Crew Chief Beta

It seems ACC doesn't like CrewChief

 

It is a shame as for me crew chief is a must have

 

Jim got annoyed by the shared memory (or lack thereof) and decided wasn't worth his time to spend more time debugging and finding work arounds until Kunos refined the behavior of the data output.

 

Hopefully this will be addressed in a future patch. It's a real shame as Crew Chief really brings a lot to ACC for me and to have it working perfectly would be great.

 

Jim really tried long time, but the interface is not as it should be from Kunos side.
Hope that now after the release of the DLC Kunos can find some time to sort it out.

 

guys, I'm going to deprecate and remove the ACC support from CC. I've spent too long trying to work around the limitations in the data and it's just not getting any better. The app works really well in other games but is pretty terrible in ACC, giving a false impression and making the rest of the CC team's work look bad.

There'll be a popup message explaining this in the next version of the app, and in the version after that I'll remove the UI option for ACC.

The main issue here is that CC is very sensitive to data synchronisation problems. The way CC is written, it expects a single 'frame' of game data to represent the game state at a single point in time. This isn't the case in ACC. The shared memory blocks (and maybe even the data fields within them) appear to update at different rates so the app sees at lot of stale data (e.g. the lap count increases by 1, but the data field containing the previous lap's lap time is still showing the old lap, or perhaps it's the other way round, it can vary). It's made much worse by the need to use data from the UDP broadcast stream to fill in the data missing from shared memory - race positions and stuff can also be badly out of sync. This is a real pain to work around and I've not been able to find an acceptable solution which doesn't require me to rip the app apart and put it back together. The differing behaviour of some data between online and offline races is also making things more difficult than they should be.

So all in all, CC in ACC is a bit rubbish. I don't have the time or the energy to fix it and I'm not convinced it can be fixed, given the way the ACC data behaves. This isn't intended to be a poke in the eye of the game developers - ACC has become a really solid racing sim and the devs have worked unbelievably hard to realise all these improvements. It's just that CC is a bit of a square peg trying to fit into the round hole of the ACC data streams

 

Sad news...

Nevertheless I well understand your issue !

A least thanks for trying.

 

It's a shame to read this ... I can't imagine playing ACC (and any other worthy title) without CC even in the state it is in today. I hope and wish that one day ACC and CC can be complicit in excellent competitions. I'll miss you Jim and Clare .

Of course, thank you very much for the effort!

 

Very very sad news.
So this means I never are allowed to update CC anymore...
Because the lame Kunos Crew Chief / Spotter cannot compete with Jim and Clare.

 

Hopefully the situation will improve at some point and your efforts won't have been entirely wasted...

 

Sad news indeed. Despite the problems I've quite enjoyed it in ACC. Far better than nothing or the built in spotter.

 

Paging @Aristotelis @Minolin @pankykapus ...

Surely something can be done in future updates to facilitate CC in ACC?

 

This saddens me.

Thanks for trying.

 

Sad news. Really sad news mate. I was about to ask to put the name "Midnight" in the app and now I've to read your comment @Jim Britton
So no update of CC anymore. Because I want to keep Jim and Clare in ACC. Even in this "not perfect" state I love it.

I really hope there wil be a solution anytime soon.

Thanks you so much

 

Kunos tried to support Jimmy, but maybe the interface cannot be overloaded to be compatible with CC.
So I would not expect that Kunos can help about this issue.

 

Dang! Just came here looking for answers. In a long race and CC keeps giving me a notice to clear my penalty even though I already have. :/ Guess I'll disable CC and turn up the dial on the boring guys in game.....hopefully Kunos can work on making the mesh better.

 

Cheers for the reply Panky. That’s a shame, but completely understandable.

 

Is there any thought to expanding the communications from the in-game engineer? If you are racing the AI and not on-line with teamspeak, a long race gets monotonous. It would be great to have more comms.

 

Link is bad