Who's at Fault? - Discussing Racecraft and Incidents

No accident but was close. Whos fault on situation if I would hit Aston because of this white McLaren? Really scary from my point of view, this is camera what I play.

 

White McLaren looked like it was stopped but at that position it probably wouldn't have been going all that fast anyway. He was probably letting you guys through. If he was stopped maybe it could be considered he's fault.

I think if an accident did happen it would probably have been your fault because you were the one trying to gain from the situation. I guess the lesson here is to have a peak before you go for the overtake at Monza T1 because of that pit exit. When I say it would have been your fault, I don't mean that you did anything wrong as such but you would have been the cause of the accident and could have seen it coming.

 

Long time reader, first time posting here.
Would be your fault as there was a yellow flag -> no overtaking allowed (and no one did lift btw...)

 

Yep. With the yellow flags, the least you could do is to get out of slipstream for a bit to seethe situation in front of you.
For me, it would be your fault, even if the Mac was doing something unpredictable.

 

Because racing against the AI is not even close to racing against real people. It will teach you a wrong behaviour.
And the SA rating is only relevant for online multiplayer.

 

Yep I heard yellow flag alert but usually it is really early so I expect something on chicane as in 99% situations actually, so simple calculated: there is crash on chicane, so I dont care about straight, I'll brake as normal and eventually overslow car to avoid contact in chicane. Completely didnt expect car stayed there. I think he was there long time, not stopped when he saw us to let us go(yellow flag alert was around start/meta line). I know simple rule - start brake little bit earlier after slipstream to not overshoot corner . A loooot of people forget about it.

 

@f1webberfan, just to be clear. I did not by any means, ment to imply you are an idiot driver. I obviously wouldn't know about that. It was meant as a general statement. Sorry if I offended you.

I just think that in general, if you farm your SA offline to a rating way above what it online (and thus really) is, and you then join servers with a SA requirement much higher than yours really is, chances are you become a nuisance to the drivers on that server, that specifically got on that server because of the high SA requirement.

This is ofcourse also why there are different categories and classes in real life racing.

 

So just off an online race which was a bit of a mess, got tangled up in a small incident at the start of the race, raced on with a damaged car....and then a racer decides to absolutely plough me and another car off the track.
Ignas Rudis I believe the name is, video attached, cheating like this to pass cars.
This guy should be banned....disgusting behaviour. We don't want cheaters like this in the game.

 

This is what you get wrong ... and right. IMHO.
SA doesn't refer only to how fast you can be. Yes, you will recover it more quickly if you are a faster driver, but that is it. It's about racecraft. And in my experience - that has nothing to do with speed - it helps but it is not the main thing.
For you I am nuisance to the faster drivers. Then get AROUND me, not through me. If you can't do it cleanly, if I defend cleanly, then why should I take penalty because of your actions?

This game has 1 category - GT3, basically. Saying that higher SA brings another "category" to the game is quite frankly - nonsense.
You are faster in Spa, I am faster on Barcelona, for example.
Does that make any difference?

 

I don't really get why you are getting so personal. I'm not saying you are a nuisance. My comments are not in anyway intended for you personally. I'm also perfectly fine with you disagreeing with me.

But I do think you are wrong about the rating system. In general having a higher SA (when not farmed offline) does equal a higher skill level.

 

It's all here for anyone who missed it
A lot of thought and effort went into it.
https://www.assettocorsa.net/forum/...acc-rating-system-part-ii-long-version.51975/
https://www.assettocorsa.net/forum/...tem-part-i-we-want-to-help-you-improve.50766/

 

I don't seem to get your point? My gripe is that people are generally unresponsible to others, therefore I have to make sure I don't suffer a lot , metrics side.

 

Thanks @Winston, I hadn't even read those threads. Very informative.

 

Where exactly I did tell otherwise?
Your point was that, at this point thinking you missed my point completely, that if you get lower SA you deserve it and you are not a worthy racer.
But OK.
We agree to disagree.

 

Arcording to the name and sense of the thread "Who's at Fault? - Discussing Racecraft and Incidents" your post is again meaningless.
This is not the right place for blaming and name calling.

And now I don't get your point.

 

My point was that it's not that anti-elitist to get some SA up by doing an offline races, because some ... driver ... drove you off the track 10 races in a row!

 

I don't believe I have mentioned anything like that. You seem to be making this up as you go.

Did you read the threads @Winston just shared already? If you have to harvest SA offline, because you got crashed into every single race for 10 races in a row, than this one is for you

 

That is all good and fine. But if I am hit like that, All this "advise" is going out of the window.:

Maybe now you understand why some SA farming is needed. Just hoping with more SA to get safer racing.

 

That has never happened to me on ACC. Are you saying this sort of crash happened to you 10 races in a row on high ranked servers? I'm sorry, but that doesn't seem plausible to me.

I never said a little farming isn't okay. Again you seem to be making things up as you go.

 

This proves that some farming is needed. I'm new to ACC, maybe a month or so, and have sa of 48. I spent the first weeks racing ai and moved online the past 2 weeks or so. But yeah, farming seems to be needed to avoid this sort of crap.