is it just a problem with how certain tyre versions communicate with the app? I ask because with mini stats plus app some v6 tyre temps seem to behave normally (as shown in the app) but a lot of v5 tyres sit at 40-50-60c using same app

 

Thank you for quick answer, really appreciate it.
Yes I do have tyre wear etc all on. Been doing most my online racing in RD club at the moment, so using those settings for testing/training also.

For you mentioning that laptimes will suffer a bit, was just the reason I wrote the question. That influence is way too small I think, I have rather soft driving style, but even with really pounding and skidding those tyres there really is next to no affect (well maybe few tenths). And the end result in tyre wear also is nowhere to be seen. This was just my opinion, and I have a strong feel I'm not alone with my opinion. Ofcourse if you start really drifting the car it maybe can be seen, but thats not the fastest way around a track

 

We should take the information from Aris to make some practice runs and document the results of grain, blister, temp with the telemetry app he mentioned.

 

If you want to see the live values of tyre wear while driving, then use the tyre debug app. And maybe the other apps recommend by Aris in his post. For that, go to C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\assettocorsa\system\cfg and open the file assetto_corsa.ini. Now change ENABLE_DEV_APPS=0 to 1. Then you can load the track and extra apps will appear.
Also in the game assists, use Pro settings, just in case.

 

Well, in RD , there is 0.95 grip which improves and also fuel consumption, making car lighter.
As such maybe the loss of tyre grip is make you slower but at the same time , track grip + less weight makes you almost equally faster = almost identical times.

Do same test offline.

P.S. Also you are an alien (still remember how you performed with Ferrari GT2), so you can also twist game's laws...

 

Nice to see a friendly face here

And you can believe I have done all the testing in the world for what I can think of(on and offline). And I know that with car getting lighter it becomes faster.
My point kind of was that in real life you really have to manage those tyres, but in this sim at the moment you can pretty much go flat out all the time.
It would be nice if you really had to worry about tyre wear and heating while in race, and adapt your speed according how long stint you're planning etc.
At the moment you know pretty exactly how long your mediums will last, no matter how fast you drive them. Hope this clarified my thoughts a bit...

 

Since you mentioned fine tuning in holidays, that means also that all cars will get the V6 tyre model? If yes is there any time schedule?

 

Thanks!!! Καλή τύχη!!!

 

I'm curious, when lowering the damage to say 75%, will this affect damage done to tyres? Wouldnt it be better if it was seperated?

I'm asking because small impacts made in door to door racing can often cause severe damage to a car, killing its downforce or anything else, so I prefer running a server with the damage done lowered slightly but I do not want to alter tyre wear at all...

 

Thank you Aristotelis... really much appreciated.

And I know those tyre's have gotten far in real life. And especially as old superbike driver, there was allready few years back differences between different brands of tyres how they responded to punishment There also were times when we had to choose softer compounds just because track was too hot, harder ones overheated beyond their operational temps

I also know you never can please all of the audience, and realise that changes to easier destruction of tyres really can get you some negative feedback....
So makes me wonder if the're could be a option in game which would be sim mode? Which would implement more realistic overheating etc. Then it would serve enthusiasts as well as casual gamers...

 

Would be cool an alternative setting for car damage, which could either reduce or turn off the car body/mechanical damage, while keeping tyre wear and tyre damage on. For example a tick box that said, near the mechanical damage % slider, 'combine with tyre damage'; or a slider like there is for tyre wear, but also for tyre damage. This last option, the slider, would allow for more fine tuning.

 

I belive you when you say that those modern tyres will last incredibly well. But also I belive that you somehow need to watch those tyres. If you drive fast on the grip vs. fast sliding and throwing car all over the Place, then there must be a difference how long your tyres last. At the moment there's not or it's really minor difference.

 

@Aristotelis talking about tyres .. are there any plans to implement tyres for 72D .. either Firestones or older Goodyears? I understand the practical reasons for using 312T tyres and I`m respecting it. I`m asking just cause it causes BOP issues with these two cars .. as 72Ds suspension design and weight ballance shouldn`t be able to properly handle harder 312T Goodyear tyres (getting them up to good temps).
That causing understeer would ballance the performance of those cars .. but makes 72D less enjoyable, or older softer Firestone/Goodyear tyres would slower 72D a bit while maintaining all the fun it provides.
... don`t forget to rest on holidays ... keep up with good work

EDIT: could that be the reason for people having feeling that 72D is too good, too planted .. having more modern tyres while not having the negative affect of older suspension 72D had with them?