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Is FOV only half the equation?

Discussion in 'ACC General Discussions' started by Skyflexion, Nov 30, 2018.

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  1. McGraw

    McGraw Racer

    50 deg on a 40” 60cm away is good for me.
     
    McGraw, Sep 24, 2019
    #21
  2. LeiF

    LeiF Alien

    Probably as you say just too much change at once for the brain! If the fov really is calculated correctly and the corners didn’t look right then that is because you have now learned a distorted version of the tracks.

    When I first went from arcade style fov to correct fov about 4 years ago I had to re learn EVERY corner. But very quickly I was faster, more consistent and hitting apexes like a beast. (Not in GT3 tho I am still rubbish in these :D )
     
    LeiF, Sep 25, 2019
    #22
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  3. Coanda

    Coanda Alien

    The brain has been distorted for a while now.. baby steps.. :D
     
    Coanda, Sep 25, 2019
    #23
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  4. fsuarez79

    fsuarez79 Simracer

    Baby steps is actually how I got from 54 to my current 42, which I have to say is my happy place now.
    Reduce it by 2 degrees and do a couple of races like that and keep going until you find the sweet spot.
     
    fsuarez79, Sep 25, 2019
    #24
  5. Coanda

    Coanda Alien

    I tried going from 55 to 50. It was ok.. I tried 35 again, nah not ready yet.. :)
     
    Coanda, Sep 25, 2019
    #25
  6. fsuarez79

    fsuarez79 Simracer

    I have a similar setting as yours in terms of tv size and distance and I remember my recommended FOV was also something like 32.
    There's no way I'll get there, I just lose too much visibility and it feels and looks totally weird but I'm liking 42 much better than the +50 I used for years.
     
    fsuarez79, Sep 25, 2019
    #26
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  7. LeDude83

    LeDude83 Alien

    Once I found out about this whole FOV thing, I changed from some huge default value to the correct one and it was love at first sight. Had a pretty small screen back then so I used hood cam to not only see cockpit.

    Then with a reasonably large screen (34" 21:9) I started using cockpit view with the cam shifted forwards...dashcam style.

    Now with TrackHat, I ditched the dashcam style and use the correct camera position. If something obstructs my view, I just move my head and look past. It's perfect.

    My FOV is 28.
     
    LeDude83, Sep 25, 2019
    #27
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  8. Ace Pumpkin

    Ace Pumpkin Alien

    Setting up the right FOV is the most important thing on a pancake view.

    Full stop.

    Ignore it, and be slow.

    Adjust it and fight your perception...

    Good luck!

    Have fun.
     
    Ace Pumpkin, Sep 25, 2019
    #28
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  9. tjr

    tjr Hardcore Simmer

    I fought it at first as well, but now I'm a total advocate of getting this right. I'm at 30 degrees on a 28" monitor. Felt wrong at first, but now it's so right.
     
    tjr, Sep 25, 2019
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  10. Cote Dazur

    Cote Dazur Alien

    Just to add to the conversation, when setting FOV on single screen, one idea that might help is to forget about the in game car cockpit, your cockpit is now your wheel and probably some android tablet for a dash and the screen is your windscreen. With proper FOV you will not see much of the inside of the cars, so you might as well forget it and enjoy a realistic view taking full advantage of the total screen/windscreen to see outside in front of you.
    Now that I have VR, it is the only way I can tolerate playing in 2d, if really have to.
     
    Cote Dazur, Sep 26, 2019
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  11. Coanda

    Coanda Alien

    After a lot of practice laps I have now gone down to the correct 36 deg FOV. Once the brain excepted it and the hands & feet made the necessary adjustments it really starts to make sense. In the beginning I lost a lot of lap time and missed a few corners every lap however I have managed to claw most of the lap time back and cut out the mistakes. I might be a touch slower for now however I really like it and will stick with it as I know it will be the right decision in the long run.. :cool:

    converted...
     
    Coanda, Sep 27, 2019
    #31
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  12. LATE4APEX

    LATE4APEX Alien

    A question, would you still use 36 deg FOV, on say a 23" single screen ?

    I started around 36, then gradually moved back up to 50 deg. on ACC, and for me, works better.
     
    LATE4APEX, Sep 27, 2019
    #32
  13. Coanda

    Coanda Alien

    Prob not... I just swapped over to my 42" so it's helped the cause..

    I was on 80 on my 27" :eek::D
     
    Coanda, Sep 27, 2019
    #33
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  14. sps_for_race

    sps_for_race Alien

    Only if your eyes are about 45cm close to the screen...
     
    sps_for_race, Sep 27, 2019
    #34
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  15. Maciej Malinowski

    Maciej Malinowski Hardcore Simmer

    LOL
    AC uses horizontal, 52deg is accurate here
     
    Maciej Malinowski, Sep 27, 2019
    #35
  16. Maciej Malinowski

    Maciej Malinowski Hardcore Simmer

    I also feel like adjusting seat is also right because getting our position inb the rig isnt the same as the car we drive in the sim, setting up position to have the wheel allined gives huge immersive benefit, but still FOV has to be kept correct
     
    Maciej Malinowski, Sep 27, 2019
    #36
  17. sps_for_race

    sps_for_race Alien

    @11:51


    vFOV
     
    Last edited: Sep 27, 2019
    sps_for_race, Sep 27, 2019
    #37
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  18. Coanda

    Coanda Alien

    I'm confused, everything I have read suggests AC & ACC use vFOV..
     
    Coanda, Sep 27, 2019
    #38
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  19. tjr

    tjr Hardcore Simmer

    ACC use vertical FOV.
     
    tjr, Sep 27, 2019
    #39
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  20. LeiF

    LeiF Alien

    Don’t be confused. It is vFOV in both AC and ACC.
    Glad to hear it is working out for you :)
     
    LeiF, Sep 27, 2019
    #40
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